Long distance supporters.

[Frank Furta]

Excuse me if this is ignorant of me but i really dont understand how people from the south of england can support a northern team i.e Man u/Pool, Cos odviously there the small problem of having to travel half way up the country to watch ur team, then ur begging sum next city which u dont even live in or have lived. So basically the passion of ur club seems quite void, i could never see myself at anfield or old trafford jumping up and down and chanting with scousers or mancs it just dont seem right. they have a diffrent culture and are diffrent type of people, and i am sure they themselves would probably question why u support there team. So in short to me it just seems wrong.

[Mr. Gayle]

The indirect thread is in the Whatever room, bait send for Murk etc

[Lenny]

Keep this as a proper discussion as nothing else is popping in this room at the moment. I want to know views from both sidesSaid the exact same thing to Arsonist but focusing more so the passion, culture and local rivalry aspect. Not saying theres anything wrong with supporting a club far away from you before anyone starts... Just not something i could see myself doing. Im from london, i support a london based club. I know and im involved in the culture of my club, Then theres the banter with the local rivals etc. I'll elaborate more when others have added there views

[Guest Cousin Of Sleep]

lol @ Indirect.I'll asnwer.Personally I think this is also a culture/family thing. not with all but a lot I have seen...(west indian black anyway)Supporting the team nearest to you was/is somewhat of a local community thing, you support your local area so its only logical you go to see them play football (if only in the days that it was out of convenience, you coudlbnt afford to travel to another city to see football matches).Your dad would raise you to support the club HE supported, then he would take you to the game.I never lived or was raised by my dad& my nearest club is millwall. rofl. (I used to go to see them & playe din teh academy when i was young, but then realised ALLOW PEOPEL CALLING ME DENZEL.)SO I learned all about football from my best fried (who was like 5 years older) He taught me how to play & I watched games with him, and HE supported Man utd. so obviously i grew to love the team from a young ageUsed to go watch the games with my dad when I saw him bt that was it cuz I was youngI was what...VERY young when I got into football? when I got into it, its not like im gonna stop supporttin the club I love cuz I've got to my teenage years and people cuss me for it, that would be AMAZINGLY fickle and stupid.Fair enough I dont have a role in the 'manchester community' but look at how sh*t is now, there is no community spirit ANYWHERE, and tbh where I live is basically a crime-infested rat-hole. No sense of community or community football. Nearest I get to that is saying 'SW9 BANG BANG'The word gloryhunting gets thrown around and tbh its laughable, the f*ck would I know about glory or who was the best when I was a child?Sameway its stupid when people from east/west/(south under like..25) london support arsenal then try to brush about me supportin utd when they suport arsenal they aint involved in the north ldn community so its the same thing.Thats why.Althoguh I aint gonna lie when I hear other people from london sayin 'we' in reference to like liverpool, utd etc I find it stupid but im sure they have their reasons just as I do.Tbh I dont feel too too tuff liike I belong in this country anyhow so I dont feel that much of an allegiance to any patch of land in terms of community cuz there is none.

[Guest Eduardo]

Yeah that's true.The rivalry for instance between Liverpool and Man Utd is totally lost on here as it transcends football and stems from the rivalry between the two cities. The fans who live in London do not have a clue about the rivalry, hence why Liverpool and Man Utd fans on here and in London generally have a neutral relationship.They can't fully appreciate the rivalry.

[BATTY BOY BUM BANDIT]

There obviously cases for long distance supporters to be unacceptable, but my personal case, which I see as completely normal is...My dad 'supports' united. By that, I mean he is a united fan but he isnt a huge fan. he doesnt follow football MASSIVELY and although he knows quite a bit about tactics etc, he doesnt know much about football knowledge.He brought me up as a United fan. So I satrted supporting united. If I then CHANGED teams surely that would be MUCH worse. And the fact I am actually a proper fan makes my distance from the club irrelavent IMO.When people call me a glory hunter I dont care particualrly as I know im not, and if my dad was, then how is that my fault?

[Rsonist]

The way i see it, you should either -1. Support your local club2. Support whatever club is in ingrained into your family historyIf you dont do either of those 2, i personally wont speak to you about football on a large scale and will discard your opinion, more times than not.I was born just outside of London, but was lucky, or unlucky (if you wanna look at it that way) enough to move within 3 miles of WHL when i was young.My dad's side of the family arnt into football that much but when he split from my mum when i was about 5 or 6, a bond with my uncle, my mums brother was created, and therefore the love of my current club grew from that.Most people who speak to me on MSN now know that i travel MILES to watch my team because of uni commitments although that wont last too much longer, i dont think that makes you more of a fan though, i either get called stupid or loyally blind.Saying that though, i dont particularly like or understand people from London who support any northern team without a good excuse, considering that there is about 30+ clubs in and around London to choose and support.

[Guest Cousin Of Sleep]

My dad 'supports' united. He brought me up as a United fan. So I satrted supporting united. If I then CHANGED teams surely that would be MUCH worse. And the fact I am actually a proper fan makes my distance from the club irrelavent IMO.

c/s for me.Although I'd say my dad is a massive supporter. And his dad.Tbh, Im only the second generation of people born in this country on my dads side. & We are all utd fans..

[Lenny]

Sameway its stupid when people from east/west/(south under like..25) london support arsenal then try to brush about me supportin utd when they suport arsenal

a MANCHESTER united fan BASED in LONDON is not the same as an ARSENAL fan based in another part of LONDON.

[Guest Cousin Of Sleep]

Sameway its stupid when people from east/west/(south under like..25) london support arsenal then try to brush about me supportin utd when they suport arsenal

a MANCHESTER united fan BASED in LONDON is not the same as an ARSENAL fan based in another part of LONDON.

Im not saying it is the same thing.I am saying the reason they say it is because I am not part of the manchester community.In the same way they are not part of the North London community, know nothign about the area etc.I was thinking of specific people.

[Frank Furta]

The "i support them because my dad supports them" still dont really make sense unless ur dad is either from manchester or liverpool.. because if not then ur fathers are as deluded as u.. and chances are if ur going by older generation supporters then chances are they purley picked there team on who was cutting the mustard at the time.

[Guest haze-e]

Sameway its stupid when people from east/west/(south under like..25) london support arsenal then try to brush about me supportin utd when they suport arsenal

a MANCHESTER united fan BASED in LONDON is not the same as an ARSENAL fan based in another part of LONDON.

Your correct.And i am in exactly the same boat as Cipher and Alex. However its not my Father who doesnt follow football Its my Grandad and my Aunt who are the supporters of United. When i was younger i was always with my Aunt who has been a united fan from day. Ingrained into her from her Dad who lived in Manchester when came over to this country.I have only had the oppurtunity to go and see Man U once which was when i was really young and i do intend to change that from next year once i finish with uni. I also see where your coming from with long distance fans but as you can see its not y fault im a Man U supporter lol.And Rsonists point,

The way i see it, you should either -1. Support your local club2. Support whatever club is in ingrained into your family history

I heavily agree with this.

[Guest Cousin Of Sleep]

The "i support them because my dad supports them" still dont really make sense unless ur dad is either from manchester or liverpool.. because if not then ur fathers are as deluded as u.. and chances are if ur going by older generation supporters then chances are they purley picked there team on who was cutting the mustard at the time.

Grandad came here from Jamaica & he supported utd, he brougght my dad up to, then my dad schooled me.

[Mr. Gayle]

Enfield FC, sick

[Mr Q]

TBH i cant support another club now if i tried thats thing. would be like cheating on my wife. I support liverpool because its who my dad happened to support i never thought about supporting anyone different, and i saw john barnes play, i dont feel i should justify why i support liverpool cause when they lose/draw/win i know i feel just as good/bad/down/excited/elated/frustrated as the guy who has lives next door to anfield.But meh..aint nothing gonna change no matter how much u question.

[Lenny]

when they lose/draw/win i know i feel just as good/bad/down/excited/elated/frustrated as the guy who has lives next door to anfield.

Doesnt matter how far or close you are, aslong as you FEEL it then no one cant tell you nothingBut, to me local rivalry is a big part of footballI mix with local rival fans all the time. The banter, the cussing etc is to much. It even happens when i come on here. Thats why i would find being a supporter of a up north club when im in london would be abit strange cause i dun know none of you man mix with evertonians or citeh fans. Must be abit boring in a sense, But most of you didnt choose your clubs so..And as Ryan pointed out even the man united liverpool rivalry is none exisitant on here/london fans which is true

The rivalry for instance between Liverpool and Man Utd is totally lost on here as it transcends football and stems from the rivalry between the two cities. The fans who live in London do not have a clue about the rivalry, hence why Liverpool and Man Utd fans on here and in London generally have a neutral relationship.They can't fully appreciate the rivalry.

[anti social]

Theres a lot of good points raised in this thread 4 both sides of the argument which i agree with. But i gotta say...... personally in my honest opinion u cant fully 100% appreciate a rivalry if ur not from that city/manor. For example, i dnt think an arsenal fan who lives up north would totally understand the rivalry with spurs. Dnt get me wrong, theres exceptions to the rule obviously, but the way i was brought in2 football, you support ur local team innit? Im not here 2 judge, but i feel if u aint from merseyside, u shouldnt be supportin L'pool/Everton. If u aint fron manchester, u shouldnt be supportin Citeh/united etc.

[Guest Tronics]

Ive supported United since i can remember and its had more to do with family vien anything. I remember asking my Dad a while back why we supported United as a fam and he told me it stems from a 'tale' that one of our extended fam had trials @ United way back when. Dont know how much truth there is in that but thats it comes from ha.Went to loads of games last season seeing as i wasnt in Uni but its been near impossible to get out there this term. Watch a few games at the start of the season but havent been up there since.Tbh its not hard for me to tap into the culture up there because United is soo ingrained in me. First match i watched was the 1995 FA Cup final which we lost. Don't think ive ever cried that much in my life ha.

[LS]

Being in the endz seeing everyone wear a Spurs/Arsenal top >>>>>>>>lmao @ the random slewage between arsenal fans and spurs fan that i see all the time comming back from uni.Thats the sh*t that makes me feel proud supporting a local team.

[HangTheDJ]

Supporting your football club should be a personal experience.Everyone has their own relationship with their club.I feel sorry for 'big 4' fans at times, because sometimes they get labelled as glory hunters when they're genuinely not.The only people who know wether theyre glory hunters or not is themselves... But if you are a glory hunter you've done yourself a MASSIVE dis-service.If you don't feel a special bond with your football club, then you're a fake fan, and you owe it to yourself to go to grass-roots level and (8)support your local team(8).

[mR ReZiW]

i have bare arguments when people slew westham. and den say but MAN U r sick thou. i always tell them if UTD were a ryman division team with 2000 ground capacity wud u support them. they ALWAYS go silent. obviously all the londoners that support the BIG up north teams r 'glory hunters'. Lets be honest here.

[Lenny]

i have bare arguments when people slew westham. and den say but MAN U r sick thou. i always tell them if UTD were a ryman division team with 2000 ground capacity wud u support them. they ALWAYS go silent. obviously all the londoners that support the BIG up north teams r 'glory hunters'. Lets be honest here.

If you were "brought up" supporting a top team from up north then no.But i know people that picked man united purely because they were the most popular/successful team.

[n/a]

support a local team(that doesnt mean that if u live in croydon u have to support palace, it means u should support a team from London or the surrounding areas)there are 93483948394 reasons why u should support a 'local' teamshouldnt even have to explain thembut culture and knowing ur rivals is onethere are some circumstances like tanner said if its in ur family like ur great grandad supported united then u get a half blybut the fact that most long distance support man u or liverpool is a jokethere the 2 biggest clubs in englandand most man started supportin them at the end of the 80's when liverpool had dominated for 10 yrsor in the 90's when man u dominated tbh if a man from london came up to me and said i support middlesbrough blud i would have more respectthere not a bait gloryhunteri will respect these supporters views on the gamebut when talking about supporting a team its all air

[anti social]

So is any1 actually going to admit to being a glory hunter then? lol

[BATTY BOY BUM BANDIT]

Some people arent getting my point so I'll make it in simpler terms.My Dad may well have been a glory hunter.I followed his support.Im not a glory hunter. I didnt choose.I didnt pick United because they were thebest etc, I support United because thats what I was brought up on.If he hadve supported Southampton/Leeds/B'ham/Cardiff, then thats who I would be supporting.Not my fault.