The Official Manchester United Thread

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[Benicio del Toney]

so we do it a different way. We’ll try to look at young ­players with the potential to develop in the club, which we’re good at, so we’ll stay with that.”

d*ckhead coulda had Sigurdsson 18 months ago for peanuts.

Petrucci is turning 21 in the new season and not even had a sniff of 1st team action, fucking joke.

Sone Aluko is lighting up Scottish football, on Spanish clubs radar but not ours.

Pogba won't get any love so he has to go for his career tbh.

[Guest M12]

So what your saying is the answer to Uniteds problems are sugurdssin and sone aluko. I've heard it all now.

[DRC]

so we do it a different way. We’ll try to look at young ­players with the potential to develop in the club, which we’re good at, so we’ll stay with that.”

Petrucci is turning 21 in the new season and not even had a sniff of 1st team action, f*ck*ng joke.

I don't see that as an issue at the club tbh

Injuries have put him at least a year (probably 2) behind where he should be age-wise.

But he's come on leaps and bound this season receiving plaudits and a call up to the u21s.

He'll get involvement next season/go out on loan - his time soon come.

[FANTA]

That's what we said about Pogba and look what happened there?

These kids have got no chance, SAF is obessed with the class of '92

[Guest M12]

Tbh I don't think he believes they are ready for the pressure. He could have blooded them a lot better tha he has so far. But I don't believe he doesn't rate them based on their ability.

[Benicio del Toney]

So what your saying is the answer to Uniteds problems are sugurdssin and sone aluko. I've heard it all now.

I just think those are 2 VERY good youngsters who will be TOP players in the foreseeable future so this talk about we got our eye on youth is air to me.

I can bring up other examples aswell of young players we let slip through the net, aside from the impending and recent obvious, Possebon is 1 I was sad to see leave as the guy oozed quality.

I think we shoulda gave Lee Martin a run out aswell, he ain't setting lower leagues alight but he was fabulous on our Asian pre season tour few years back, he shoulda been blooded straight afterwards.

Obviously you man know I liked Nicky Ajose who did set the lower league alight, so to me it doesn't matter what you do, Alex knows who he is giving chances to and there is nothing you can do to change that, that is why Pogba has to go.

[Kompressor]

its easy to blood Young players when you have the likes of

Keane

Ince

Bruce

Danish red nosed bloke

Pallister

Irwin

Hughes and Cantona around them, a little harder to do when the squad and team you have to supplement and act as a buffer to the younger guys isn't what you'd want it to be,

Yes these guys shouldve been blooded more in the carling cup, but apart from that i don't see where they should've featured more, apart from appearences on the bench.

saying Petrucci should've had his chance already is a madness as already stated his injuries have put him behind in terms of development,

saying Fergie is obsessed with the team of 92 is an interesting statement considering theres only two left and

1, Ryan Giggs is well worth a place in the squad and has already contributed in big ways this season and hugely in the past few,

2, the other is Paul Scholes who along with Valencia and arguably Evans has been our best and most consistant performer since January,

[Benicio del Toney]

Appearances from the bench exactly.

Pogba came off the bench and did brilliantly, weren't giving the ball away so why the lack of confidence in him?

He shoulda had a next sub appearance to his tally in 1 of the following games.

Petrucci was doing great in the reserves so include him in the 1st team squad (natural progression no?) and give him a run out when we are up 3-0 or something.

Maybe I'm missing something but that's how clubs used to run, there's no risk and the benefits to the players and clubs are massive.

[Haze-e]

Fam. We are/were in a battle for the title with a team containing Aguero, Tevez, Yaya, Silva etc etc. Sometimes blooding in the youth is not always practical

[Agony]

Fam. We are/were in a battle for the title with a team containing Aguero, Tevez, Yaya, Silva etc etc. Sometimes blooding in the youth is not always practical

[Kompressor]

Wickedest thing is you have half of the fanbase complaining about youth not getting a chance.

And the other half loving the fact that the squad has a good youthful vibe, I.E Smalling, Jones, Rafael, Cleverley and Welbeck.

Also now you have people still moaning us not playing Pogba enough,

However if he featured more and we still found ourselves in the position we're in people would be saying Fergie should've stuck with the experience to see us through.

Results wise in the league, we have over achieved, it's as simple as that really.

Pogba has to wait till the time is right, if he doesn't want to that's fair enough and I'll wish him well,

[Benicio del Toney]

Fam. We are/were in a battle for the title with a team containing Aguero, Tevez, Yaya, Silva etc etc. Sometimes blooding in the youth is not always practical

At 3-0 up with 25 mins to go how can there be a more practical time?

It's just excuses and laziness, so next season we will have to over rely on Giggs and Scholes again.

[Guest M12]

So what your saying is the answer to Uniteds problems are sugurdssin and sone aluko. I've heard it all now.

I just think those are 2 VERY good youngsters who will be TOP players in the foreseeable future so this talk about we got our eye on youth is air to me.

I can bring up other examples aswell of young players we let slip through the net, aside from the impending and recent obvious, Possebon is 1 I was sad to see leave as the guy oozed quality.

I think we shoulda gave Lee Martin a run out aswell, he ain't setting lower leagues alight but he was fabulous on our Asian pre season tour few years back, he shoulda been blooded straight afterwards.

Obviously you man know I liked Nicky Ajose who did set the lower league alight, so to me it doesn't matter what you do, Alex knows who he is giving chances to and there is nothing you can do to change that, that is why Pogba has to go.

Your examples are baffling tbh. Sigurdsson is no better than what we already have. Clevz is a better player now and has more potential. i dont understand what you think he could possibly bring apart from being another sub standard body on the bench. Sone Aluko is another mad one. Our wingers are Valencia, Young and Nani. Hes nowhere near any of them and i doubt he could do a job at most premiership teams let alone united.

If we are going the young route United need players who can realistically push the current 1st team immediately. Hazard, Muniaian, Goetze, Wilshere etc. Not fucking sone aluko. i dont rate hoilett as highly as some guys on here but hes a far better player as well.

The one that still burns me now is ravel morrison, imo hes a better player than pogba and if his head was right he'd be playing by now.

[Guest M12]

LOL i just read nicky ajose as well. he was banging in league 2 and you think that means you deserve a shot in the premiership. christ.

Ajose earned himself a shot at the championship/league 1. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Fam. We are/were in a battle for the title with a team containing Aguero, Tevez, Yaya, Silva etc etc. Sometimes blooding in the youth is not always practical

At 3-0 up with 25 mins to go how can there be a more practical time?

It's just excuses and laziness, so next season we will have to over rely on Giggs and Scholes again.

This, just are looking it from a holisitic view

Been plenty of games we have been cruising or should have been cruising enough to bring them on so they can get confidence to play in more important games

Cuenca, Thiago, Pedro and them man would have never made it here

If Barcelona can blood in youngsters in a league with Real who are much stronger then Man City we should have no excuses

[Guest M12]

Fam. We are/were in a battle for the title with a team containing Aguero, Tevez, Yaya, Silva etc etc. Sometimes blooding in the youth is not always practical

At 3-0 up with 25 mins to go how can there be a more practical time?

It's just excuses and laziness, so next season we will have to over rely on Giggs and Scholes again.

This, just are looking it from a holisitic view

Been plenty of games we have been cruising or should have been cruising enough to bring them on so they can get confidence to play in more important games

Cuenca, Thiago, Pedro and them man would have never made it here

If Barcelona can blood in youngsters in a league with Real who are much stronger then Man City we should have no excuses

of course those guys would have made it here. Especially in the current climate. Everyone always says look at Pique he didnt make it. The guy had rio and vida in front of him who were both arguably the 2 best cbs in the world at the time. Now he'd be walking in.

Spanish league is much easier to blood players in than ours. Their stadiums are nowhere near as hostile and the gap in quality between the top and bottom teams is a lot greater.

[Agony]

Fam. We are/were in a battle for the title with a team containing Aguero, Tevez, Yaya, Silva etc etc. Sometimes blooding in the youth is not always practical

At 3-0 up with 25 mins to go how can there be a more practical time?

It's just excuses and laziness, so next season we will have to over rely on Giggs and Scholes again.

The way we've been playing at times this season(conceding late goals and/or throwing away leads vs Everton, Basel, Blackburn etc.) I don't even feel safe at 3-0 up with 25mins to go

I'd rather see the kids we have go out on loan where they can develop with less pressure and hopefully have a succesful season before they become first team regulars (e.g. Cleverley and Welbeck)

[Benicio del Toney]

But the loan thing don't always work.

You have these players playing with sub standard players in a league where you get no time on the ball, that is not a realistic simulation of life at Man Utd.

The best test is to give them a run out with the 1st team, there you can see how they will fit into your system.

[Agony]

Fam. We are/were in a battle for the title with a team containing Aguero, Tevez, Yaya, Silva etc etc. Sometimes blooding in the youth is not always practical

At 3-0 up with 25 mins to go how can there be a more practical time?

It's just excuses and laziness, so next season we will have to over rely on Giggs and Scholes again.

This, just are looking it from a holisitic view

Been plenty of games we have been cruising or should have been cruising enough to bring them on so they can get confidence to play in more important games

Cuenca, Thiago, Pedro and them man would have never made it here

If Barcelona can blood in youngsters in a league with Real who are much stronger then Man City we should have no excuses

Cause Barca can keep over 70% of the ball and they have an alien that can score 70+ goals in a season and can save them with a hat-trick if anything goes wrong

[Agony]

But the loan thing don't always work.

You have these players playing with sub standard players in a league where you get no time on the ball, that is not a realistic simulation of life at Man Utd.

The best test is to give them a run out with the 1st team, there you can see how they will fit into your system.

That test worked with the Da Silvas and Welbeck and Macheda at first.

But Pogba and Ravel didn't do themselves any favours in the Palace game. I think this game was the beginning of the end for them 2 in terms of Fergie trusting their mentality for important games in the future. I think after this he was gonna keep them in the reserves until the end of the season and then see how they do in pre-seson/on loan next season but unfortunately that won't happen now.

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Ravel was quality when he came on vs palace

Doing everything in the reserves should mean a loan move or chance in the first team

He got neither

Reached a glass ceiling

[O Fenomeno]

Fam. We are/were in a battle for the title with a team containing Aguero, Tevez, Yaya, Silva etc etc. Sometimes blooding in the youth is not always practical

At 3-0 up with 25 mins to go how can there be a more practical time?

It's just excuses and laziness, so next season we will have to over rely on Giggs and Scholes again.

This, just are looking it from a holisitic view

Been plenty of games we have been cruising or should have been cruising enough to bring them on so they can get confidence to play in more important games

Cuenca, Thiago, Pedro and them man would have never made it here

If Barcelona can blood in youngsters in a league with Real who are much stronger then Man City we should have no excuses

of course those guys would have made it here. Especially in the current climate. Everyone always says look at Pique he didnt make it. The guy had rio and vida in front of him who were both arguably the 2 best cbs in the world at the time. Now he'd be walking in.

Spanish league is much easier to blood players in than ours. Their stadiums are nowhere near as hostile and the gap in quality between the top and bottom teams is a lot greater.

[Benicio del Toney]

So what your saying is the answer to Uniteds problems are sugurdssin and sone aluko. I've heard it all now.

I just think those are 2 VERY good youngsters who will be TOP players in the foreseeable future so this talk about we got our eye on youth is air to me.

I can bring up other examples aswell of young players we let slip through the net, aside from the impending and recent obvious, Possebon is 1 I was sad to see leave as the guy oozed quality.

I think we shoulda gave Lee Martin a run out aswell, he ain't setting lower leagues alight but he was fabulous on our Asian pre season tour few years back, he shoulda been blooded straight afterwards.

Obviously you man know I liked Nicky Ajose who did set the lower league alight, so to me it doesn't matter what you do, Alex knows who he is giving chances to and there is nothing you can do to change that, that is why Pogba has to go.

Your examples are baffling tbh. Sigurdsson is no better than what we already have. Clevz is a better player now and has more potential. i dont understand what you think he could possibly bring apart from being another sub standard body on the bench. Sone Aluko is another mad one. Our wingers are Valencia, Young and Nani. Hes nowhere near any of them and i doubt he could do a job at most premiership teams let alone united.

If we are going the young route United need players who can realistically push the current 1st team immediately. Hazard, Muniaian, Goetze, Wilshere etc. Not fucking sone aluko. i dont rate hoilett as highly as some guys on here but hes a far better player as well.

The one that still burns me now is ravel morrison, imo hes a better player than pogba and if his head was right he'd be playing by now.

I'll tell you now, Tom Cleverly ain't fit to lace Gylfi Sigurdssons boots fam.

The glimpses of magic with Swansea should be enough to show you this, I saw the dude when he was at Reading and it was the same if not worse disrespect, he is on another level.

Sone Aluko is more direct than any of the wingers we currently have.

Nani has magic at times granted, but he doesn't have that explosive pace Aluko has, Valencia is a great winger but again if there's no one in the middle taking the chances he creates can he create something for himself out of nothing, he is not generally that type of player.

Young is decent in spurts but his pace ain't explosive and he lacks a trick when things ain't going his way.

The youth is fucked.