bay_u Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Jin says it best when"overnight acts just wanna top the charts, no intentions to contribute to the art"in reference to Souljah Boybut saying thatsoulja boy is not the first to do thati dont even think he is doin that intentionallyhe is HH whether ppl like it or notyeah i know he aint the 1st, i was sayin since he was in subject.IMO he aint hip-hop, but i aint knockin his hustle. his songs are positive and kids seem to like it, thats a good thing.better to crank that than "ill kill a nigga in his sleep" right.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Rather my kids listened to music which took talent to make rather than about Bussing on sum girl, and throwing her across the room... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Teddy Riley Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 some people are concerned with qualitywhile othersare notWhat a redundant comment.what are u talking about?you're just shallow, and you are tryin to defend ittalkin about what souljah boy has done for hiphopwhat he has done is contributed to dumbing it downeven if he went platinum, doesnt mean hes good it jus means that shallow people like yourself are in the majoritycongratsLMFAO. First & foremost, put the catcher's mitt down. Don't take none of this sh*t per-son-al, it's just co-me-dy.Secondly, it was a redundant comment because like I mentioned earlier in this thread.Lyricaly content doesn't necessarily equate to quality which is obviously what you believe. You then countered my statement with this.''Some people are concerned with quality, etc.''Now, again, think about it. Not much of a logical response. And yes, I call it a response because it was evidently aimed at me. Now, I don't understand where this 'shallow' talk is coming from. I dunno, maybe you still hurting over a e-jab I must've gave you weeks ago but it doesn't take a genius to know that in Hip-Hop aswell as other genres, there are more complex artists and there are some not-so complex artists.It doesn't mean that the more complex artists is automatically better than another. Oh, quote where I said Soulja Boy was better than anybody. If you can find such statement, I'll upgrade you from a ferret to a badger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Remy Lebeau Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Jin says it best when"overnight acts just wanna top the charts, no intentions to contribute to the art"in reference to Souljah Boybut saying thatsoulja boy is not the first to do thati dont even think he is doin that intentionallyhe is HH whether ppl like it or notyeah i know he aint the 1st, i was sayin since he was in subject.IMO he aint hip-hop, but i aint knockin his hustle. his songs are positive and kids seem to like it, thats a good thing.better to crank that than "ill kill a nigga in his sleep" right.... that is very trueand one of the reasons ive kinda grown to dislike HH maybe im going to far but if soulja boy was saying something to the effect of'ill buss a nigga in his head'ppl wouldnt have as much of problem with him as they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Teddy Riley Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 WTFSoulja Boy is 17. It just so happened that he was a small regional success that ALOT of KIDS liked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Radio Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Jin says it best when"overnight acts just wanna top the charts, no intentions to contribute to the art"in reference to Souljah Boybut saying thatsoulja boy is not the first to do thati dont even think he is doin that intentionallyhe is HH whether ppl like it or notyeah i know he aint the 1st, i was sayin since he was in subject.IMO he aint hip-hop, but i aint knockin his hustle. his songs are positive and kids seem to like it, thats a good thing.better to crank that than "ill kill a nigga in his sleep" right.... that is very trueand one of the reasons ive kinda grown to dislike HH maybe im going to far but if soulja boy was saying something to the effect of'ill buss a nigga in his head'ppl wouldnt have as much of problem with him as they donah your right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SKYSCRAPER Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Rap music.I'm including grime in that.Music is just music though, if something's good I don't give a f*ck about genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurious Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 sometimes its cool 2 just listen to sum jazz u no just listening to the melodies/symphony, with no distraction of a voiceits like, u understand what the musician is trying to say, but u can make up ur own lyrics/words so that the emotions are more personal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubez II Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 sometimes its cool 2 just listen to sum jazz u no just listening to the melodies/symphony, with no distraction of a voiceits like, u understand what the musician is trying to say, but u can make up ur own lyrics/words so that the emotions are more personalKudos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbmc Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 garage, and all it's sub-genres/spin offsI f*ck*ng hate ppl that try take the piss out of garage but listen to Dubstep f*ck*ng ignorant pricks.Garage and dubstep sound nothing alike, there maybe roots there but when it comes to sounding alike, their far from it. I dont really like garage but love dubstep so....u can recognise that dubstep has its roots in UK Garage tho? Listen to anything by Groove Chronicles or Zed Bias and u can hear its beginnings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero001 Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 garage, and all it's sub-genres/spin offsI f*ck*ng hate ppl that try take the piss out of garage but listen to Dubstep f*ck*ng ignorant pricks.Garage and dubstep sound nothing alike, there maybe roots there but when it comes to sounding alike, their far from it. I dont really like garage but love dubstep so....u can recognise that dubstep has its roots in UK Garage tho? Listen to anything by Groove Chronicles or Zed Bias and u can hear its beginningsDubstep more sounds like slow Jungle to me. And its roots are in Dub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SKYSCRAPER Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 garage, and all it's sub-genres/spin offsI f*ck*ng hate ppl that try take the piss out of garage but listen to Dubstep f*ck*ng ignorant pricks.Garage and dubstep sound nothing alike, there maybe roots there but when it comes to sounding alike, their far from it. I dont really like garage but love dubstep so....u can recognise that dubstep has its roots in UK Garage tho? Listen to anything by Groove Chronicles or Zed Bias and u can hear its beginningsDubstep more sounds like slow Jungle to me. And its roots are in DubThat's a load of bollocks tbh.It stems directly from garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardissimo Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Grimeeverything altho im listening to other things increasingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero001 Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 garage, and all it's sub-genres/spin offsI f*ck*ng hate ppl that try take the piss out of garage but listen to Dubstep f*ck*ng ignorant pricks.Garage and dubstep sound nothing alike, there maybe roots there but when it comes to sounding alike, their far from it. I dont really like garage but love dubstep so....u can recognise that dubstep has its roots in UK Garage tho? Listen to anything by Groove Chronicles or Zed Bias and u can hear its beginningsDubstep more sounds like slow Jungle to me. And its roots are in DubThat's a load of bollocks tbh.It stems directly from garage.I said to me, but you could be right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbmc Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 garage, and all it's sub-genres/spin offsI f*ck*ng hate ppl that try take the piss out of garage but listen to Dubstep f*ck*ng ignorant pricks.Garage and dubstep sound nothing alike, there maybe roots there but when it comes to sounding alike, their far from it. I dont really like garage but love dubstep so....u can recognise that dubstep has its roots in UK Garage tho? Listen to anything by Groove Chronicles or Zed Bias and u can hear its beginningsDubstep more sounds like slow Jungle to me. And its roots are in DubALL Dance music has its roots in Dub, Dubstep came directly from UK Garage and didn't start to use the dub and reggae influences so blatantly until a few years back, i remember downloading Hatcha sets from Big Apple with artists like Menta and DND being blended together with sum guy from Stonecold GX on the Mic - i could play u any number of old garage tunes that sound just like Dubstep and would be classed as dubstep if u replaced that 2-step shuffle with a half step beat. El-B even said "i don't agree with the name Dubstep, what i'm doing now is just a continuation of what i started 5 or 6 years ago". Dubstep diversified immensly after the rave side of grime died off and bare producers and djs jumped ship. Yeah some of it sounds like slow jungle a lot of garage sounded like slow DnB I'm not saying Dubstep came soley from UK Garage but it's roots are placed firmly in that scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero001 Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 garage, and all it's sub-genres/spin offsI f*ck*ng hate ppl that try take the piss out of garage but listen to Dubstep f*ck*ng ignorant pricks.Garage and dubstep sound nothing alike, there maybe roots there but when it comes to sounding alike, their far from it. I dont really like garage but love dubstep so....u can recognise that dubstep has its roots in UK Garage tho? Listen to anything by Groove Chronicles or Zed Bias and u can hear its beginningsDubstep more sounds like slow Jungle to me. And its roots are in DubALL Dance music has its roots in Dub, Dubstep came directly from UK Garage and didn't start to use the dub and reggae influences so blatantly until a few years back, i remember downloading Hatcha sets from Big Apple with artists like Menta and DND being blended together with sum guy from Stonecold GX on the Mic - i could play u any number of old garage tunes that sound just like Dubstep and would be classed as dubstep if u replaced that 2-step shuffle with a half step beat. El-B even said "i don't agree with the name Dubstep, what i'm doing now is just a continuation of what i started 5 or 6 years ago". Dubstep diversified immensly after the rave side of grime died off and bare producers and djs jumped ship. Yeah some of it sounds like slow jungle a lot of garage sounded like slow DnB I'm not saying Dubstep came soley from UK Garage but it's roots are placed firmly in that scene.Oh seen. Safe for that, but at least you could see where I was coming from, unlike other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstition Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 I love so many genres, it's difficult to pick one above others. But I do have to rep for hip-hop. Mostly a sentimental choice, because it was my first musical love, it enraptured me at an impressionable age, and made me aware of music's endless possibilities. At its best, it has unparalleled impact and force. I love its capacity for incredibly inventive and daring lyricism, married with creative and innovative composition. From its birth in oppressed communities through a subversion of existing culture, the facility for empowerment, enlightenment and enfranchisement are woven into it. Maybe I'm overstating it, but it is easy to argue that hip-hop is unprecedented in its dissolution of language, nationality, culture, class and gender. It's a vehicle for the expression of poetry, reflection, rhythm, aggression, lust, humour, wit, insight, intelligence, ignorance, pain and hate, unity and love, and everything in between. It could be said that other music have all of these capacities, but none with such power and immediacy. That's why I love it, and no matter how disillusioned I get at its current permutation, no matter how many months/years I spend listening to other genres... I'll never give up on it, and I'll always come back to it. Because I know all of the above can't and won't die. sometimes its cool 2 just listen to sum jazz u no just listening to the melodies/symphony, with no distraction of a voiceits like, u understand what the musician is trying to say, but u can make up ur own lyrics/words so that the emotions are more personalThis reminds me of a Miles Davis quote I read once. He was asked why he never has singers accompany his ballads with vocals. He said something along the lines of "Why would I tell the people what to feel? Let them make their own words". (or something. It was more profound and cool when he said it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEAK NO EVIL Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 I love so many genres, it's difficult to pick one above others. But I do have to rep for hip-hop. Mostly a sentimental choice, because it was my first musical love, it enraptured me at an impressionable age, and made me aware of music's endless possibilities. At its best, it has unparalleled impact and force. I love its capacity for incredibly inventive and daring lyricism, married with creative and innovative composition. From its birth in oppressed communities through a subversion of existing culture, the facility for empowerment, enlightenment and enfranchisement are woven into it. Maybe I'm overstating it, but it is easy to argue that hip-hop is unprecedented in its dissolution of language, nationality, culture, class and gender. It's a vehicle for the expression of poetry, reflection, rhythm, aggression, lust, humour, wit, insight, intelligence, ignorance, pain and hate, unity and love, and everything in between. It could be said that other music have all of these capacities, but none with such power and immediacy. That's why I love it, and no matter how disillusioned I get at its current permutation, no matter how many months/years I spend listening to other genres... I'll never give up on it, and I'll always come back to it. Because I know all of the above can't and won't die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creamy Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 I love so many genres, it's difficult to pick one above others. But I do have to rep for hip-hop. Mostly a sentimental choice, because it was my first musical love, it enraptured me at an impressionable age, and made me aware of music's endless possibilities. At its best, it has unparalleled impact and force. I love its capacity for incredibly inventive and daring lyricism, married with creative and innovative composition. From its birth in oppressed communities through a subversion of existing culture, the facility for empowerment, enlightenment and enfranchisement are woven into it. Maybe I'm overstating it, but it is easy to argue that hip-hop is unprecedented in its dissolution of language, nationality, culture, class and gender. It's a vehicle for the expression of poetry, reflection, rhythm, aggression, lust, humour, wit, insight, intelligence, ignorance, pain and hate, unity and love, and everything in between. It could be said that other music have all of these capacities, but none with such power and immediacy. That's why I love it, and no matter how disillusioned I get at its current permutation, no matter how many months/years I spend listening to other genres... I'll never give up on it, and I'll always come back to it. Because I know all of the above can't and won't die.f*ck*ng mans gotta tear in his eye right nowi'd like to add... Hip Hop is like the Blues to me, the modern day equivalent. yeah i like to see the latest Kanye video but really it doesnt get any better than seeing that young hungry MC jus standing on the block spitting his heart out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearless-Guy Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 does anyone else have a feeling superstition might be a writer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubby Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 sometimes its cool 2 just listen to sum jazz u no just listening to the melodies/symphony, with no distraction of a voiceits like, u understand what the musician is trying to say, but u can make up ur own lyrics/words so that the emotions are more personalKudos.yeah, jazz is the shiznit, specially latin stuff >>>>>> _______ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafter Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 does anyone else have a feeling superstition might be a writerhe should be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEAK NO EVIL Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 does anyone else have a feeling superstition might be a writerhe should be...na, prob just one of them all round geniuses not even interested in writing imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soca Junkie Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Soca/calypso... it just makes me feel alive. Like I could be so depressed but put on a bit of ''tinnnnnny winnnnneeey'' and I'm grinding on a wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxx Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Grime.Listened to it from before i can remember, the hype is sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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