Should Ched Evans, previously convicted of rape, be allowed to play professional football again?

[Haze-e]

That first one was the first rational post ive read on the case tbh while the huff one goes off goes on a complete tangent about sexual violence, when this case involved zero violence.

Its mad how all these commentators havnt even bothered to read up on the case.

This. Smh.

[Badman]

 

Its more the stigma that is associated with the word 'rape' more than the actual act itselfOnly problem in this case is the sexually deprived loser feminists trying to push their hateful and immoral agendas and they target naive venerable men who are only looking for a quick shag.Succubus the lot of them

How is the stigma of the word worse than the act? It's ridiculous and concerning what goes through the minds of some of you men.

The act of rape (in any form) or sexually taking advantage of someone is abhorrent thus the stigma is rightly deserved.

 

 

So what about the female in question?

 

She was not forced to go to his hotel room in a drunken and 'vulnerable' state. What did she expect was going to happen? Go there are play tiddlywinks?!

 

Fuck outa here 

[TF S4DK]

Did she expect another man to turn up, and more to film her through the window?

[Badman]

That man was acquitted hence didnt 'rape' though 

 

And if you are talking about expectations, the lady in question willingly put herself in a compromising situation where expectation becomes blurred and subjective

 

Which in turn worked against Chad. Why should she get the benefit of the doubt and Chad branded a racist and his life ruined?

 

Its a perfect way to mask her own shame to be seen as the victim rather than the intoxicated promiscuous slut that she really is

[darkman]

He didn't rape her, in the lowest forceful way, no. But he took advantage of her, no doubt about it, so for that's reason alone he is a wrong 'un. The fact he's a footballer who in the eyes of many, shouldn't really need to be such a creep to get p*ssy, is probably why he will be considered a rapist. I've had man I've known do the same/similar thing as Evans and while they haven't ended up with a rape conviction, in my eyes they are wrong 'uns.

 

Being considered a rapist and being a rapist is not the same.

 

If sex was consensual as he says then he's not a wrong'un. Simple as that

 

Do you consider Clayton McDonald to be a wrong'un too?

[Seth Rollins]

Clayton simply picked up a drunk chick and beat, so NO.

 

Ched ran the RISK of this being the outcome due to what he done. He's a wrong'un at the very least, and because this situation CAN go down in this way, yes, he IS a rapist.

[Seth Rollins]

As a footballer, he has absolutely no reason to be moving in this manor either.

 

And he has a girl?

 

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. SMH.

[Seth Rollins]

 

 

Honestly, I’d love to. Only the Ched Evans story is far more problematic than that of a priapic predator in a dark underpass. I’ve spent two grim days reading about everything the former Welsh international did in a hotel in Rhyl in 2011. I have come to three conclusions. The first is that the verdict of the jury was inconsistent and quite possibly unsafe. The second is that the football pitches of England would be half-empty this Saturday afternoon if you removed every player who has done what Evans did. (And so would many of the clubs and pubs.) The third conclusion is probably the most troubling. We live in an era where relationships among the young have changed beyond recognition. Casual hook-ups and the exchange of sexual favours are the norm. Even “nice” girls allow themselves to be used like inflatable dolls. (If confident enough, they can use men like playthings in return.) In such a free-for-all, what is meant by “consensual sex” becomes more and more blurred.

 

 

 Footballer Clayton McDonald, a friend of Ched Evans, picked up a 19-year-old girl who was drunk at 4am, and went back to a hotel room with her. McDonald texted Evans: “I’ve got a bird.” McDonald and the girl then had sex. Evans turned up, and the court was told that the girl asked him to perform oral sex on her, which he did. Evans then had sex with the girl, whom he claimed was enjoying herself. A hotel porter said there was no sound of distress or cause for alarm. A few of the footballers’ charming mates showed up and filmed through a window. The next morning, Evans departed via an emergency exit. The 19-year-old awoke to find she was naked, with, she says, no memory of what had happened to her. That evening, she reported McDonald and Evans to the police.

 

Tell me that's not predatory behaviour from Ched. The only thing that could have worked in his favour was the fact BOTH of them was on trial. Which makes her look bad.

[darkman]

Whether he's a footballer or has a girl is irrelevant

[Seth Rollins]

Really?

 

I expect dirtbags to move like that. Not grown men in a worldwide privileged professional sports job earning tens of thousands a week.

[TF S4DK]

That man was acquitted hence didnt 'rape' though 

 

And if you are talking about expectations, the lady in question willingly put herself in a compromising situation where expectation becomes blurred and subjective

 

Which in turn worked against Chad. Why should she get the benefit of the doubt and Chad branded a racist and his life ruined?

 

Its a perfect way to mask her own shame to be seen as the victim rather than the intoxicated promiscuous slut that she really is

 

How did she willingly?

 

Racist?

[TF S4DK]

 

He didn't rape her, in the lowest forceful way, no. But he took advantage of her, no doubt about it, so for that's reason alone he is a wrong 'un. The fact he's a footballer who in the eyes of many, shouldn't really need to be such a creep to get p*ssy, is probably why he will be considered a rapist. I've had man I've known do the same/similar thing as Evans and while they haven't ended up with a rape conviction, in my eyes they are wrong 'uns.

 

Being considered a rapist and being a rapist is not the same.

 

If sex was consensual as he says then he's not a wrong'un. Simple as that

 

Do you consider Clayton McDonald to be a wrong'un too?

 

 

Okay maybe I shoudn't have said, maybe, cos right now Ched Evans is a convicted rapist...

 

He's a wrong 'un for so many reason, wtf. This is the one thing thats actually undeniable. Hell I think even he'd admit he made mistakes and regrets lots of what he did.

 

Yes. He's the c*nt that lined her up. Sometimes I think man should just think for a second if it was there sister or child...

[TF S4DK]

I say he lined up as that how it was portrayed in the context of the texts, if he said "I've got a bird" as in I've left the club and the city centre thats different, cos he's just letting man know whats going on and where he's at, but the context in court is made out like he lined her up after for Evans...

[TF S4DK]

Whether he's a footballer or has a girl is irrelevant

 

In court it's irrelevant, in mine and pretty much society eyes it's very damning mate. The latter definitely makes him a wrong 'un, got a wifey and your eating out random pissy drunk tings your mate just beat.

 

Literally if I posted a porn clip of what they did, Evans would definitely be casted in the role as cuckold.

[Seth Rollins]

One thing you cant question or doubt.

 

If a girl goes home with a dude from the club because she is feeling him, attracted to him, spent the night dancing and grinding and lipsing him, are you telling me, drunk or not, it's cool for a bag of man to just be there asking to record or 'Have a go after'?

 

F**king LOOSE behaviour.

[gattsu]

Whether he's a footballer or has a girl is irrelevant

If you're going to cheat on your chick you dont do it with some drunk slag that your boys just recently ran though

[JOHN DOE]

Clayton simply picked up a drunk chick and beat, so NO.

 

Ched ran the RISK of this being the outcome due to what he done. He's a wrong'un at the very least, and because this situation CAN go down in this way, yes, he IS a rapist.

 

how is man a rapist 

 

ting was drunk probably consented to fucking sameway she consented to him going down 

 

shes just a whore that was ashed she got battried and then recorded 

 

filthy slag 

 

all we can take from this is that man must be extra careful when piping drunk tings especially white tings 

[Supermalt]

Really?

 

I expect dirtbags to move like that. Not grown men in a worldwide privileged professional sports job earning tens of thousands a week.

 

its not relevant

 

whether he has a square job or is a baller, whats only relevant are the facts

 

if you want to bring character into question, haven't read anywhere he has a history of this

 

 

 

If there was no forensic evidence on the complainant or in the room and no complaint, how did both Clayton and Ched get charged with rape by the North Wales police?

 

A. When interviewed separately both Clayton and Ched acknowledged consensual  sexual activity with the complainant – they told the truth.  If they had

refused to comply and ‘no commented’ the questions, they could not have been charged.  Their honesty incriminated them.

 

 

imagine your ballling life ruined over this

 

 

 

everyone lost, but him being a rapist i cant concur 

[JOHN DOE]

look a lil thick 

 

would go troo

[TF S4DK]

 

Clayton simply picked up a drunk chick and beat, so NO.

 

Ched ran the RISK of this being the outcome due to what he done. He's a wrong'un at the very least, and because this situation CAN go down in this way, yes, he IS a rapist.

 

how is man a rapist 

 

ting was drunk probably consented to fucking sameway she consented to him going down 

 

shes just a whore that was ashed she got battried and then recorded 

 

filthy slag 

 

all we can take from this is that man must be extra careful when piping drunk tings especially white tings 

 

 

All irrelevant, the girl is no angel, trust me I ain't defending her...

 

BUT Evans moved YOUNG.

 

No amount of thirst could make me move like this.

 

Rightly or wrongly, the fact is he earns too much p and is too known to move like this.

 

So I don't feel sorry for him. Mike Tyson on the other hand...

[Seth Rollins]

 

all we can take from this is that man must be extra careful when piping drunk tings especially white tings 

 

 

THIS, is what you're taking from this whole case?

 

Jesus f**king Christ.

[TF S4DK]

Evans is the star out of all of them that went out that night.

 

They in his bits.

 

and he's taking his any guy bredrin's seconds in a Premier Inn.

 

No doubt the ting is also uglier than his wifey.

 

Rapist or not, this shit is embarrassing.

 

I can't relate to you how muggy I think Evans is for that shit.

[JOHN DOE]

its not irrelevant,

 

thats not rape not matter how 'young' you move 

[JOHN DOE]

 

 

all we can take from this is that man must be extra careful when piping drunk tings especially white tings 

 

 

THIS, is what you're taking from this whole case?

 

Jesus f**king Christ.

 

please dont use the Lords name in vain 

[Sole]

Really?

I expect dirtbags to move like that. Not grown men in a worldwide privileged professional sports job earning tens of thousands a week.

Dirtbags in every walk of life

you can't apply that logic to these sort of guys.