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17 minutes ago, Gambino said:

I see and what kinda budget can we afford to monitor over 20,000 of them 24 hours a day? Labour money tree yea?

so you're saying because we can't afford to monitor them all then its fine that we're cutting budgets?

 

could it be that you're defending budget cuts because you're aware that Brexit is causing the need for reduced spending?

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I never said it was fine we are cutting budgets... But I keep seeing guys taking digs at Theresa May and the Tories for cutting them over the Terror attacks. Firstly you wanna blame someone political let's start with Labour and Tony Blair. Secondly without the cuts, tell me how you are gonna pay to monitor over 20,000 suspects please?

Wait...... Did austerity not come in long before BREXIT did. You are saying we have to make cuts because of the European Vote? Nar mate, think you need to go right back to the time Labour left a note saying we have no more money.

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Monitoring 20,000 people would be a piece of piss for gchq with the tools they have.

 

but they would rather waste resources on mass surviellence of a whole nation looking for needles in haystacks

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You are right, nobody needs to be sat in front of a pc.

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16 minutes ago, FA23 said:

You are right, nobody needs to be sat in front of a pc.

They don't have the manpower to be out monitoring these people. I don't think workers at GCHQ have it in their job descriptions to be on road playing James Bond like MI5 do. No Man Power and we will never have the required funding to monitor that many people. So there needs to be an alternative.

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2 hours ago, Bruno Di Gradi said:

 

 

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...............not gonna lie....does look like the same don

thats an immense reach

they were clearly calle din at short notice and probably werent on shift at the time

 

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22 hours ago, Gambino said:

Well how about for starters they stop letting guys come back to the UK whom they know have been overseas fighting? How about they act and do something when that Manchester Attackers associates had reported him. Why don't they start shutting down Mosques who they know have had hate preachers in like the Didsbury one he attended which had an American Muslim in there whom has preached for the murder of gay people. How about going to extremes to start rounding up these thousands on their own lists and attempt to de-radicalize them or keep them locked up cuz quite frankly I don't value their lives as much as the next person who's just trying to go about their day to day life peacefully.

anyone caught whos been fighting overseas (for ISIS that is, not those that are equally as dangerous who have gone to fight for the PKK or other kurdish groups or those claimmg to fight against ISIS) is being dealt with but many will slip through the net.

you cant shut down a mosque until you have enough evidence of a crime, i know it suits small headed people to think that this will be a good solution but the law is the law, and calling for a change in the law will not only apply to mosques but to anything the government agencies deem as a threat. 

attempt to deradicalize someone? how exactly...showing them movies of princess diana and the queen growing up perhaps?

 

what i find so scary about people is how they can change in fear and abandon all so called values.

some of the measures people are calling for were implemented by the nazi regime and mind you not just for jews..although jews were the apparent target but the law allowed for anyone falling under that category. the same we have here...people thinking a law will just apply to muslims when all other minorities or anyone will potentially be the main targets of said laws. 

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It's not 'fakenews' per se, it is staged though. Which most news interviews are. I guess it's more about placement. Those people were probably already there with their signs and the cameras wanted to make a 'feel good' story with them so they moved them up front were all the cameras could film them.

 

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6 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

It's not 'fakenews' per se, it is staged though. Which most news interviews are. I guess it's more about placement. Those people were probably already there with their signs and the cameras wanted to make a 'feel good' story with them so they moved them up front were all the cameras could film them.

 

No. No. The BBC and mainstream media are bringing in actors and in front of everyone - in broad daylight - are directing and filming fake news.

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1 hour ago, Zizouz said:

No. No. The BBC and mainstream media are bringing in actors and in front of everyone - in broad daylight - are directing and filming fake news.

They'll never get caught, not like everyone has a device that can record and distribute evidence immediately to the world.

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