Lacoste Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 What defines you to be english though? Is it if you have a british passport? Is it if you were born here? Because if two illegal immigrants sneak into this country and have a baby does that make their baby english even though they dont have status themselves? Just like im sure some of beckhams children were born in spain, does that make them spanish? I dont believe in the whole januzaj incident should play for england but some of the ignorant statements are silly IMO. By Shearer's logic then if some of beckhams kids were to become elite level footballers they shouldnt play for england because they weren't born here...smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marly Mar Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Stacks you do realize that being born in a country makes you from that country right? You was born in England wasn't you fella? I know it's a touchy subject but were all adults we can talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thizz Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 If you're born in England and have lived here the majority of your life than you're more English. You have your heritage but you have grown up living as an Englishman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benicio del Toney Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Wilshere trolled a lot of man into debating nothing tbh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 He didn't troll anything. He just gave his true feelings which a lot of players would be scared to say What I don't rate him for is saying he wishes Januzaj was English. The guy has started one game FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young £ Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Dying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoot Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 England squad needs all the help it can get tbh and quite a few teams have players of dual nationality (ozil, benzema etc). Giggs used to captain England U16S before Wales Diego Costa looking to get into the Spain squad too will be interesting if that goes through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Giggs played for England schoolboys only because he went to school in England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mame Biram Diouf Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 No way should Costa play for Spain Thats a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidge Weasle Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Stacks you do realize that being born in a country makes you from that country right? You was born in England wasn't you fella? I know it's a touchy subject but were all adults we can talk. The fuck is that face for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacksbranning Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Wilshire just shook that people are gonna take his place really. Januzaj shouldn't play for england though...if you're not born here you shouldnt really play for the team.....or i guess a british passport but really if youre born here. This guy shouldnt play for england? No he should not play for england . He should be playing for the ivory coast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro Posted October 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Wilshire just shook that people are gonna take his place really. Januzaj shouldn't play for england though...if you're not born here you shouldnt really play for the team.....or i guess a british passport but really if youre born here. This guy shouldnt play for england? No he should not play for england . He should be playing for the ivory coast What's your nationallity based on? Where you was born? How long you lived there? Your Ancestry? Your Papers? BITD this was a lot more clear cut but with all this globalisation and interracial relationships it's not anymore. You've got people like David Alaba who was born in Austria, is half Filipino and Nigerian. What country should he represent according to you? I always thought my parents background defined me but that is not to say that this has to apply to everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacksbranning Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Wilshire just shook that people are gonna take his place really. Januzaj shouldn't play for england though...if you're not born here you shouldnt really play for the team.....or i guess a british passport but really if youre born here. This guy shouldnt play for england? No he should not play for england . He should be playing for the ivory coast What's your nationallity based on? Where you was born? How long you lived there? Your Ancestry? Your Papers? BITD this was a lot more clear cut but with all this globalisation and interracial relationships it's not anymore. You've got people like David Alaba who was born in Austria, is half Filipino and Nigerian. What country should he represent according to you? I always thought my parents background defined me but that is not to say that this has to apply to everyone else. I can't speak for other races i can only speak for black people and imo black players shouldn't play for european international teams . Europe has had enough help from black people over the years/decades/centuries . Black players should play specifically for black african or black caribbean countries or at the worst case brazil . As much as idiots like john barnes,danny welbeck luther blissett like to think they are english,they are not . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afroman Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Wilshire just shook that people are gonna take his place really. Januzaj shouldn't play for england though...if you're not born here you shouldnt really play for the team.....or i guess a british passport but really if youre born here. This guy shouldnt play for england? No he should not play for england . He should be playing for the ivory coast What's your nationallity based on? Where you was born? How long you lived there? Your Ancestry? Your Papers? BITD this was a lot more clear cut but with all this globalisation and interracial relationships it's not anymore. You've got people like David Alaba who was born in Austria, is half Filipino and Nigerian. What country should he represent according to you? I always thought my parents background defined me but that is not to say that this has to apply to everyone else. I can't speak for other races i can only speak for black people and imo black players shouldn't play for european international teams . Europe has had enough help from black people over the years/decades/centuries . Black players should play specifically for black african or black caribbean countries or at the worst case brazil . As much as idiots like john barnes,danny welbeck luther blissett like to think they are english,they are not . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavant Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Creasing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 It does depend on the individual imo. My problem and why Januzaj is a non-starter is his parents aren't English, I dont think their is any English ancestry, and he moved to Belgium for ball, and then England for ball, and then he's gonna be 23 before he can even play for England lol. Owen Hargreaves, Mo Farrah, Pietersen, Lennox Lewis, Froome, despite their accents all have English parent(s). I can't even believe Pietersen tried to group himself and them with a debate on Januzaj tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Mo Farrah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojo Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Mo Farrah? His dad was born in London Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TF S4DK Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Genes are strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benicio del Toney Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 That's his twin lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Oh thought it was his dad still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Looks different with hair lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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