Tottenham/ London riots/ Mark Duggan IPCC Investigation

[Guest Portuguese]

LOL

[Afroman]

LOL

[Dr Doom]

Brem I don't know how you expect to be taken seriously in this discussion using examples like people trying to mc as one of the worst aspects of black cultureTBH you have come across as a bit of an uncle Tom in your last post

I'm not black and I'm not trying to come across as an uncle tom. I am me.I was just making a point that to gain acceptance in the ends you need to buy into some bullshit aspects of black and youth culture. Trying to mc being one if you got about as much talent a Mr Wong, or if you are hanging on the streets spiting with your mans instead of making a concerted effort to actual produce music. There are those that are f*ck*ng sh*t but continue to mc for p*ssy and ratings and it is unnecessary. Some of these guys do other bullshit for acceptance that are synonymous with Black culture and the Black community but have left behind the other aspects. I have African friends and there is a strong culture of education and learning generally speaking in this culture yet loads of Black kids of African origin don't give a f*ck about that, they fall in line with with the youth culture for acceptance.Like it or loathe it other races have followed suit. White folk act in the same manner and so do asians buying into aspects of alien cultures that bring no benefit to their own lives just for a sense of acceptance.

So f*ck*ng what if youths try to mc.

If they're sh*t, make no effort to be good, don't take it seriously, do it just to hang on the street corner with mans late at night and gain acceptance.... That there is something wrong with that.[switches from Uncle Top] "Jam your hype and sit down"

Are you really infected with this much stupidity? You think that mcing for fun is detrimental to a persons health or wellbeing? If they're going to be hanging on a street corner late at night they're going to be doing that regardless of the mcing part. I just think you tried to mc when you were a kid and got murked and now you're filled with resentment regarding mcs.

Mate if you had the intelligence to not focus on mcing then you would realise that what I was inferring is that there are certain requirements for acceptance in the ends. The things include acting a certain way, talking a certain way, doing certain thing etc... My point was in the ends there are certain things that have been bought into for acceptance and this includes other races. Other races have begged Black music, Black slang, even Black (West Indian) accents all in the name of assimilating into the environment.I'm not saying Black culture is sh*t. Not at all. I'm just saying people buy into elements of it just for show. Kids born and bread in England are talking with Jamaican accents, African kids whose parents damn sure don't speak that way are also doing the same, White kids do it, Asians do it.Elements of African Black culture (such as learning culture) have been forgone by African diaspora in pursuit of assimilating into the more generally accepted and cooler West Indian Black culture. (From I know African guys claiming they were of Jamaican origin).Urban culture and Black culture in many respects in London (as well as other places) have become synonymous with one another. This doesn't mean I believe they are the same but to an outsider like David Starky this can appear to be the case. More so than with any other culture Black culture has infiltrated the ends be it with music, fashion, language etc,,, and to those on the outside can be perceived as "Acting Black". Like it or loathe it, David Starky just said what every White middle class individual thinks and this association of Urban culture with Black culture is somewhat true and the Black community generally speaking haven't done anything to dispel this perception, quite to the contrary they have taken ownership of many aspects of it.Also in regard to Mcing. It is an element of Black culture but more than that it is an form of expression and has become watered down by those who express nothing and who do it for the sake of spuds. If you have no real love for it, your swag and just MC for image alone then there is something wrong in that.Take this for example:

Case closed.

That is something all children face. It's called peer pressure. If it wasn't black culture/black slang and whatever else you're blaming; it would be something else.

But the fact is it is elements of Black culture not something else. Therefore you can't get angry at some 60+ middle class white man thinking everyone is acting Black in urban areas because to a degree it is true.Disclaimer: I'm not saying looting or whatever other f*ckry went on this past week is Black culture. The riots were down to something far more basic... Want and individual choices to satisfy that want via criminal deeds.

Didn't get angry at him for thinking that mate, ignorance is something I expect from white people.

[NiNES.]

2 men have been charged with the Birmingham deaths, they havent mentioned the colour tho/one ealing shop got cleared 200 bags worth of goods FOKZ

[Dubby]

[zlastboss]

poor kid has a hard life ahead of him

[FinalBawse]

ShwvalxvFhdvawsGWshDcrlks x

[Kim]

hahahah

[MARVELL]

brem was talking sense tbh not an uncle tom stance at allive been cussing aspects of current HH from day95% of british black youth are just wannabe americansthere are good aspects of that to hold on to, but theres also sh*t aspects of it..and that seems to be what most pple focus onhaving said that... the real criminals are the white run govt and their media.has David starkey's interview been posted already?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAGTE_RGN4c

[Kim]

how are the goverment and media criminals?

[Steven]

Lets face it lads it's the Jewish Zionist controlled media using mind control tactics to inflict race wars amongst the peoples of this nation, whilst maintaining the illusion of being against racism and discrimination.Sorry but somebody had to say it.

[MARVELL]

how are the goverment and media criminals?

is that a trick question?*doesnt fall for it*

[Vertigo]

:D

[CarltonLeach]

Were these the guys who done Sky News Looter programhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2025785/UK-riots-High-tech-face-matching-catches-rioters-caused-havoc-Britain.html

[North Aleng]

lol

[Dr Doom]

Lets face it lads it's the Jewish Zionist controlled media using mind control tactics to inflict race wars amongst the peoples of this nation, whilst maintaining the illusion of being against racism and discrimination.Sorry but somebody had to say it.

The Jews actively work to conserve and protect the white male. Stop crying about a system that economically and psychologically empowers you.

[Vertigo]

Were these the guys who done Sky News Looter programhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2025785/UK-riots-High-tech-face-matching-catches-rioters-caused-havoc-Britain.html

SMHThese guys are just begging to get caught.

[His-RightPalm]

dad went INdidnt even clock until the 3rd time I read it

[MARLO STANSFIELD]

A lot of black people sadly have an odd sense of entitlement in black owned shops. I see it all the time. In an Asian/White owned shop they will pay £4 for an item. If they try haggle and the owner says no they accept it and come back next time. Same situation in a black owned shop it turns into "come on we're brothers reh reh reh" if the end answer is no, they never go back to the shop again because they feel the black owner has disrespected them or is tight.

CO SIGNand to add to that you would be surprised how much of the SAME kind of black people will tell me "its not about race I defend the human race, i dont see colour".......... yeah right except when its time for discount, them people who are black when its convenient.

[MARLO STANSFIELD]

Something I was told last night(true story)A black man goes back to Africa offers the locals a job and the pay is six pound an hour. A white man goes to Africa offers the locals the same job and the pay is three pounds an hour.The locals would tell the black man to f*ck off and take up the white man's offer instead!

I can tell this has come from what I believe is black person who has been rejected by black people for something or another, no one is denying that black people sometimes have an inferiority complex when it comes to doing business but this kind of statement is an over developed opinion from the position of bitterness rather than fact. I have seen it come from the mouths of many people that just like to believe these kind of stories to prop up their own beliefs which they had from jump.

[The Somalian]

Were these the guys who done Sky News Looter programhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2025785/UK-riots-High-tech-face-matching-catches-rioters-caused-havoc-Britain.html

SMHThese guys are just begging to get caught.

what prats FACT someone will recognize one of them then phone call patterns etc to link all of them (doubt it will even need to go that deep)and they will go jaillike I said last week only people who go to jail are People who want to and Niggas should of kept it on a low and keeped on moving -kudos points to them this sh*t aint GTA

[Steven]

Lets face it lads it's the Jewish Zionist controlled media using mind control tactics to inflict race wars amongst the peoples of this nation, whilst maintaining the illusion of being against racism and discrimination.Sorry but somebody had to say it.

The Jews actively work to conserve and protect the white male. Stop crying about a system that economically and psychologically empowers you.

I wasn't being serious...When are you going to reveal your ethnicity? See you dodging the question a couple of times...

[Yuri]

Lets face it lads it's the Jewish Zionist controlled media using mind control tactics to inflict race wars amongst the peoples of this nation, whilst maintaining the illusion of being against racism and discrimination.Sorry but somebody had to say it.

The Jews actively work to conserve and protect the white male. Stop crying about a system that economically and psychologically empowers you.

yh brah real talk, my dad mopping floors at a university is actively working to protect the white male

[JGGB]

Woolwich got done overMy mate used to work at that WetherspoonsShe's actually angry

[Vertigo]

Woolwich got done overMy mate used to work at that WetherspoonsShe's actually angry

Here's the video of the guys outside before they set it alight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kECj8NVu3Nc&feature=player_embedded

Went down to the centre on friday and it looks like a bomb has hit it.