O Fenomeno Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Wait you mention Real have only one CL title in 12 years but have the cheek to talk about Liverpool's past success. In terms of the last ten years European trophies Spain 16(Sevilla 5 Barca 5 Atletico 4 Real 2) England 5(Chelsea 2 Liverpool 2 Man Utd 1) The gap is huge The levels are a madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Until England can produce an all English Super Cup I think this debate is truly over because come August La Liga will have their 3rd edition of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattsu Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 when you say european trophies, yo mean eurpoa ...just to be clear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Champions League Europa League European Super Cup They are all European trophies no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Anyways when Barca win European Cup/CL again for the 5th time Two teams in CL final Two teams in EL semi-final Barca knocked out City calm Atletico knocked out Chelsea calm CL winner EL winner This is the wrong season to try and come@La Liga Its Shutdown Season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattsu Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 just being clear... thats what you ment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Last few meetings between La Liga & PL in finals Atletico 4 Chelsea 0 Barcelona 3 Man Utd 1 Barcelona 2 Man Utd 0 Barcelona 2 Arsenal 1 Sevilla 4 Middlesbrough 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zizouz Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 In the last 10 years england have produced 3 cl winners while spain have produced 4 (1 more). England have 3 different cl winners while spain have 2. Make no mistake about it the pl is behind especially when it comes to technical ability but the gap isnt as big as people make it out to be. The p.l isnt far off. Remember football works in cycles. Madrid have been to 1 final in 12 years and barca never won a single c.l trophy until like 20 years ago. Even liverpool got more than them. give it up, league's slowly dying while fans/media/pundits lie to themselves  how's it only this year they noticed that maybe, just maybe the prem isn't the greatest and the strongest team in the league aint on par with the elite?  too much money riding on the reputation, it's a bubble, gonna burst soon if clubs don't step up this summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Goat Liga>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeshua Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Its not the strongest at the moment, but it works in cycles and all that... is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Goat Liga>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest babatundestacks Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 In the last 10 years england have produced 3 cl winners while spain have produced 4 (1 more). England have 3 different cl winners while spain have 2. Make no mistake about it the pl is behind especially when it comes to technical ability but the gap isnt as big as people make it out to be. The p.l isnt far off. Remember football works in cycles. Madrid have been to 1 final in 12 years and barca never won a single c.l trophy until like 20 years ago. Even liverpool got more than them. give it up, league's slowly dying while fans/media/pundits lie to themselves how's it only this year they noticed that maybe, just maybe the prem isn't the greatest and the strongest team in the league aint on par with the elite?  too much money riding on the reputation, it's a bubble, gonna burst soon if clubs don't step up this summer ive never been one to buy this whole sky nonesense about the pl is the best league blah blah blah but as i said before football works in cycles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest babatundestacks Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Also i dont think its fair to add winning the europaleague as an argument why the pl is light years behind laliga because rightfully or wrongfully pl teams generally do not take it seriously and most do not play their first teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Nonsense Its a major European trophy so it gets added It's not Spain's fault your teams bar Chelsea under Rafa have not been good enough. If we are going to agree on English teams not taking the Europa League seriously you might as well add CL into the equation because your teams have been very poor in that competition in the last three years Italy are onto you They want their fourth spot back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattsu Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Its a 2nd their European trophy, well to this country at least, If you're even taking part you wasn't good enough for the champions league, Any top team dumped into this competition legit doesn't want to be there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 All I know is Ronaldo and Messi aren't getting 40+ goals in the prem.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Ronaldo scores more in Spain than he did here. Soldado scored more there than he did here. Where is Negredo now? Your argument is seriously flawed Anyway Messi and Ronaldo are 2 freaks. Not only the best in the world but 2 of the greatest ever so lets not forget that Level of competition in Spain is a joke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Atletico Madrid comfortably better than any English team In terms of quality also if Goat Liga & PL ever decided to have a league between the two The League will finish like this Barca Real Atletico Chelsea Man Utd Arsenal Sevilla Man City Valencia Tottenham Liverpool Villarreal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 If sidemen like Kun are getting 26 goals So imagine how many Cristiano Ronaldo e Messi would get 50+ plus in this horrible league every season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 You would have a point if they wernt taking champions league for a regular league with the goals they get Or they didn't score vs English sides But they do both so.... Or the likes of Costa, aguero, michu and negredo didn't come to England and score more goals then they did in Spain. Imagine Kun's highest tally in La Liga was 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Chelsea and City are better than Athletico Ronaldo and Messi aren't getting 50 in the prem. Ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeshua Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Kun is a sideman yh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeshua Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Â You would have a point if they wernt taking champions league for a regular league with the goals they get Or they didn't score vs English sides But they do both so.... Or the likes of Costa, aguero, michu and negredo didn't come to England and score more goals then they did in Spain. Imagine Kun's highest tally in La Liga was 20 Â Â How old was he when he got that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 What makes them better than Atletico List reasons / What makes Atletico better than City? They have been to a final in CL Two Europa League wins City never been past the last 16 in CL City never been past the last 16 in EL What makes Atletico better than Chelsea? Smashed Chelsea in the super cup final KO Chelsea out of CL semi-final with ease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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You would have a point if they wernt taking champions league for a regular league with the goals they get
Or they didn't score vs English sides
But they do both so....
Or the likes of Costa, aguero, michu and negredo didn't come to England and score more goals then they did in Spain.
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Ronaldo scores more in Spain than he did here. Soldado scored more there than he did here. Where is Negredo now?
Your argument is seriously flawed
Anyway Messi and Ronaldo are 2 freaks. Not only the best in the world but 2 of the greatest ever so lets not forget that
Level of competition in Spain is a joke
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Atletico Madrid comfortably better than any English team
In terms of quality also if Goat Liga & PL ever decided to have a league between the two
The League will finish like this
Barca
Real
Atletico
Chelsea
Man Utd
Arsenal
Sevilla
Man City
Valencia
Tottenham
Liverpool
Villarreal
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If sidemen like Kun are getting 26 goals
So imagine how many Cristiano Ronaldo e Messi would get
50+ plus in this horrible league every season
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Imagine Kun's highest tally in La Liga was 20
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Chelsea and City are better than Athletico
Ronaldo and Messi aren't getting 50 in the prem. Ridiculous
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Kun is a sideman yh.
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How old was he when he got that.
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What makes them better than Atletico
List reasons
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What makes Atletico better than City?
They have been to a final in CL
Two Europa League wins
City never been past the last 16 in CL
City never been past the last 16 in EL
What makes Atletico better than Chelsea?
Smashed Chelsea in the super cup final
KO Chelsea out of CL semi-final with ease
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