15 Year Old Girl Shot Dead In Hackney

[Yoshie]

You got guys saying serves him right throw away the key randomly bringing up scarface and putting their own spin on what's been published coming with all kinds of assumptions.. sounds like tory daily mail crap to me.

 

I assumed he had a loaded gun from when he shot someone. All I've read is a couple posts in this topic.

What's your take?

[local]

he's assuming (ironically) that he has a better understanding of what happened than the courts based on quotes (made by this lads mates) he's read (ironically) in a daily mail article

 

sounds a bit like boo hoo hoo to me

[JOHN DOE]

why is man waving a gun about thinkin hes scarface though

because he is 15

[Flat Eric]

imagine though

 

youre waving di pistor on some banter boy ting

 

and next thing your life and several others lives are ruined

 

in a flash

[JOHN DOE]

Of course as there was no intent to kill

Seems like it was an unfortunate accident, why send a 15 year old away for longer then he's lived

Unfortunate accident like he just found the gun on the floor, picked it up and it just happened to go off.

Don't be silly.

Put himself in a ridiculous situation by acting out a ridiculous series of events. He probably should be looking at manslaughter but who is really gonna sympathize with this kid if he gets slapped with murder.

the law is the law bro

without intent it's not murder

I weren't there i don't know what happened but based on the stories coming out it was accidental

[Yeshua]

BMT if i got in trouble for all the silly things i did as 15 year old boy.

 

Time can be the best teacher, he is going to regret what he done for the rest of his life either way, no need to give him murder on top of that.

[Guest freestacks]

 

why is man waving a gun about thinkin hes scarface though

because he is 15

 

[ag.]

imagine whats going thru that kids head right now tho. thinking i should have done this, or what if id done that what would be different

[Mame Biram Diouf]

At 15 you lot dont think you were normally functioning enough to know that waving around a gun in peoples faces wasnt a good idea and could result in someone dead?

 

Talking like hes 8 or 9

[Kompressor]

What relevance does that have?

 

If we left family members to enact punishment, it would be chaos.

 

Thats what the court is there for, to provide an element of objectiveness.

 

 

 

Solid answer tbh.

[seven]

 

why is man waving a gun about thinkin hes scarface though

because he is 15

 

 

doesnt make it acceptable though

 

epecially when it says people were tellin him to put it down

[Heero Yuy]

 

 

Of course as there was no intent to kill

Seems like it was an unfortunate accident, why send a 15 year old away for longer then he's lived

Unfortunate accident like he just found the gun on the floor, picked it up and it just happened to go off.

Don't be silly.

Put himself in a ridiculous situation by acting out a ridiculous series of events. He probably should be looking at manslaughter but who is really gonna sympathize with this kid if he gets slapped with murder.

the law is the law bro

without intent it's not murder

I weren't there i don't know what happened but based on the stories coming out it was accidental

 

 

From what various media outlets are running with it did seem accidental, apparently the person who shot the gun was the one who called 999.

 

But why do you have a gun on you, why is it loaded, how was it in a position to go off at somebody. The kid has put himself in a terrible position, you had a loaded gun, you took it out, you bared it infront of people = imo those are 3 individual actions/decisions that have led to a devastating conclusion. Bad personal decision do not equate to an unfortunate accident. Somebody drink driving or using their mobile at the wheel and killing pedestrians isn't an unfortunate accident, it's a series of bad choices/actions.

 

Like I said though it is more time manslaughter but the prosecution are gonna push this

[Frank.]

At 15 you lot dont think you were normally functioning enough to know that waving around a gun in peoples faces wasnt a good idea and could result in someone dead?

 

Talking like hes 8 or 9

[seven]

funniest thing man was probaly shouting a whole load of chiraq quoteables while he was waving it

 

"ye no lackin fam"

[Kompressor]

If he gets murder I'd be inclined to believe they are just making an example of him.

Manslaughter it what it appears to be but maybe there's more to the story than what we've been told publicly.

 

Just a sad situation.

[JOHN DOE]

 

 

 

Of course as there was no intent to kill

Seems like it was an unfortunate accident, why send a 15 year old away for longer then he's lived

Unfortunate accident like he just found the gun on the floor, picked it up and it just happened to go off.

Don't be silly.

Put himself in a ridiculous situation by acting out a ridiculous series of events. He probably should be looking at manslaughter but who is really gonna sympathize with this kid if he gets slapped with murder.

the law is the law bro

without intent it's not murder

I weren't there i don't know what happened but based on the stories coming out it was accidental

 

 

From what various media outlets are running with it did seem accidental, apparently the person who shot the gun was the one who called 999.

 

But why do you have a gun on you, why is it loaded, how was it in a position to go off at somebody. The kid has put himself in a terrible position, you had a loaded gun, you took it out, you bared it infront of people = imo those are 3 individual actions/decisions that have led to a devastating conclusion. Bad personal decision do not equate to an unfortunate accident 

 

Like I said though it is more time manslaughter but the prosecution are gonna push this

 

i hear you but its not 'more time manslaughter' its manslaughter not murder

 

doesnt matter how he got the gun or why in was in a position to go off as long as that gun didn't go off as a result of him wanting to end her life then its manslaughter 

 

/

 

ive been in a situation with  an idiot and a gun

 

when i was 16/17, one of my 'friends' had a gun (he was a gas man he werent about nothing but he liked to pretend so he had one for show) he took it out and pointed it at me in some jokey way whilst singing 'in east london we c*ck back'

 

i dont think it was loaded but looking back what a stupid thing to do when you're young you do stupid ,reckless things in fact  even big men can do what that fool done 

[JOHN DOE]

If he gets murder I'd be inclined to believe they are just making an example of him.

Manslaughter it what it appears to be but maybe there's more to the story than what we've been told publicly.

 

Just a sad situation.

true 

[Grafter]

At 15 you lot dont think you were normally functioning enough to know that waving around a gun in peoples faces wasnt a good idea and could result in someone dead?

Talking like hes 8 or 9

Me an mates never did that but we did do super dumb stuff an I certainly put my own life in danger due to immaturity an lack of awareness even beyond the age of 15

[Grafter]

What about that game chicken that used to be popular. That was so dumb but it was teenagers doin it

[Bruno Di Gradi]

i  possibly nearly killed my bredrin with a garden fork

 

was being dumb and tried to do a tennis serve with it right into him...garden fork flew off the handle...solid iron...missed his head by a small margain...left holes in the wall. Never again

[seven]

Di possibilities

[Kuffir]

Di attempt murder

[Flat Eric]

di margain

[Captain Planet]

Kids i mentor know him, infact I've probably been in a mentoring session with him in 2012 apparently. They say the boy was moving very reckless for a while.

I'm glad there are kids who are so on point in the ends though. Really good bunch of lads.

[Flat Eric]

if you mentored him properly that one time an innocent girl would prob still be alive