Francis Coquelin Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Lemons Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YFSD Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Lots of bullshit considering Pedro is one of their players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Klitschko Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 :rofl:THE IBRA CRY FACE djkfdfggfhgf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Pos'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 @KaneWe clearly have different ideas on this focal point, as I pointed out prior to the game when I said "not quite getting this focal lark"Let me remind of the post you all laughed & negged before the match... Lol, TBH thats even better IMO.However it just makes me think Villa will be the cutting edge even more so...Eboue & Djourou better decide what language they gonna communicate in ASAP.Clichy & Koscielny it doesnt really matter, they cats anyway, but at least they got Song.Barcelona's scorer was Villa, goal comes cos he runs past our defence WITHOUT the ball and as he is a real #9, he is more cutting edge IMO than Messi, who wants to turn and run at Arsenal.The best chance Messi misses, is when he runs between Koscielny & Djourou without the ball.Because as I pointed out runners aginst Arsenal is like kryptonite to Superman.I said Clichy & Koscielny communication doesnt matter as they defend like cats risking lifes. The goal by Villa come inbetween them, and Song spotted the danger (late) but couldnt help them or take the card as he was already on a yellow.Thats why when people was claiming Barcelona are better than last years game cos they dont have Ibra (I thought but hold on aginst Arsenal are they, and I dont rate Ibra like that), but is playing a 4-6-0 really better against ARSENAL. Having nobody to defend or somebody to defend so deep improved Koscielny's game IMO. Granted its different at the Nou Camp where Messi is more effective, as he was last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp* Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Napoli vs Villareal ESPNShould be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Klitschko Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Well Messi will pick the ball up and drive at the defence more than Villa, but Messi was through on goal 3 times I believe, trying to define one of the front 3 of Messi, Pedro, or Villas the the cutting edge is rather a moot point considering their movement & fluidity in interchangeability along the front-line, this is what prodives the cutting edge.Arsenal coped with Messi well but NOT following his runs deep and thus not leaving Space for Villa/Pedro to run into, Barca don't have a #9. Just false ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Coquelin Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 7:10edadasdaDSFsddafgfddsHEARTBROKEN/ them smug grins at the end have to be gif'd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kane Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 @TFEssentially, you're saying player with cutting edge & the player who acts as the focal point is the same thing? I don't agree but I understand what you're saying.I'm saying it isn't. Even though he didn't score (well he 'did' but anyway...), Messi was generally the most dangerous player on the night. He got an assist, was involved in all their chances, etc. IMO, he was the focal point. Everything thing goes through him. Do you at the very least 'understand' what I'm saying? I don't consider a player with 'cutting edge' & the focal point as the same thing.And again, I understood what you meant by saying 'having 'nobody to defend against works better', but is your point justified? Was the fact Arsenal only conceded 1 goal due to how well we 'coped' as opposed to how wasteful Barcelona were?/Either, it was a great game. Arsenal did excellently to withstand Barcelona & fully took advantage of their complacency. Great spirit. But bar my result prediction, I think a lot of what I said stands for the Nou Camp trip. Again, winners don't rely on chance & I think we used up our fortune last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 KaneNo, I'm saying I'd consider Ibra a #9 and Messi a #10, their playmaker (yes I know they have Xavi & Iniesta). So if the understanding of "focal" is everything going through you then fine, to me thats a #10.So when people say Ibra was their focal point, last year, I instantly think of Ibra's game and what I saw of him (last year) and think well I'd never say Barcelona's game ran thru him, I say he was at the end of their game, i.e the goalscorer #9.To me Messi does the same as last year, granted yes he now plays though the middle and they interchange better.Cos yes and as mad as this sounds, with Messi's goal record, I'd rather see him running through on our goal @The Emirates, then Villa, obviously I couldnt go overboard with making this point, the night befoe a game as this is Vip2 and your words come back to haunt you, but I was suggesting that I didnt expect Messi to score in the home game.The Nou Camp is totally different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Klitschko Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Tbf the Barca system, has always been that they interchange, the forward comes outwide, makes space for the wider player, wider player comes inside, it worked perfectly with Eto'o, and works perfectly with Villa, Zlatan wasn't mobile enough and didn't suit the system though hence him not working out there.You two's argument is about semantics really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Klitschko Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Also, Messi was the catalyst for many of the attacks, but I am pretty sure Pedro was caught off-side more than any other player during the game, this speaks to the fact that he was either the player that was attempting to get behind the lines most, or that he has the poorest timed runs. Probably both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 TBH I'm not really talking about the Barcelona system. I NEVER was.This year I've watched much less of Barcelona than ever before. I dont claim to be some world football pundit. I just had a opinion on Arsenal's defensive weaknesses that I see every week and to me not playing a striker (or the closest thing to a striker that you have, David Villa) thru the middle against Arsenal doesnt really expose them, and that was the point I was making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anelka Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Again, winners don't rely on chance & I think we used up our fortune last night.I hear what ur saying, but we must not forget we wasted chances aswell, althoe we were fortunate to win the game I believe we created the same amount if not more chances than Barca.On reflection we shudda scored more and made more of the openings we created, Barca will say the same but im looking at it from our perspectiveI believe that the lack of a main striker helped us, Ibra was the no.9 and they had runners from all areas and made us defend deeper, this time we were higher up the pitch and more able to deal with Messi turning and darting as the midfield then defenders could spot the danger..They looked dangerous in behind and with the balls over the top, I am interested to see how Arsene will tackle the 2nd leg in terms of the personnel2day was a good day thoe, bare Arsenal shirts and jackets on show, every1 was proud/Quaresma scored a nice left footed volley 1-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M12 Part 2 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 The thing I find most f*cked about Messi is how he reacts to blocks and ricochets. Man will be dribbling get tackled the ball will canon off another guys knee and he will bring it under control and take it on without breaking stride like it was all part of his plan. Tekkers is f*cked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kane Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I hear what everything one's saying.Agree & disagree on some parts.BTW, f*ck Rsonist, f*ck Faze, f*ck Spurs. You beat a depleted Milan get happs, we beat Barcelona. Sucks to be you. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anelka Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 ShevchenkoBesiktas 1-2 Kiev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 They looked dangerous in behind and with the balls over the top, I am interested to see how Arsene will tackle the 2nd leg in terms of the personnelWenger will go in again, the same way, I can only see injuries changing things.I'm more intrigued by what Guardiola does in the 2nd leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsonist Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Lol Kane prepare to be quoted in 3 weeks you closet f*ckin Yid. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Poetic Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskay Jones Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Oh for f*ck sakes why the f*ck does everybody over analyze.arsenal are gonna get raped at camp nou end of story. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsonist Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 We beat Milan away from home, kept a clean sheet, scored an away goal with our B team more or less.Arseal conceeded an away gaol and still have to go to the Nou Camp.Put the gas levels down. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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