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Carra > Martinez

Nah he was being negative, martinez was taking positive and carras are xamples were poor

Even tho i see his point about the defenders splitting but martinez was defo right

Trust. Carragher was very reluctant to adjust his argument or provide a genuine counter argument. It was literally manager/coach vs experienced player, different perspectives and appreciation of the tactical examples. It made me think back to some of the things I read regarding Benitez and Carragher/Gerrard and their differences towards the end of his tenure.

I thought Martinez acquitted himself well because he was always gonna be respectful of other managers and their ideas, however, he did entertain or dissect the questions with enough insight and explanation. They should get him back on with Neville later in the season, it was good to watch.

The playing out from the back discussion has so many variables to it, as does the tactic itself and any team using that approach should deploy as many as possible. I thought it was telling that Carragher described it as a recent fashion, that's only in English football.

The high pressing/midfield man to man marking debate was interesting.

Firstly I remember him admitting Bayern's approach at the Camp Nou was suicidal but he was the only pundit on Sky defending it by explaining his interpretation of the idea behind it, saying Pep tries different things and that's what makes him great, highlighting Bayern didn't concede during that period etc.

Tottenham hardly threatened in that match so it's plausible that specific approach was an isolated example of Van Gaal adjusting his tactics in an extreme/aggressive way to nullify a specific opponent.

Carragher could have suggested that and still went on to make his point, rather than assuming they'll continue to use it against better teams and get punished. Seemingly ignoring some critical circumstances; it being a new method, start of the season, Man U are a developing team with new signings, they will continue to work on and most likely improve their understanding and execution of it to reach the level required before using it against the best teams. Never mind the actual way they approached and performed in the big games last season. Tactically, Liverpool away was one of their most aggressive and impressive performances.

In terms of the examples used, using a variety from other leagues that obviously execute them with more familiarity, efficiency and consistency would have balanced the analysis.

Everton were poor for most of last season, largely due to a lack of cutting edge and acceleration in their possession. They were much better overall, particularly in possession, throughout Martinez' first season, yet they didn't use examples from that season either. It felt like Martinez was always having to defend or justify the tactical idea because it's not the English way.

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