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[The Somalian]

Well I remember city and islington running weekly courses which ran 6 months learning certain coded languages might jump back on that wave

[Mr. Martinez]

Firstly, learning it completely is something that you will never achieve even if you lived for a thousand years.

 

Secondly, extremely high expert level is available to anyone that wants to learn, and for free.

 

Thirdly, 3 months will get you to the standard whereby you can call yourself a junior front end developer and get that job. 

 

It might not be a facebook, or the most amazing, interesting start-up in the world but, there are plenty of places in need right now and willing to give those people with the right attitude a chance.

[Mr. Martinez]

BTW for those really interested. The landscape is ever-changing.

 

backend and frontend is becoming increasingly interlinked.

 

as our browsers become more and more powerful, we won't be browsing websites, but rather webapps.

 

the opportunities are endless.

 

get involved.

 

trust me.

[dom dom bullets]

so you reckon start with that chris pine book yeah? btw im not really looking to become a programmer, I just want to have some ability in that area.

[Mr. Martinez]

i would recommend but if you don't want to become a programmer, than I would ask, what do you want to do?

 

If you're a marketeer wishing to gain some html/css/js skills to tie in with your current job - i wouldn't recommend it for example

[dom dom bullets]

It's not really for my CV. I just like to learn random skills during my spare time, eg foreign languages. I reckon learning at least the basics of coding etc will no doubt become ever more useful as computers are a part of everything now, or is it just a waste of time if I'm not looking to go down the career route?

[imhim]

WHATS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FRONT OFFICE/END AND BACK OFFICE/END PROGRAMMING

 

ARE THEY DOING THE SAME JOB?

 

IS FRONT END DEALING WITH THE FACE OF THE PRODUCT ETC? AND BACK IS DEALING WITH THE INTERNAL OF IT?

[Mr. Martinez]

Definitely not a waste of time

 

In my slightly biased opinion, I would say learning to code is as beneficial - if not more - as a self-improvement skill than learning a new language.

 

Our current world, the logical thinking it encourages, etc

 

do it, and definitely start with the book I posted

[dom dom bullets]

safe

[dub]

Learning to program is learning how to solve problems.

Principles of programming can be applied to the way most things should work. Its why you see a lot of consultancy firms seeking people with Computer Science degrees.

 

As Carlos says, HTML/CSS won't really help elsewhere (outside of web) but I'd say JS can, though its more commonly used for lower level interface stuff. But go for a programming language - Ruby or Python as Carlos recommends, but I'd recommend Java personally.

 

And yeah, there's no point in setting out to master a language, just work out what you want to do - find out what language is best for it, and work towards that. When people ask for "X years of experience" in something it can often include years of doing your own projects.

[Benicio del Toney]

It's not really for my CV. I just like to learn random skills during my spare time, eg foreign languages. I reckon learning at least the basics of coding etc will no doubt become ever more useful as computers are a part of everything now, or is it just a waste of time if I'm not looking to go down the career route?

 

As Carlos said depends what you wanna do, I've saved a shitload of money picking up bits of html css and php.

 

I hired some Pakistani's on Elance to add extra functionality, variables and scripts on a WP blog I have, I didn't have the desire or patience to learn what I needed to do it myself but because I knew the possibilities I more or less completely designed it and just told them to do it.

 

Defo useful knowing how they work regardless.

[Mr. Martinez]

I hold Java solely responsible for my late entry into this game

 

I remember being much younger and thinking aight cool - Java's where it's at - let me learn this sh*t

 

I gave up after a week thinking only geniuses could learn it

 

the first page of the book I posted hits the nail on the head

 

 

 

JAVA EXAMPLE =

 

 

 

public class HelloWorld {
  public static void main(String []args) {
    System.out.println("Hello World");
  }
}

 

RUBY SAME EXACT THING

 

 

 

puts 'Hello World'

 

 

 

That's not to say you can't start with Java - and if you did, you won't be successful. You're just a much smarter person than I ever will be if that's how you roll..

[dom dom bullets]

safe guise, will look into more in a few months

[imhim]

visual basic... faaak remember using that... used that for like a few days... deleted it

[Horatio Caine]

think of it like this, learn coding, get urself a great programming job then make a app for the iphone without paying some1 to code it for u etc....

[Guest chap44uns]

And then...

[Horatio Caine]

 and then.........

 

 

.....or better yet

[time_bomb]

hmm really i should jump on this, sport is too unstable

[Seymour Cake]

Can someone point me to some beginners learning tutorials or classes or something

[Supermalt]

If you're a marketeer wishing to gain some html/css/js skills to tie in with your current job - i wouldn't recommend it for example

 

but if u are then what?

[dub]

go for a programming language (python etc) and not a markup (html) or style (css) language

 

 

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apparently the whole Summily story is just good marketing - investors found out this kid was making a news app and bought it+him then bought in the technology from elsewhere and just put the kid as the face of the company and the shit paid off

 

god knows what Yahoo are doing acquiring and simply shutting it down though

[Horatio Caine]

[Mr. Martinez]

Sorry - What I meant is that if you wanted to improve your marketing skillset, object-orientated programming isn't going to be of much direct help. 

 

IMO - You'd be better off going to http:///www.codeacademy.com and learning the HTML/CSS/JS basics there, to help you build better e-mails, create landing pages, understand what your front-end guy is talking about etc.

 

Seymour - If you do want to learn programming, the book - Learn to Program by Chris Pine is amazing. Code Academy is also good to start learning anything and everything.

 

Personally I thought about something I would enjoy making it, and made it. Didn't even finish it  (I WILL THOUGH) but it got me to a standard whereby I was able to blag a job.

 

 

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go for a programming language (python etc) and not a markup (html) or style (css) language

 

 

/

 

apparently the whole Summily story is just good marketing - investors found out this kid was making a news app and bought it+him then bought in the technology from elsewhere and just put the kid as the face of the company and the sh*t paid off

 

god knows what Yahoo are doing acquiring and simply shutting it down though

 

 

Kid received 200k investment in like 2011. 

 

His dad's an investment banker. A venture capitalist put the 200 bags down back then.

 

Course it's a marketing ploy. 

[Guest chap44uns]

hmm really i should jump on this, sport is too unstable

 

see this is the problem

 

you should only be jumping on something like this if your hearts completly in it

 

those looking to make a quick buck will end up giving up half way