grime GRIME

[Niall Ferguson]

On 15/05/2016 at 5:43 AM, The Somalian said:

Wiley and Dizzee done this back in 2002 if you check the flips of their white labels they have beats at 160 bpm when they were pushing the 'Eski Sound'

You're a treasure trove of nuanced grime information sir. Have a pos.

[Everyone's Uncle]

 

 

Not really grime?

was arguing with my mate where the lines are for Grime as a music// everyone debating where it comes from kinda sounds like some backpack uk rapper attitude.

[Niall Ferguson]

I would definitely class that as grime. I just randomly clicked at several points, and even though the tracks didn't all (some did) sound like grime, his flow is a grime flow. In fact, the whole sound reminded me of Wiley on Rinse.

 

Dunno how you can say that Faze, I'm listening now and Plasticman - Cha is running.

[Cole Des]

On 16/05/2016 at 4:21 PM, Greens said:

That's what I said if you go back enough, it all links back to American music and a common ancestor but that doesn't make it an offshoot of hiphop though. 

If hiphop didn't happen you can argue grime would still be here in some form. lyrically it would not have evolved much from simple garage lyrics though.

Hmmm

I think grime is a hybrid of ukg and hip hop personally.

Without hip hop, especially crews like Wutang, I don't think you get So Solid.

Just look at the influences in garage raves around that time, bling, Avirex's etc... all hip hop inspired.

[Greens]

6 hours ago, Cole Des said:

Hmmm

I think grime is a hybrid of ukg and hip hop personally.

Without hip hop, especially crews like Wutang, I don't think you get So Solid.

Just look at the influences in garage raves around that time, bling, Avirex's etc... all hip hop inspired.

You missed off the next part of my quote...

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Difference between taking influence and being a direct offshoot.

I wasn't arguing against hiphop's influence at all, just that it is not a direct ancestor of hiphop.

Grime started more from the beats than the Mc's imo. It was a natural counter reaction to overabundance of poppy tunes that were being realised in UKG at the time as everyone was chassing chart money.

So grime would still be here just in a different form without hiphop.

[dub]

its a far reach to say grime would exist without hiphop, because jungle would arguably not exist without sampling, which was popularised by hiphop, I'm not sure you could arrive at grime without jungle being in the path

vocal wise I guess you could argue that MCing would exist coming from Jamaican music

[Greens]

Grime came from UKG which came from USG which came from disco

Where does jungle fit in to the timeline?

I suppose you could argue people from jungle moved over and helped usher in a darker sound.

Producers were also sampling in hardcore way before anyone started to speed up breaks.

[dub]

Jungle influences to garage brought the MCs and the darker vibes into the genre, no?

[Lens]

 

[Thizz]

Stormin got cancer 

 

 

[Lionel & Dave]

On 7/11/2016 at 3:48 PM, Thizz said:

Stormin got cancer 

 

 

cancer scare no?

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so he had Lupus and thats why his face is like that

wanted to know the answer to that for like 13 years lol

[Lens]

 

[Thizz]

Dead

[Bruno Di Gradi]

new one from my prod by spooky 

[Lionel & Dave]

[The Somalian]

I went to The Den Last Night Spooky Vs J Cush Vs Big Mikee last night was a great clash.

DJ Big Mikee Pulling out a new crazy titch dub>>>>

here is a recording

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1ynJOzjBmNXGR

[kerser]

ayyyyy logan in the all white drop >>>>>>>>>>>

[Niall Ferguson]

On 21/07/2016 at 9:17 AM, Thizz said:

Dead

pmsl

[Bruno Di Gradi]

https://www.mixcloud.com/balamii/crayzee-banditt-aug-2016/

 

Crayzee Banditt all instrumental mix he done yesterday on radio

[kerser]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/This-Grime-Hattie-Collins/dp/1473639271

 

looks alright

 

need a link

[dub]

yeah I'll cop it when it falls to ~£10