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ok do u have a source or quote?anyway the medicine that they give to AIDS sufferers is total f*ckry particularly for African peopleits not engineered to our immune systems and causes more harm than good, people end up gettin some nex illness, an takin some nex tablets to combat the illness that the anti retro viral drugs causedthe whole HIV/AIDS treatment is farcical
A source or quote for what? aids treatment for africa is no different to the treatment in the west. the problem is availablility. its people like you who spread stupid rumours that stick in the minds of people, so you will have africans in africa NOT taking their drugs becase they "heard" that it makes you die quicker, or is gonna cause more harm than good. you ask me for a source or quote then go and say suttin so stupid such as that? im talking from the experience of the doctors/ nurses around me who meet HIV patients in kings college so id like to know how many afircan aids patients you know first hand that said their treatment causes more harm than good.and my point is that streets claims this is media hype. and i chose to base that on african ignorance. i cldve just said ignorance but i chose to base it on his origin.
its not hear say or stupid rumoursi know of quite a few aids patients of African descent actually, I know people that have and do treat them, so what nowI want a source or quote for what this South African president apparently saidu only need to do a quick google search to see that there are papers on the adverse effects of these drugs which vary with ethnicity and between individualsu work in an aids clinic and you know bare doctors and nurses and ur trying to tell me that a good diet is not the basis of combatting any immune deficiency virus
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A Harvard University study estimates that 365,000 people in South Africa suffered a premature death due to their government inaction for years. The South African government under former president THabo Mbeki for years denied the scientific consensus on AIDS and did not provide its people with anti-retroviral drugs or drugs that would have prevented pregnant women with AIDS from infecting their children.Thabo Mbeki was notorious in his denial of the science behind AIDS and often responded that Western lecturing was nothing more than racism that implied that somehow African men were incontrollable sexual beasts. In the end, it was his own people who suffered a horrific fate.The study noted that had drugs been provided, most of the now dead 365,000 people would be alive.Even as neighboring Botswana and Namibia were providing their people with drugs even though they had a far less severe epidemic, South Africa for years denied any drug assistance.
Mbeki’s successor Kgalema Motlanthe is crippling with the consequences of his predecessor’s denial. That is why he has moved swiftly to put South Africa on track to properly combating AIDS. On the first day on the job - which started two months ago - he removed the Heath Minister, a woman who proposed garlic and lemon juice, among other novelties, as a way to treat AIDS.
At least five million of South Africa's 45 million population are infected with the disease, and about 2,000 die from Aids-related illnesses every day.Describing her policies as "immoral", the scientists called for "the immediate removal of Dr Tshabalala-Msimang as Minister of Health and for an end to the disastrous, pseudo-scientific policies which have characterised the South African government's response to HIV/Aids".Dr Tshabalala-Msimang became infamous for her repeated questioning of the efficacy of antiretroviral (ARV) drugs, instead promoting the use of garlic, lemon, beetroot and African potatoes as a more effective way of treating Aids.South Africa came under severe criticism at the recent international Aids conference in Toronto after Dr Tshabalala-Msimang openly said that the methods were preferable to ARVs.
Mr Mbeki came under fire in 2001 for saying he believed that poverty - and not HIV - was the chief cause of Aids. It took court action from the TAC for the government to start distributing ARVs - and activists still complain that the amount of drugs available covers a tiny fraction of those in need.
More than 60 international experts on HIV/Aids have called for the resignation of the South African health minister because of her stance on Aids.M anto Tshabalala-Msimang tells those with HIV to eat garlic and beetroot. In a letter sent to President Thabo Mbeki, the academics called the government's health policy "disastrous and pseudo-scientific". "Many people [in South Africa] are dying unnecessarily" because they cannot get Aids drugs, the letter says. South Africa is one of the countries worst affected by Aids, with some 5.5m people with HIV. At last month's international Aids conference in Toronto, United Nations special envoy for Aids in Africa Stephen Lewis said South Africa promoted a "lunatic fringe" attitude to HIV/Aids. The South African government has said it will change the way its Aids message is communicated. But Mr Mbeki has rejected previous calls to sack Ms Tshabalala-Msimang.
Edit, before you point out the obvious, I'm aware he didn't make the "garlic and lemon juice" comment personally, but he refused to reject what she said and it is well known he agreed with her 'advice'.
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US confirms first swine flu death outside Mexico• Mexican infant died after visiting family in Texas• Five confirmed cases in UK• Barack Obama urges 'utmost precautions' * James Sturcke, Rachel Williams and agencies * guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 29 April 2009 14.55 BST * Article historyArmy distribute masks during swine flu outbreak in Mexico cityA soldier hands out surgical masks to people in cars at an intersection in Mexico City. Photograph: Miguel Tovar/APThe swine flu outbreak today claimed its first victim outside Mexico: a 23-month-old child in Texas.A health official in Houston, Texas, said the child, thought to be a boy, was Mexican and had travelled to Brownsville to visit his family in the same state when he became ill. He was admitted to a local hospital on 13 April and was transferred to another hospital in Texas after he "became quite ill rather rapidly" .Three more cases were confirmed in the UK, adding to the two previously disclosed in Scotland, Gordon Brown told the Commons.More than 150 people are suspected to have died of the virus in Mexico and the illness has spread around the globe. News of the first death outside the country where it originated will increase fears that a pandemic could develop.Barack Obama said the US government was monitoring the situation and it was time to take "utmost precautions". He said he would do whatever was necessary to control swine flu and urged people to ensure good personal hygiene.US schools with confirmed or suspected swine flu cases should "strongly consider" closing, Obama said.The boy who died in Texas was "treated very aggressively" before he succumbed to the virus, a health official said. "All family members are healthy and well and have not had any symptoms," the official said.The US has confirmed 65 cases of swine flu, most of them mild, but Dr Richard Besser, the acting director of the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, said more deaths were likely. "Flu is a very serious infection and each virus is unique so it is hard to know what we are going to be seeing," he said. "But given what we've seen in Mexico, we have expected that we would see more severe infections and we would see deaths."World Health Organisation experts are to hold a third emergency meeting to discuss the alert level.d*ck Thompson, a WHO spokesman, said the agency's director general, Margaret Chan, "has seen a jump in cases and she wants to have that evaluated by the outside experts".He said it did not automatically mean a change in the pandemic alert level.Confirmation that infected people in two countries are spreading the new disease to their families or contacts in a sustained way would meet the WHO criteria for declaring a phase five alert on its scale. The highest is six. It raised the level from three to four on Monday as the virus moved to Europe.Separately, flu experts around the world were holding a telephone conference in an emergency review of the outbreak organised by the WHO to collect information on what is known about how the disease spreads, how it affects human health and how it can be treated. A report will be published shortly after the meeting ends.Arnold Schwarzenegger, the governor of California, declared a state of emergency after confirmation of 13 cases, while in New York there were fears the virus was showing signs of transmission to others from children who had visited Mexico.Egypt ordered the culling of all its 300,000 pigs as a precaution against swine flu, the country's health minister said on Wednesday. "It is decided to slaughter all swine herds present in Egypt, starting from today," Hatem el-Gabali said in a statement published by state news agency Mena.France said it would seek an EU ban on flights to Mexico. Argentina and Cuba have already banned them.The EU, the US and Canada have advised against non-essential travel to the country. The EU foreign relations commissioner, Benita Ferrero-Waldner, said the bloc was considering halting all travel to Mexico and disinfecting all airports.In Mexico, officials are carrying out a second round of stricter tests, which have so far confirmed that seven people have died of swine flu. Results have yet to be announced on a further 13 people previously said to have been killed by the illness. The virus is suspected in another 159 deaths and 2,498 cases of illness there.The health secretary, José Angel Córdova, said last night that the death toll was "more or less stable", even as hospitals were swamped with people who thought they had swine flu. Only 1,311 of those suspected of being infected remained in hospital, suggesting treatment works if medical care is sought quickly.In New York, officials said 18 children from two schools were being tested for swine flu after showing symptoms, and the city's health commissioner said "many hundreds" more children who had fallen sick may be infected with the virus.At least 10 countries around the world, including China and Russia, have introduced bans on the import of pork products, despite the WHO's insistence that the virus cannot be transmitted by eating pork.Bavaria's health ministry today confirmed Germany's first three cases of swine flu. The Robert Koch Institute said they were a 22-year-old woman being treated for flu-like symptoms in a Hamburg hospital after returning from Mexico, a man in his 30s being treated at a university in the southern city of Regensburg, and a 37-year-old woman from another southern town who recently travelled to Mexico.New Zealand is awaiting test results on 44 possible cases, on top of 14 already confirmed.While the latest confirmations were in developed nations, Dr Keiji Fukuda, the WHO assistant director general for health security, warned that the greatest threat was to the poorest countries."We know from history … that the poorer countries are the ones who really get hit the hardest, they are really hit disproportionately hard, and they also have the least resources to deal with these kind of situations," he said.Suspected infections are being investigated in Brazil, Guatemala and Peru, all countries that would struggle to cope with a large-scale swine flu outbreak.

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you see these masks? what makes them special, are they made of a special material?can u make ur own?
I think what makes it so special is that when your on public transport or on the street and your surrounded by them dirty mofo's who don't cover themselves when they sneeze, cough , spit when they talk ect. The mask obviously just covers your mouth and nose so you don't catch anything. I swear there is a lack of common courtesy in this society today.
sum girl told me theres a confirmed case in devon atmdunno if any truth in thisaint really been followin news this week
There are 5 confirmed cases in the UK. 3 confirmed cases in the England. 1 in Birmingham, 1 in London & the 12 yr old girl in Devon
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yh there is, people are jus really really unaware of other peoples space and personal boundariessome old (bloody tall for an old person) white woman came so close to me in the line in sainsburys that the cashier gave her my facking change cos she thought we were togetherand before it got to that, i musta try give her 'the look' an she jus gave me some big grinso basically what im sayin is u could jus tie a rag round ur face and its cool

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yh there is, people are jus really really unaware of other peoples space and personal boundariessome old (bloody tall for an old person) white woman came so close to me in the line in sainsburys that the cashier gave her my facking change cos she thought we were togetherand before it got to that, i musta try give her 'the look' an she jus gave me some big grinso basically what im sayin is u could jus tie a rag round ur face and its cool
huh? Dumb question but you got your change back right? I've got visions of some old lady running off whilst lol'ing
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you see these masks? what makes them special, are they made of a special material?can u make ur own?
Apparently the juice from ur unwashed klunge can be quite effective, just get a worn pair of knickers and wrap them around ur face, in fact, if u got a spare pair pop em in the post 4 me.
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