Gender is a social construct?

[dom dom bullets]

 

 

 

I think some are confusing gender with sex

 

People should read

What's the difference

 

That wasn't aimed at you btw

 

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sex is biological, it is in no way a social construct

 

gender, on the other hand, is up for debate;

 

noun

 

 

 

• 1.

  the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

Any cultures outside the west whether sex and gender are not consistent as we see it? Are you talking about matriarchal societies?

If we're seprating the two, then imo one must beget the other.

 

 

This is neither here nor there as regards a conclusion about social constructivism

 

Fair enough it's your opinion, but what is this opinion based on? (rhetorical question). Personally, I'm on the fence as I haven't read enough to convince myself either way (though at the moment I'd say I leant slightly to the 'yes' side)

[Da Luv Doc]

Also most of you who criticise feminism don't understand the first thing about the movement, their goals or beliefs.

The fact their are liberal, radical, socialist, marxist and conservative feminists should give that away.

You lot only seem to talk about social media feminists

Men are not the enemy, but the fellow victims. The real enemy is women's denigration of themselves.

Thoughts on this Smaddy? (Betty Friedan)

There are*

[Da Luv Doc]

Born xx chromosomes, you are a woman.

Born xy chromosome, you are a man

"Sex change" is fraudulent.

Trying to manipulate a straight person of the same sex should be illegal.

[Cole Des]

[Afroman]

Cringe

[Guest PrincessAb]

 

 

I think some are confusing gender with sex

 

People should read

What's the difference

 

 

That wasn't aimed at you btw

 

/

 

sex is biological, it is in no way a social construct

 

gender, on the other hand, is up for debate;

 

noun

 

 

 

1. 1.

   the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

 

 

Gender is socialized. From the moment a child is born it's masculinized/feminized through male/female baby names, "pink" versus "blue" rooms, dolls for girls and cars for boys, emulating the mother/father's gender roles etc.

 

Biologically, yes males and females differ due to the Y chromosome which causes babies to become male, otherwise everyone would be female...

 

Gender doesn't equal biological sex.

[Supermalt]

I think some are confusing gender with sex

People should read

What's the difference

That wasn't aimed at you btw

/

sex is biological, it is in no way a social construct

gender, on the other hand, is up for debate;

noun

• 1.

  the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

Gender is socialized. From the moment a child is born it's masculinized/feminized through male/female baby names, "pink" versus "blue" rooms, dolls for girls and cars for boys, emulating the mother/father's gender roles etc.

Biologically, yes males and females differ due to the Y chromosome which causes babies to become male, otherwise everyone would be female...

Gender doesn't equal biological sex.

Gender and sex. One came first and begot the other.

Would you personally accept a feminized partner?

[Guest PrincessAb]

Feminized in what way? Doing his share of the housework, cooking, cleaning etc? That's calm.

[Drift]

what if he wore dresses, sat down to pee, painted his nails and was a secretary? trusay its all a social construct.

[Guest PrincessAb]

I'm not particularly attracted to effeminate males, but if that's what someone wants to do I'm sure someone somewhere may be attracted to them. It's not my place to tell other people how to behave. 

[Supermalt]

but if that's what someone wants to do I'm sure someone somewhere may be attracted to them.

Nope, 99% of women will not be attracted to such a faux man.

Other 1% would just want someone to control.

So these are ideals you wouldn't want in a partner, cool.

What about your child?

[Grafter]

it doesnt matter what we want, we are products of these social gender constructs and to a large extent our preferences are influenced by that

 

a woman not being attracted to an effeminate man is not proof that gender is not a social construct

 

and women on the whole might not be attracted  to men who wear dresses but theres a sliding scale. Some women love very masculine men, other women like men with softer jaw lines, higher voices

 

That aside, there are places where men wear clothes which are dresses, they might not be called dresses but it is basically a dress but he is still masculine. i.e. the jubba, the changsan

Clothing is a part of gender constructs, so in cultures where a man can wear a dress looking garment, wearing a dress is nothing to do with being feminine. But they do obviously draw the line somewhere with their clothing

 

the point is we can draw the line anywhere and then all be socialised to understand and stick to that line and anyone who crosses that line starts thinking stuff like maybe i was supposed to be on the other side of the line all along

[Guest PrincessAb]

 

but if that's what someone wants to do I'm sure someone somewhere may be attracted to them.

Nope, 99% of women will not be attracted to such a faux man.

Other 1% would just want someone to control.

So these are ideals you wouldn't want in a partner, cool.

What about your child?

 

 

How do you know what most women are attracted to? Everyone has individual preferences. And if my child was transgender/transexual, gay etc what do you want me to do about it? I'll let them know that they will face a difficult life because society is intolerant, but if they're doing what;s natural to them then so be it.

 

Why are you so concerned about what other people do? If your gender matches your biological sex,great. If not that's fine too.

[Seydou]

fuck that

[Supermalt]

What a time to be alive.

I'm really not concerned with other people, was picking your brain.

Ta.

[Guest PrincessAb]

 

 

 

I think some are confusing gender with sex

 

People should read

What's the difference

 

That wasn't aimed at you btw

 

/

 

sex is biological, it is in no way a social construct

 

gender, on the other hand, is up for debate;

 

noun

 

 

 

• 1.

  the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

Any cultures outside the west whether sex and gender are not consistent as we see it? Are you talking about matriarchal societies?

If we're seprating the two, then imo one must beget the other.

As for feminism, I want to live in a world where my daughter has the same opportunities as my son. But this is sh*t right here.....

http://louderwithcrowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/jakejosie.jpg

Come on.

 

 

I see nothing wrong with the poster tbh. If a woman is blackout drunk how can she consent to sex? If both parties are very drunk then that makes the situation more difficult.

[Supermalt]

I think some are confusing gender with sex

People should read

What's the difference

That wasn't aimed at you btw

/

sex is biological, it is in no way a social construct

gender, on the other hand, is up for debate;

noun

• 1.

  the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

Any cultures outside the west whether sex and gender are not consistent as we see it? Are you talking about matriarchal societies?

If we're seprating the two, then imo one must beget the other.

As for feminism, I want to live in a world where my daughter has the same opportunities as my son. But this is sh*t right here.....

http://louderwithcrowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/jakejosie.jpg

Come on.

I see nothing wrong with the poster tbh. If a woman is blackout drunk how can she consent to sex? If both parties are very drunk then that makes the situation more difficult.

Poster clearly says both parties are drunk..

Scream equality but without the responsibility.

[Guest PrincessAb]

Depending on size, people handle alcohol differently. Isn't that why men and women have different recommended alcohol units? Also, why don't girls go around clubs buying drinks for guys to get them drunk?

 

Many guys will see a drunk girl and take advantage. That's the problem the poster is trying to tackle.

[local]

Alcohol units are a social construct

[Supermalt]

Alcohol units are a social construct

 

makes sense, as there are no differences between the socially constructed genders

[Heero Yuy]

Nah im dying

[ag.]

 

 

pretty sure its coz ppl will take sutn free any way they can get it

 

if they get pissed for free why they gona say no 

[local]

Get ur tits out

[Supermalt]

whos buying random girls drinks anyway