Niall Ferguson Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Only just clocked! I listened again and kissed my teeth again in appreciation at these gangsta SP days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northenlad Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Nah, i thought Avon kept it real. Stringer was next wannabe Clay 'sheeeeeittt' Davis, in my opinion. Would have supported String more in his approach if it didn't feel like he was only out for himself. Need to watch again tho, been a long time so maybe not remembering quite right, Wire >>> Soprano's though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_INIESTA_davies Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Nah, i thought Avon kept it real. Stringer was next wannabe Clay 'sheeeeeittt' Davis, in my opinion. Would have supported String more in his approach if it didn't feel like he was only out for himself. Need to watch again tho, been a long time so maybe not remembering quite right, Wire >>> Soprano's though. I can relate more to The Soprano's than The Wire but in terms of what the better show is then it has to be The Wire. / I'm just starting S4 EP1, but Avon got busted! Stringer had the last laugh. Stringer was next wannabe Clay 'sheeeeeittt' Davis, in my opinion. Would have supported String more in his approach if it didn't feel like he was only out for himself. Nah man no way! They had a dream of making money & they made it. Avon never wanted to leave the streets, for him it was all about reputation & he couldn't live with Marlo being the guy he always wanted to be - Feared!, who run the corners. Stringer was intellectual, I agree he probably used Avon to make his money and then tried to duck out the game but them two had a strong friendship at one point, both of them were pulling in the same direction and Stringer saw the bigger picture and wanted to bring Avon into a new world outside of crime because he loved him like a brother - he tried to make them clean money and got themselves to a healthy position. In the end their relationship broke down because they wanted two different things, you could see that in prison Stringer didn't want to hustle for his corners it was too much trouble and Avon probably felt let down, abandond with no empire to come out too which eventually he didn't because all his people were dead including his brother D'Angelo which again was Stringer trying to kill the connekt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northenlad Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Yeah, Stringer saw the bigger picture, and potentially his moves would have been beneficial for everyone in the long run, maybe even everyone beyond their own organisation (i.e. the the whole pj and beyond). Avon was stubborn, but I didn't feel going behind his back was the best way to go about addressing that, after all they were close. Stringer should have gone his separate way and Avon should have respected that decision. Obviously, this is a drama and accurate to real life because things don't play out ideally. That would've ruined the Wire though, it wouldn't have been the same show without that internal power struggle, plus it wouldn't have led to one of my favourite scenes when Omar and Mouzone take out Stringer in unison. I really need to watch this again as I think I'm having selective memory on how I remember it. Although I prefer Wire to Soprano's, I enjoyed both series, it's a close call for me though. It's sad watching the cycle with each season of the Wire, whilst the police are working at the top level criminals, it seems there was very little being done to stop the new stream coming through at the bottom end. Highlights the losing battle, can't remember the exact quote but one I liked was something about the war on drugs, and Herc makes some comment about wars ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Ferguson Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Brother Mouzone >>>>>>>>>> 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 You man forgetting that stringer got scoomed hard by clay davis, in the end he was there tryna get slim charles to pitch clay davis. Avon knew what kind of animal marlo was thats why he was so determined to get rid of him. Man like prop joe try treat him like a son and ended up getting shot at his dining table. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thizz Posted May 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Stringer was next wannabe Clay 'sheeeeeittt' Davis, in my opinion. Would have supported String more in his approach if it didn't feel like he was only out for himself. Nah man no way! They had a dream of making money & they made it. Avon never wanted to leave the streets, for him it was all about reputation & he couldn't live with Marlo being the guy he always wanted to be - Feared!, who run the corners. Stringer was intellectual, I agree he probably used Avon to make his money and then tried to duck out the game but them two had a strong friendship at one point, both of them were pulling in the same direction and Stringer saw the bigger picture and wanted to bring Avon into a new world outside of crime because he loved him like a brother - he tried to make them clean money and got themselves to a healthy position. In the end their relationship broke down because they wanted two different things, you could see that in prison Stringer didn't want to hustle for his corners it was too much trouble and Avon probably felt let down, abandond with no empire to come out too which eventually he didn't because all his people were dead including his brother D'Angelo which again was Stringer trying to kill the connekt. YOU'RE FORGETTING THAT STRINGER WENT BEHIND AVON'S BACK AND STARTED DEALING WITH PROP JOE. STRINGER WAS ALWAYS MOVING SNAKEY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRC Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Yeah, Stringer saw the bigger picture, and potentially his moves would have been beneficial for everyone in the long run, maybe even everyone beyond their own organisation (i.e. the the whole pj and beyond). Avon was stubborn, but I didn't feel going behind his back was the best way to go about addressing that, after all they were close. Stringer should have gone his separate way and Avon should have respected that decision. Obviously, this is a drama and accurate to real life because things don't play out ideally. That would've ruined the Wire though, it wouldn't have been the same show without that internal power struggle, plus it wouldn't have led to one of my favourite scenes when Omar and Mouzone take out Stringer in unison. I really need to watch this again as I think I'm having selective memory on how I remember it. Although I prefer Wire to Soprano's, I enjoyed both series, it's a close call for me though. It's sad watching the cycle with each season of the Wire, whilst the police are working at the top level criminals, it seems there was very little being done to stop the new stream coming through at the bottom end. Highlights the losing battle, can't remember the exact quote but one I liked was something about the war on drugs, and Herc makes some comment about wars ending. Was carver still - monologue was too sick Carver: We are an effective deterrent in the war on drugs when we are on the street. Herc: f*ck*ng motherf*ckers up, f*ck the paperwork. Collect bodies, split heads. Carver: Split 'em wide. Herc: The Western district way! Kima: You rogue motherf*ckers kill me. Fighting the war on drugs, one brutality case at a time... Carver: You can't even call this sh*t a war. Herc: Why not? Wars end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skenghis Khan Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 kima or dr melfi tho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpedeum Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Kima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Diskenth Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Nahhh Dr. Melfi had them heels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davicious X Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Why are people rating Stringer? Guy was a snake. Hows man gonna be banging D'Angelo's woman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thizz Posted January 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 RIP Prop Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 3 wee-bey 3 avon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 didnt even realise prop joes actor died. Â RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidge Weasle Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Hol tight slim charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidge Weasle Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 And pour your cup out for bodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARVELL Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 what..bodie is dead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidge Weasle Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 nah, i was fucked when i saw this, didnt realise the prop joe actor had died Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Somalian Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 I never clocked Omar was in sopranos to looking after jackie junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dom dom bullets Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 I never clocked Omar was in sopranos to looking after jackie junior The mafia had a price on his head so rollin with Omar was probably his best bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Somalian Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 they knew where he was all the time thats how that faggot managed to shoot him Ralph is the biggest snake in tv history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dom dom bullets Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 oh yeah the fat dude was gay too, probably Omar's butt pal so Omar told him where Jackie jr was at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Sopranos = More watchable i.e. I'll watch it and enjoy it over and over...but it's more like a soapWire = Better written, more subtle, but probably won't ever watch again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thizz Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 LOL @ not watching The Wire over and over. Â So much shit you never clock the first and even second and third time round. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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