Woolwich Beheading

[Nidge Weasle]

His voice is disgusting

[local]

I don't buy all this 'we need to protect our culture' crap., culture is an ever evolving thing, it changes all the time, British culture now is not the same as 100 years ago, which is not the same as 400 years ago. British culture now also includes many elements from the different Diaspora we have here, it's called evolution, trying to protect it is pointless.

 

granted it is changing a lot faster than it would have done 2/300 years ago, but so does technology etc, everything changes at a much faster rate now, it's the world we live.

 

how has the diaspora shaped our culture?

 

that is a bbc sponsored lie of multi culturism 

 

our popular culture is almost completely manipulated by mass media, this is an entirely separate issue

 

other than the pathetic food argument ('u wouldn't have ur curry without mass immigration!!') which is nonsense as the british were off raping chefs and stealing spices centuries back

 

or mass market music / film / tv  which all comes under the umbrella of the controlled media, which is certainly not shaped by any diaspora other than jewish, how has it shaped anything?

 

n however horribly leftist and stupidly pansily pathetic our society has become over the past 80 years, u do make a good point, that it is progressive

 

which is completely at odds to this imported ancient set-in-stone 'islamic' culture of the 3rd world

 

no?

[dom dom bullets]

depends on what islamic culture you're talking about, west Turkish being waaaay more modernised than Iranian for example

 

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Also, we can argue about the extent to which our culture has been influenced by immigrants, it's not important. The point I was makin is trying to protect it is idiotic. 

[Gambino]

Nothing idiotic about trying to protect your way of life at all. Been done throughout history.

[dom dom bullets]

yeah and how much has way of life changed throughout history? hmmmmmm?

[stacksbranning]

Has anyone else seen this .

Now im not one for conspiracy theories but bwoy !!!!!!

I think we might have a hoax on our hands

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDd9cwqoni8&feature=player_embedded

No

 

Why no ?

Seriously where the fuck is the blood .

Them two dons who got "shot by police ,where is the blood

[JGGB]

 

don't know how to embed. Been away from VIP too long

[stacksbranning]

Tbh if i was white i wouldn't like what is happening to england but hey this is the price you pay for fucking up most of the world . Im sure if you give us back everything stolen,all the artifcats in the various museums around england . Pay our  families for the forced and still  unpaid labour and pay our countries the money we deserve we will happily fuck off but that would be a problem wouldn't it !!!

Fact is england would be third world if it wasn't for everything that has been stolen from ethnic minorities

[local]

depends on what islamic culture you're talking about, west Turkish being waaaay more modernised than Iranian for example

 

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Also, we can argue about the extent to which our culture has been influenced by immigrants, it's not important. The point I was makin is trying to protect it is idiotic. 

 

it doesn't matter, we want no part of it

 

as for ur last comment, u can suck urself off

 

apart from the aforementioned media imposed liberal goals of fear of sexism, racism, homphobia etc and the gradual societal changes this has lead to, that the history books will shout on about, the basics of english culture has barely changed for the past century / longer than i will kno

 

our general values and morales, which are mostly remnants of christianity, which for the most part have been relatively adopted by the majority of non-islamic immigrants / were imported over during colonisation, have remained the same and are at odds with there's

[local]

Tbh if i was white i wouldn't like what is happening to england but hey this is the price you pay for f*cking up most of the world . Im sure if you give us back everything stolen,all the artifcats in the various museums around england . Pay our  families for the forced and still  unpaid labour and pay our countries the money we deserve we will happily f*ck off but that would be a problem wouldn't it !!!

Fact is england would be third world if it wasn't for everything that has been stolen from ethnic minorities

 

england would be a success story just like the rest of western and northern europe

 

colonial efforts are the result of economic success and wouldn't have been possible otherwise

 

ur not a bright person and have a 1 dimensional view of the world which u refuse to steer away from due to ur blinding ego

 

stop posting

[dom dom bullets]

Tbh if i was white i wouldn't like what is happening to england but hey this is the price you pay for f*cking up most of the world . Im sure if you give us back everything stolen,all the artifcats in the various museums around england . Pay our  families for the forced and still  unpaid labour and pay our countries the money we deserve we will happily f*ck off but that would be a problem wouldn't it !!!

Fact is england would be third world if it wasn't for everything that has been stolen from ethnic minorities

 fact is the whole world would be third world if none of the empires/dynasties didn't do what they did, it needed to happen to have the trade we do now (not saying it was always done in the best way).

[dom dom bullets]

depends on what islamic culture you're talking about, west Turkish being waaaay more modernised than Iranian for example

 

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Also, we can argue about the extent to which our culture has been influenced by immigrants, it's not important. The point I was makin is trying to protect it is idiotic. 

 

it doesn't matter, we want no part of it

 

as for ur last comment, u can suck urself off

 

apart from the aforementioned media imposed liberal goals of fear of sexism, racism, homphobia etc and the gradual societal changes this has lead to, that the history books will shout on about, the basics of english culture has barely changed for the past century

 

our general values and morales, which are mostly remnants of christianity, which for the most part have been relatively adopted by the majority of non-islamic immigrants / were imported over during colonisation, have remained the same and are at odds with there's

 

example: beheading/burning witches isn't vast change in culture to let's say 60 years ago? which in turn could be compared to now.

[local]

 

depends on what islamic culture you're talking about, west Turkish being waaaay more modernised than Iranian for example

 

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Also, we can argue about the extent to which our culture has been influenced by immigrants, it's not important. The point I was makin is trying to protect it is idiotic. 

 

it doesn't matter, we want no part of it

 

as for ur last comment, u can suck urself off

 

apart from the aforementioned media imposed liberal goals of fear of sexism, racism, homphobia etc and the gradual societal changes this has lead to, that the history books will shout on about, the basics of english culture has barely changed for the past century

 

our general values and morales, which are mostly remnants of christianity, which for the most part have been relatively adopted by the majority of non-islamic immigrants / were imported over during colonisation, have remained the same and are at odds with there's

 

example: beheading/burning witches isn't vast change in culture to let's say 60 years ago? which in turn could be compared to now.

 

what?

 

when were people burning witches mate?

 

how does what ur saying justify submitting my country to islamic ideology 

[dom dom bullets]

im saying compare that to culture 60 years ago, it's very different. In turn the culture 60 years ago is very different to now. People need to stop trying to protect something that is ever changing, it's like trying to push a wave back into the sea, why? People are f*cking scared of everything even their own shadow now a days, for what? We live in the safest time in history, embrace change don't be scared ffs (cos that's the reason people are being conservative with culture, they are scared), Let things take their natural course ffs, it's all good.

 

(and don't try to go the extreme route of 'this will be a muslim state soon', cos.........it won't)

[local]

what a stupid argument

 

compare the 15th century to the 20th

 

SEE

 

different init

 

point proven yh?

 

natural course yh? well then we'd stop mass immigration and prevent media monopolies from forming, nothing natural about the current forced state of western society 

 

the fact we stopped burning those believed to be witches centuries ago is not a good argument to invite those from countries that still practise such things

 

 

no point debating tbh u have ur own vested interests as a whatever generation immigrant

 

[dom dom bullets]

you were trying to say british culture has barely changed, that witch example was to show you how much it has, because that was a part of our culture. calm down

[local]

the fundamentals of culture ie morals, values and beliefs, hasn't changed in 2 generations, which is as far back a link i have to judge from

 

the fact western civilisation has advanced from the 1600s is irrelevant and a preposterous point to make

 

no1 claims all change is bad, but 'progression' is not necessarily beneficial, common sense

 

ur making stupid arguments and telling me my viewpoint is idiotic

[dom dom bullets]

didn't realise you said the past century, my bad.

 

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How much culture has changed is down to opinion really, if you are of the opinion that it has hardly changed with the influx of people so far. Why should people be scared it will change more? Why feel the need to protect it?

[local]

use ur head mate we dont need to go round in circles

 

this whole abstract culture talk only come about cos i was tryna say u lot should be defending the country same way as me

 

we're sayin the word too much it's losing meaning

 

the point is about the colonies, the bradfords, the rochdales, the lutons n the other working class areas in every single town n city silently being taken

 

they import an incompatible culture, an opposing way of life n displace the english

 

 

and their numbers will inevitably grow as they are already, a fact only accelerated by the lack of any assimilation regulation, meaning they are free to set up their own mini country - a colony if u will, retaining their way of life

 

whether it takes 200 years or not, they will become the majority, n is it not part of their religion to attempt to convert the non muslim population

 

tbh believe it or not, i dont really care too much, i've accepted england/ europe's fate and have made my contingency plans

 

but there's no point in not bein realistic

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Tbh if i was white i wouldn't like what is happening to england but hey this is the price you pay for f*cking up most of the world . Im sure if you give us back everything stolen,all the artifcats in the various museums around england . Pay our  families for the forced and still  unpaid labour and pay our countries the money we deserve we will happily f*ck off but that would be a problem wouldn't it !!!

Fact is england would be third world if it wasn't for everything that has been stolen from ethnic minorities

 fact is the whole world would be third world if none of the empires/dynasties didn't do what they did, it needed to happen to have the trade we do now (not saying it was always done in the best way).

 

Smh

 

[Tupac] That's what the white men wants you to believe [Tupac]

[Alejandro Sosa]

cant divulge this information just yet currently preparing my case ttkk

 

brb

im intrigued

 

will be patiently waiting bro

[Supermalt]

[Pro]

Tbh if i was white i wouldn't like what is happening to england but hey this is the price you pay for f*cking up most of the world . Im sure if you give us back everything stolen,all the artifcats in the various museums around england . Pay our  families for the forced and still  unpaid labour and pay our countries the money we deserve we will happily f*ck off but that would be a problem wouldn't it !!!

Fact is england would be third world if it wasn't for everything that has been stolen from ethnic minorities

 

england would be a success story just like the rest of western and northern europe

 

colonial efforts are the result of economic success and wouldn't have been possible otherwise

 

ur not a bright person and have a 1 dimensional view of the world which u refuse to steer away from due to ur blinding ego

 

stop posting

 

100% gas more like after plundering the new world

[local]

 

Tbh if i was white i wouldn't like what is happening to england but hey this is the price you pay for f*cking up most of the world . Im sure if you give us back everything stolen,all the artifcats in the various museums around england . Pay our  families for the forced and still  unpaid labour and pay our countries the money we deserve we will happily f*ck off but that would be a problem wouldn't it !!!

Fact is england would be third world if it wasn't for everything that has been stolen from ethnic minorities

 

england would be a success story just like the rest of western and northern europe

 

colonial efforts are the result of economic success and wouldn't have been possible otherwise

 

ur not a bright person and have a 1 dimensional view of the world which u refuse to steer away from due to ur blinding ego

 

stop posting

 

100% gas more like after plundering the new world

 

so expansionism is the result of expansionism?

[Pro]

 

Location, location and how the West was won

By Ian Morris Professor, Stanford University

Continue reading the main story

 

In the first five centuries AD, the Old World's great empires - from Rome in the West to Han China in the East - all came apart; but the political changes transformed geography once again. China recreated a unified empire in the 6th Century AD, while the West never did so.

For more than a millennium, until at least 1700, China was the richest, strongest, and most inventive place on earth, and the East pulled ahead of the West.

East Asian inventors came up with one breakthrough after another. By 1300 their ships could cross the oceans and their crude guns could shoot the people on the other side. But then, in the kind of paradox that fills human history, the East's breakthroughs changed the meaning of geography once again.

Western Europe - sticking out into the cold North Atlantic, far from the centres of action - had always been a backwater. But when Europeans learned of the East's ocean-going ships and guns, their location on the Atlantic abruptly became a huge geographical plus.Before people could cross the oceans, it had not mattered that Europe was twice as close as China to the vast, rich lands of the Americas. But now that people could cross the oceans, this became the most important geographical fact in the world.The Atlantic, 3,000 miles across, became a kind of Goldilocks Ocean, neither too big nor too small. It was just big enough that very different kinds of goods were produced around its shores in Europe, Africa, and America; and just small enough that the ships of Shakespeare's age could cross it quite easily.The Pacific, by contrast, was much too big. Following the prevailing tides and winds, it was an 8,000-mile trip from China to California - just about possible 500 years ago, but too far to make trade profitable.

Geography determined that it was western Europeans, rather than the 15th Century's finest sailors - the Chinese - who discovered, plundered, and colonised the Americas. Chinese sailors were just as daring as Spaniards; Chinese settlers just as intrepid as Britons; but Europeans, not Chinese, seized the Americas because Europeans only had to go half as far.

Europeans went on in the 17th Century to create a new market economy around the shores of the Atlantic, exploiting comparative advantages between continents. This forced European thinkers to confront new questions about how the winds and tides worked. They learned to measure and count in better ways, and cracked the codes of physics, chemistry, and biology.

As a result, Europe, not China, had a scientific revolution. Europeans, not Chinese, turned science's insights onto society itself in the 18th Century in what we now call the Enlightenment.