The Official Manchester United Thread

[Kompressor]

anyways i'm done with the Rafa spending topic,

as that page you put up showing the in and outs highlights 1 thing amonst others,

the ammount of players he brought in then sold of doesnt exactly represents stabilty and a man who knows what he's doing.

but anyway, i'm done with this for now,

You'll probably come back harping on about how Fergie gets no stick for his transfer dealings the next time he buys someone for a inflated price, after every corner in the media report THAT HE HAS TAKEN A ODD RISK ON A UNKNOWN FOR AN INFLATED PRICE.

Even the reports this morning about how Bebe has been left out the CL squad questions the wisdom of the signing.

and that was this morning

but then again it probably didnt happen

[Kompressor]

Never ending, pointless argument. Fergie has been in the league for twenty + years and built a colossus, to compare a 5 year stint to that is pointless.

/

And I agree every club thinks the media is against them, emotions blind sports fans. But it was quite clear that the media had a disdain for Rafa that seemingly went beyond a general footballing point of view. But, the argument is an irrelevant one, and now he is the manager of Inter Milan.

go on any United forum and i gaurentee you'll get loads of people who think the same about the media in regards to Fergie.

same with a Arsenal Forum in regards to wenger.

but your first comment, i agree with whole heartedly

[n/a]

lol

Did Rafa inherit a squad on a par with the Man Utd squad of 2005?

no the comparison aint fair

but people will be compared on what theyve done, thats how it works especially in the press

and because over the 5 years rafa was here as the figures show he done ok in the market nothin more nothin less

most non biased un connected people will say saf>>rafa in the market

[Kompressor]

If everyone sat down and thought logical and completly neautrally about the way the media report things,

they would admit to themselves that the media do no favour any team or anyone,

with a exception to the likes of Sir Bobby Robson who everyone in the media adored and rightly so.

i remember people used to think the media was against Beckham from after the 98 world cup right up untioll he left,

and then when it all turned round for him publicly some people said it was coz he wasn't at United anymore so the media could like him.

People always felt the media were against Cantona,

People said it was a vendetta that Cole never gotta proper chance for England,

people said the media hype surrounding Yorke and Jordan was only stirred up to try to derail United.

People said Rio wouldnt of got such a huge ban if he wasn't at United. due to a city player failing a test a few weeks earlier and getting a smaller ban,

same with Cantona's ban.

Roy Keane was always getting picked on aswell.

[The Infamous]

Bebe is a shoot

[Mr Q]

lol @ logic and sport, would take away a lot of passion. IMO

[Kompressor]

lol @ logic and sport, would take away a lot of passion. IMO

Yeah i see what your saying and agree,

but its overly stupid when some peoples odd oppinions leave the arena of banter and passion-filled outbursts

and try to take on the form of an intelligent debate.

passion is all well and good, but whats riddiculous will always be riddiculous.

[Gambino]

United to sign Ninis

[Kompressor]

we was linked with him a couple years back aswell, whats his improvement been like since then, cant say i remember seeing him play since we were first linked.

[TF S4DK]

Lol. The Rafa spending argument is hard becuase a lot of the times Rafa was complaining about transfers & money, he was trying to tell another story, which was about the owners, but people use to look at the comments and reflect on what he has spent and say well he has spent a lot of money. Nobody, well the press dont care about net spend, the Martin O'Neill situation confirmed this for me.

Thats why I rate Fergie cos he got no p now, he just uses the book of excuses by A. Wenger.

Meanwhile Rafa's arguments at times were just random. Its understandable cos he was duped by the Yanks but even then he still seemed like any stuck in the mud guy.

[Flojo]

lol

Did Rafa inherit a squad on a par with the Man Utd squad of 2005?

no the comparison aint fair

but people will be compared on what theyve done, thats how it works especially in the press

and because over the 5 years rafa was here as the figures show he done ok in the market nothin more nothin less

most non biased un connected people will say saf>>rafa in the market

He did better than ok imo, he had to sell to buy and upgraded the quality of the squad in the process.

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Kompressor Beckham was vilified because he got needlessly sent off in a WC and England got knocked out

Cantona jumped into the crowd and fly kicked someone in the chest

Dwight Yorke had a baby to the most famous slag in the country and abandoned the child

Rio Ferdinand missed a drugs test and is still the only high profile player to do so?

lol all those are valid reasons for the responses they got and anyone who argues otherwise is having a laugh.

i could go on but it's long.

[Guest Blue State Of Mind]

Real talk i can't respect any United supporters from the ages of 16-25 who live outside Manchester

who do u support fella

Liverpool and my local team Milwall.

[Guest Blue State Of Mind]

Real talk i can't respect any United supporters from the ages of 16-25 who live outside Manchester

why those ages?

Why not just make it a opened bracet thing?

say from 2 months old to 83 years old,

or is it that before the ages of 16 the supporters tend to be die hard and passion-filled,

and on their 16th b-day theres some horrendous transformation, like Kevin in Harry Enfield?

and whats up with the 25 thing, is that the age that you've discovered most of the glory hunters either start actually really supporting the club or do they bugger of and start supporting Chelsea,

Pray tell all.

Nah the supporters of them ages grew up seeing United win, which is the only reason why they started supporting them in the first place. Thats why i can't respect them, because there loyalty has never been tested they have been lucky to support a team that has been the most successful in England and possibly Europe since they first started watching football.

Ok so your saying it isn't possible for a Manchester United supporter between them ages who doesn't live from within the manchester city border to be anything other than a glory hunter?

hmm ok,

as i lived nearly half of my life in Manchester and just over half of it in London i can honestly say there are just as many glory hunting fans from within Manchester as there are from outside,

same with real fans,

stop being silly.

if these fans were Glory Hunters they wouldve went of and supported Chelsea during the Jose years,

and woulde gone back to West London last season.

every club has its plastic supporters.

if you got arund the country abit more, you'd realise location and geography has nothing to do with the love for your club,

You could live in Whalley Range and be a glory Hunter, same way you could live in Thailand and be a die hard,

I regulary travel up to FC United games with people from Muswell Hill and East London they've never lived in Manchester are they Glory Hunters?

At the end of the day you started supporting United when you saw them dominating Europe.

And your point about Chelsea makes no sense because even while Chelsea were spending big money, United were still finishing in 1st or 2nd place, you were never away from the Top 2.

I never said nothing about location mate i'm a Londoner who supports Liverpool, but the honest truth is that alot of United supporters in the South are glory hunters, or at least started supporting the club as glory hunters before forming an affinty with it.

[Guest haze-e]

Real talk i can't respect any United supporters from the ages of 16-25 who live outside Manchester

who do u support fella

Liverpool and my local team Milwall.

Lool. The Irony...

[The King]

Real talk i can't respect any United supporters from the ages of 16-25 who live outside Manchester

who do u support fella

Liverpool and my local team Milwall.

Lool. The Irony...

LOL

[BATTY BOY BUM BANDIT]

And he called kompressor a glory hunter

Shet don't have it son

*awaits 8 paragraph response*

[Young £]

fools get banned.

just putting it out there

[HangTheDJ]

[Mr Q]

[Kompressor]

Real talk i can't respect any United supporters from the ages of 16-25 who live outside Manchester

why those ages?

Why not just make it a opened bracet thing?

say from 2 months old to 83 years old, or is it that before the ages of 16 the supporters tend to be die hard and passion-filled,

and on their 16th b-day theres some horrendous transformation, like Kevin in Harry Enfield?

and whats up with the 25 thing, is that the age that you've discovered most of the glory hunters either start actually really supporting the club or do they bugger of and start supporting Chelsea, Pray tell all.

Nah the supporters of them ages grew up seeing United win, which is the only reason why they started supporting them in the first place. Thats why i can't respect them, because there loyalty has never been tested they have been lucky to support a team that has been the most successful in England and possibly Europe since they first started watching football.

Ok so your saying it isn't possible for a Manchester United supporter between them ages who doesn't live from within the manchester city border to be anything other than a glory hunter?

hmm ok, as i lived nearly half of my life in Manchester and just over half of it in London i can honestly say there are just as many glory hunting fans from within Manchester as there are from outside, same with real fans, stop being silly.

if these fans were Glory Hunters they wouldve went of and supported Chelsea during the Jose years,

and woulde gone back to West London last season. every club has its plastic supporters.

if you got arund the country abit more, you'd realise location and geography has nothing to do with the love for your club,

You could live in Whalley Range and be a glory Hunter, same way you could live in Thailand and be a die hard, I regulary travel up to FC United games with people from Muswell Hill and East London they've never lived in Manchester are they Glory Hunters?

At the end of the day you started supporting United when you saw them dominating Europe.

And your point about Chelsea makes no sense because even while Chelsea were spending big money, United were still finishing in 1st or 2nd place, you were never away from the Top 2.

I never said nothing about location mate i'm a Londoner who supports Liverpool, but the honest truth is that alot of United supporters in the South are glory hunters, or at least started supporting the club as glory hunters before forming an affinty with it.

Ok, so would you class all Liverpool fans of a certain generation as glory hunters then?

And Lol at me starting supporting United when we were dominating Europe. You plum,

I went to my 1st game at OT in 1995, when we wern't even Champions of England, My first year holding a season ticket was when Arsenal won the league in 98, And now despite the unrivalled success, im now exploring the art of glory hunting in the Evo-stick premier league, watching Fc United play the likes of Micleover, Matlock and Buxton, f*ck off about glory Hunting you tit,

Like i wasn't offered tickets to the final in Moscow by 3 different people but refused on principle,

And i was offered a ticket for the final in Rome, but again refused, out of principle.

And then you come with the fact you support Liverpool but are from south east London, you d*ck, i lived in Manchester till i was 11. And have an "affinity" whats your affinity with the city of Liverpool? The fact that you spit when you talk?

[Gambino]

BeBe is included in Uniteds European Squad.

[Guest Blue State Of Mind]

Real talk i can't respect any United supporters from the ages of 16-25 who live outside Manchester

who do u support fella

Liverpool and my local team Milwall.

Lool. The Irony...

Whats the irony, did you even follow football in the 90's.

Liverpool were fluctuating between 4th-8th place, many a time we never even made the champions league, especially in the Roy Evans era.

So your point is stupid to say the least, if you were glory hunting in the 90's you wouldn't chose Liverpool as the team to support rather Arsenal or United.

[BATTY BOY BUM BANDIT]

Swear this guy is thick.

[Guest Blue State Of Mind]

Real talk i can't respect any United supporters from the ages of 16-25 who live outside Manchester

why those ages?

Why not just make it a opened bracet thing?

say from 2 months old to 83 years old, or is it that before the ages of 16 the supporters tend to be die hard and passion-filled,

and on their 16th b-day theres some horrendous transformation, like Kevin in Harry Enfield?

and whats up with the 25 thing, is that the age that you've discovered most of the glory hunters either start actually really supporting the club or do they bugger of and start supporting Chelsea, Pray tell all.

Nah the supporters of them ages grew up seeing United win, which is the only reason why they started supporting them in the first place. Thats why i can't respect them, because there loyalty has never been tested they have been lucky to support a team that has been the most successful in England and possibly Europe since they first started watching football.

Ok so your saying it isn't possible for a Manchester United supporter between them ages who doesn't live from within the manchester city border to be anything other than a glory hunter?

hmm ok, as i lived nearly half of my life in Manchester and just over half of it in London i can honestly say there are just as many glory hunting fans from within Manchester as there are from outside, same with real fans, stop being silly.

if these fans were Glory Hunters they wouldve went of and supported Chelsea during the Jose years,

and woulde gone back to West London last season. every club has its plastic supporters.

if you got arund the country abit more, you'd realise location and geography has nothing to do with the love for your club,

You could live in Whalley Range and be a glory Hunter, same way you could live in Thailand and be a die hard, I regulary travel up to FC United games with people from Muswell Hill and East London they've never lived in Manchester are they Glory Hunters?

At the end of the day you started supporting United when you saw them dominating Europe.

And your point about Chelsea makes no sense because even while Chelsea were spending big money, United were still finishing in 1st or 2nd place, you were never away from the Top 2.

I never said nothing about location mate i'm a Londoner who supports Liverpool, but the honest truth is that alot of United supporters in the South are glory hunters, or at least started supporting the club as glory hunters before forming an affinty with it.

Ok, so would you class all Liverpool fans of a certain generation as glory hunters then?

And Lol at me starting supporting United when we were dominating Europe. You plum,

I went to my 1st game at OT in 1995, when we wern't even Champions of England, My first year holding a season ticket was when Arsenal won the league in 98, And now despite the unrivalled success, im now exploring the art of glory hunting in the Evo-stick premier league, watching Fc United play the likes of Micleover, Matlock and Buxton, f*ck off about glory Hunting you tit,

Like i wasn't offered tickets to the final in Moscow by 3 different people but refused on principle,

And i was offered a ticket for the final in Rome, but again refused, out of principle.

And then you come with the fact you support Liverpool but are from south east London, you d*ck, i lived in Manchester till i was 11. And have an "affinity" whats your affinity with the city of Liverpool? The fact that you spit when you talk?

Yes of course alot of fans who grew up in the era where Liverpool were winning everything left right and centre were glory huntes.

And i said England and later Europe, Man Uniteds era of domination started in 93, from then onwards you were consitently finishing in the top 2 or winning the league.

Lol and i said my local team is Millwall alot of the times i'm going to watch games in the den. I started supporting Liverpool from young, my uncle and my dad supported them so it was the natural choice for me to choose, Them times there we were just coming out of the Graeme Souness era, and we were struggling to compete with the likes of United, i never got to see the Liverpool having major success .

Certain man are glory hunters and will lie that they lived in Manchester, when the truth is they saw a team that was dominating in England and jumped on the bandwagon.

[Guest Blue State Of Mind]

Swear this guy is thick.

^Touched a nerve.