hiphop Jay Z - Magna Carta Holy Grail

[Kuffir]

Can't deny the complexity of the lyrics in that song though.

 

Mind blown.

Because it's Jay-Z guys will still deny it.

Meanwhile other rappers can get away with lyrics like "She got a big booty so I call her Big Booty"

 

lol again

 

and i do like that bar as well stil

 

maybe thats just because it reminds of dat slave chick in django tlkin bout they call it the biig house cause it's a big house or w/e

 

and 2chainz makes that minstrel music so it all connects

[Michel Kane]

I hear you still, feel similarly but not as strongly.

[Agony]

I hear what your saying Philly

Post Black album the 2nd R. Kelly collaboration and Kingdom Come didn't really spend too much time on rotation in my playlists and was a bit of a let down imo.

Personally I was feeling American Gangster, Blueprint 3, WTT and this album. Also he went it on some of the features since then like the Jay Electronica one I posted in here. None of those albums won't make into the 3 selected albums in his discography but they all had examples of why he is still that guy.

He has another classic in him but its understandable why he's not desperate to chase it because he has nothing else to prove which is why I see where you're coming from with the laziest/most talented comment.

Even though I mentioned that 2 Chainz bar I'll still listen to his tunes and others like him but I just disagree with the double standards on and off here sometimes when it comes to judging lyricism.

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Article is much ado about nothing

[Thizz]

If it was Nas everyone would be going nuts.

[Michel Kane]

Article is much ado about nothing

Really darg? Lol.

[JOHN DOE]

If it was Nas everyone would be going nuts.

Tru. But most people should know that jay is the entendre king

'I just landed in Rome nigga, all hail Caesars home nigga'

Quick one right there

[Michel Kane]

If it was Nas everyone would be going nuts.

Tru. But most people should know that jay is the entendre king

'I just landed in Rome nigga, all hail Caesars home nigga'

Quick one right there

Out of all the ones to pick, man picks the most basic, LOL.

[JOHN DOE]

What should I dig in through the lyrics and write essays like the one above

As I said 'quick one right there'

Most people would not have go it

I think I'm mad right now

[stacksbranning]

 

 

^^The realness

She has a few hit records that will keep her rotating for the rest of her career but when you look at her body of work what has she got realistically?!

She doesn't have that definitive album nor does she even have any particular great albums. I personally feel 4 was her best and that led with a vocal over a very old Major Lazer beat

she maay not have a lot of hits but the hits she does have stand out more than others, irreplaceable, single ladies, crazy in love,halo etc

 

 

plus i think its only fair we include the tunes she did with the rest of destiny's child

 

But they are not exactly good tunes though lol no lyricial content what so ever . Bitch repeating all the single ladies 3 times and singing oh ,oh oh ,ohhhhhhhhh oh oh

but u can say that for rihanna umbrella, ....a hit is a hit lol

 

halo isnt trying to capture the listener with lyrics, its trying to capture the listeners emotion,hence why its sung in that pitch

 

no

 

[Flojo]

Not buying that breakdown at all, I remember a similar one for Black Republican.

 

The difference between Nas and Jay is that Nas sits down and writes his rhymes whilst Jay writes his bars to the beat much more instinctively so for me it's obviously more plausible for someone like Nas to have that type of depth to his bars.

[Supermalt]

edit: nas wins imo in the last era of albums between them, talking subject matter, lyrics. with beats jay obvs

 

Jay Z

Kingdom Come (2006) 

American Gangster (2007)

The Blueprint 3 (2009)

Watch the Throne (with Kanye West) (2011)

Magna Carta... Holy Grail (2013)

 

Nas

Hip Hop Is Dead (2006)

Untitled (2008)

Distant Relatives (with Damian Marley) (2010)

Life Is Good (2012)

 

[Agony]

Me and Ty Ty is like Pablo and Popeye

Winding dirt roads on mopeds spilling Opus

Welcome to the magnum opus

The Magna Carta

The best-selling author Decoded

On the holiday playing "Strange Fruit"

If I'mma make it to a billi I can't take the same route

The line originates from the Billie Holiday song, “Strange Fruit.” This song provides a vivid description of lynching and how it was rampant in the south. Note Jay’s usage of “holiday” and “billi,” as those words play along with the reference to the song. Also note the homonym, route/root. In “Strange Fruit,” Holiday says these lines:

"Southern trees bear a strange fruit

Blood on the leaves and blood at the root"

The “holiday” in this line is most likely in reference to Independence day, the national holiday that also served as the release date for the album in which this song is featured on, Magna Carta… Holy Grail.

To take the same route would be the same as taking the same root, i.e. dying at the hands of discrimination. Also, it’s the continuation of the theme of Jay-Z expanding beyond what he has done in the past to accumulate wealth. In the beginning, he and Ty Ty sold drugs to make money. Then he used rap to gain wealth, then he expanded to be an author, and so on.

Taking another approach at this line, the “route” could be in reference to Triangular Trade, a trading system notorious for the bringing of many slaves to colonial North America. The ships docked at ports in Africa, such as the Ivory Coast, and then went along their route to the colonies. This ties back in with the overall interpretation of the song that was first noted in the beginning of the hook, that the ocean is symbolic in terms of enslavement, but is also looked at as a sign of freedom.

Another “same route” could be alcoholism (referring back to the theme of the song, water.) “Strange Fruit” singer Billie Holiday literally drank herself to death, as she was hospitalized and died from pulmonary edema and heart failure caused by cirrhosis of the liver on July 17, 1959. This cirrhosis of the liver was caused by her severe drinking problem.

Regardless of the form of death, if Jay wants to make it to a billi (short for a billion dollars, note the wordplay used, as Billie Holiday sung “Strange Fruit,) he can’t die, as his current net worth as of 2013 is $500,000,000. He still has a long way to go in order to double his net worth. Note that Jay uses a reference to lynching as a form of death. This is symbolic in the aspect of racism; that Jay can’t succumb to the racial discrimination that is still sadly exhibited by many in today’s society.

This line is possibly inspired by Kanye West’s sampling Nina Simone’s version of “Strange Fruit” in “Blood on the Leaves” and/or his usage of the lyrics in “New Slaves.”. However, Like most people in his generation, Jay grew up with songs like “Strange Fruit,” and was likely influenced by the original, given his background.

 

[Adotbiz]

Jay z MCHG Tour O2 priority tickets on sale

[Bruno Di Gradi]

jay took enough of my ps in the last 18months....new album doesnt justify my money again. Wont reach

[Benicio del Toney]

Did 527,000 1st week sales.

 

2nd highest of the year behind JT.

[The Infamous]

album is wack imo

 

no replay value

[Guest 90210]

oceans and picasso best tracks

[Supermalt]

album is wack imo

 

no replay value

 

j.cole BS has better replay value

[Fresh To Death]

album is meh

 

j cole best hip hop release this year

 

soon to be knocked by pusha

 

YEURGHH

[Adotbiz]

When is pusha's out?

[Guest 90210]

oceans track:

 

Chorus is about the time when slaves were taken from the Ivory Coast. Sailing lady(slaveships), Mercedes in a row(slaves in a row to get on board), Only white people wore white tuxedos, so Frank means that his skin dirts the tux. "Water drowned my family, water mixed my blood" Sick slaves were tossed out the ships to either drown or get eaten by sharks, therefore "This water knows it all". "Spill some champagne" to salute those who died in the ocean..

 

 

fuk me... bars...

[Fresh To Death]

self explanatory

[Fresh To Death]

When is pusha's out?

 

not sure

[Gordon Gekko]

Pusha was meant to be this month. Been pushed back till latter end of August