hiphop Kanye West

[Guest 90210]

fuk me

[Horatio Caine]

kanye talking a lot of sense there

 

hip hop IS holding him back

 

fully agree with his point of view with the millionaire vs billionaire thing

 

good example was when he said about the radio station....... its like some kid saying they want to aspire to be frank lampard.... why would you want to be frank lampard when you can be roman abramovic 

 

guys on the breakfast club got the blinkers on cant see the bigger picture

 

ive mentioned it here a lot of times in the race topics in whatever..... black people are too happy to settle for the life of the white upper working class

 

its true there is a demand for kanyes shoes and garms and now we know why nothing has dropped 

 

people in charge are out of touch.... they think because he is a black rapper his clothing line has to be an urban line...... look at how he dresses ffs

 

this is why i lol everytime i see cr7 or messi rocking a new boot that everyone else has....if theyre people got them a 1 away that only they had in the pro game....you know how much that would sell

 

companies underestimate pop icons influence on fashion and the world

i hear what ur saying but cthagod+ ur normal kanye fan dont care about his fashion issues, they started liking kanye because of his music, now his "fashion issues" are starting to creep into his music, e.g naming a whole bunch of fashion execs that no1 cares 4....

 

i dont think CthaGod is tryna hold him back.what hes tryna say is "do what u gotta do,jus dont complain about it like we know who your talking about, n make sure the issue doesn't creep into your music or ppl will start to question why they liked u in the first place"

[Horatio Caine]

im not saying i dont get it,in fact i even said "i now get what hes talking about", im explaining what charlemagne is tryna put across to him, like he said" its rich ppl problems",  ur go hard music fan dont wnna hear u crying about people on tracks, or go to a concert to hear u talk about spending 9 hours designing a sweater with hedi slimane....they came to hear your music,were living in the "social media" age, instead of commentating on kanye putting on a great musical show,people are now going to his concert jus to break news,e.g" kanye just said f*ck nike" ...

 

all that "ranting" is making the true fans stay at home...

[TF S4DK]

Lol at hip hop holding him back.

 

Lets be real, the issues are seperated and its the mixing of them thats making him look confused.

[TF S4DK]

Kanye issue with the major corps, is a self-interested one.

 

Yes he's right in what he's saying about how they move.

 

But your a f*cking recording artist, smfh. You know how the game works.

 

His problem with Nike and LV is they played him.

 

Unlike Def Jam, who once his debut was succesful, they was ringing down his phone for the next album, artist, new recording contract or joint venture contract.

 

They clearly have said you was succesful but not THAT succesful, that you deserve what your asking for... and I honestly think thats the part that disturbs Kanye more than anything.

[Horatio Caine]

exactly, he said something about jordan getting royalties,jordans a sporting icon, jackson, jordan n ali, major black icons, kanye isnt on that level to be demanding somthing from a major company,nike dont need kanye, nike are a sporting company, when they do stuff like  the yeezy 1s thats just a bonus to them, it means a lot to kanye but nike will live with or without them....

[Horatio Caine]

lol becks got named dropped

[Bobby Reds]

Hiphop aint holding Kanye back.

 

Dont matter what kanye west brings to the table, they would NEVER let kanye IN.

 

That would go against everything, that them type of people stand for.

[Horatio Caine]

lol na he will eventually get in but he needs to approach it differently

 

sean john is still about, apple bottoms is still around( some girl told me ) so yeah lol....hes jus gotta be patient  

[Agony]

Kanye needs the co-sign to become more than just another Sean John, which may have made a lot money but will never be mentioned in the same breath as LV, Gucci etc. which is where Kanye wants to be.

[Horatio Caine]

gettin a cosign still wont make "real" fashion editors see his company along side LV ,gucci etc, 

 

they only cater to the rich upper class

 

kanye said himself his  clothes will be affordable for all ppl, LV n gucci are high end.

 

its kinda like bmw vs Ferrari, bmw make affordable cars,Ferrari make high end cars, even if bmw came out with a 260mph high end car, ppl will still value Ferrari higher, its just the way it is.

[Horatio Caine]

basically what im tryna say is.......

 

ders too much prestige behind the name of those 2 ( LV/Gucci)

[dub]

He was also talking about H&M and Zara in the Zane Lowe interview.

 

Does he have the money to produce another Sean Jean, Phat Farm or Rocawear? He isn't on the level of Puff, Russel or Jay were when they kicked that stuff off is he?

[The Infamous]

Hes got a 100mil ish i would think thats what jay had roughly when he launched rocawear

[TF S4DK]

Sean John, Rocawear, Phat Farm etc are all OPM/other fashion house, well more like textile companies.

 

Kanye West wants the fashion house first as he wants to go high end, and then of course OPM.

[Agony]

= $120

[Horatio Caine]

id say he is when it comes to jay-z

 

it also depends on the team he has around him,jay had dame ,steve stoute etc....

 

the type of person kanye is, i dont think he wants that type of team around him because it would become "our" vision instead of his...

 

jay even did a deal with rebook to launch the SdotCarters....

 

seanjohn used to be "hip hop" clothing, if you look at it now u would be shocked lol,

[dub]

yeah i just took a look at sean jean and phat farm, definitely trying to appeal to the masses, rocawear looks played out though, dunno how its supposed to be worth half a billion

 

what's 'OPM' mean?

[The Infamous]

Other peoples money

[dub]

yeah i thought so but i don't get what TFS4DK is saying then

[Guest 90210]

yeah i just took a look at sean jean and phat farm, definitely trying to appeal to the masses, rocawear looks played out though, dunno how its supposed to be worth half a billion

 

what's 'OPM' mean?

 

opium

[Fresh To Death]

official playstation magazine

[seven]

have to admire a man who is as passionate about his craft like kayne is