Guest Klitschko Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I don't think the Nasri problem is wages though. The Nasri problem is Nasri wants to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kane Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I rather have a star who's right for the team i.e. Benzema, than any ol' star.Even when we signed Bergkamp, it was necessary because at the time, we lacked guile, creativity, etc.The qualities that Mata will bring, we already have in abundance. Mata >>> Gervinho, Arshavin, WalcottI wouldn't say we have it in abundance to be honest. It would add depth to our attack which got exposed in the later stages of last season.If we can't even keep Nasri because of wages I don't see us getting Benzema.Do you not understand this?And he'd be marginalized on the flanks anyway, he isn't a winger at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Not sure why at the moment were not concentrating on building the defence....The ONE area in which were severely lacking Its a joke and im completely baffled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp* Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 We will probably sign Cahill for 15m on the last day of the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Anyhow we allow Samba to slip through.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 samba would be perfect for arsenal....leadership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Not sure why at the moment were not concentrating on building the defence....The ONE area in which were severely lacking Its a joke and im completely baffledThis is what i've been saying, which is why Gervinho to me just seems like some smoke screen signing.End of the day you can have all the fire power and attacking option in the world but if your defence is sh*t then its meaningless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Awesome Kong Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I get why we're signing attackers, imo we only need a replacement for Nasri. But I agree, we need Samba signed up asap. Bun this Cahill hype though, if we sign him and we do sh*t I will laugh at all the hype just because he's English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I don't think the Nasri problem is wages though. The Nasri problem is Nasri wants to leave.Its wages, the toxic of Fabregas remaining, and the failure to win the Carling Cup.Too many players talking and not doing what they paid to do, play football and win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJibbles Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Too many players talking and not doing what they paid to do, play football and win.C/S to the max! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Not sure why at the moment were not concentrating on building the defence....The ONE area in which were severely lacking Its a joke and im completely baffledWenger wants Prem based or Sakho.He ain't getting Sakho and the only guy on his Prem list that he really wanted was Phil Jones.He'd gladly take Jagielka & Baines, but Moyes would bump him on either and it would be one or the other at best.So now he looking at...Chris Samba - probably happy to pay his wages, but Blackburn will fight not to lose him after selling Jones and bump us on the fee, and he has no resale value.Gary Cahill - Wenger would probably pay his stupid 17m release, but Cahill apparently wants to be paid like a 17m player and their are question marks over his ability.Scott Dann - injury problem, high fee, high wage demands, just got relegated.Basically he ain't convinced on none of them. Amazed he hasn't just said f*ck it I'll work with Bartley... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp* Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Cant wait the see Squillaci in the first team when the inevitable injuries come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 If we don't cop a CB and he drops vermaleen is like a new signing (i swear hes dropped this already) I'm gonna be PISSED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 If we don't cop a CB and he drops vermaleen is like a new signing (i swear hes dropped this already) I'm gonna be PISSEDdropped it in his latest interview didnt he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF Cunt Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 i honestly think if nothing else we getting a new cb tbh even if its a lastminute.com ting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Arsene Wenger says that Gael Clichy’s departure to Manchester City has opened the door for England international Kieran Gibbs.Many Arsenal fans were expecting a left back to be added to the shopping list after the experienced Frenchman was sold earlier this week for around £7m, but when pressed on the reason for the sale, Wenger told Arsenal Player, “The reasoning is that Kieran Gibbs at some stage has to get a chance to play. And Gael had only one year to go.“I rate Gael very highly but I rate highly as well Kieran Gibbs, and he is now at an age where he has to play. And that’s the main reason behind that, to give Gibbs a chance”.Gibbs injury problems have hampered his progress, and relying on him as first choice left back would be seen as something of a gamble for an Arsenal squad which has more injuries per season than your average earthquake.With Arsenal in need of at least one centre-half, and possible replacements for Cesc and Nasri, it remains to be seen if a left back is considered a priority and included in the “one or two” players Wenger hopes to bring in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 arseblogJULY 9, 2011 AT 12:53 PMA fair few youngsters missing. No Lansbury, JET, Eastmond.Bartley has told Arsenal he wants to go back to Rangers next season, so that might be having a bearing on things.(In response to his omission of the Asian tour squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 ARSENAL INVITE LUKIC ON TRIALPublished on July 10th, 2011Arsenal have stepped up their interest in Lokomotiv Plovdiv winger Nenad Lukić by offering him a trial.The 18-year-old left winger was watched by Arsenal during Serbia’s Under 19 qualifying fixtures, where he scored six goals. Manchester United and Chelsea were also there, as were Olympiakos and Hoffenheim. However, Arsène Wenger has made the first move.Lukić has been invited for a trial at London Colney, with a view to a possible a transfer. It’s not yet clear whether the player will accept the offer or wait and see if Arsenal firm up their interest with an offer, but the race for the youngster is hotting up.Nenad currently plys his trade for Plovdiv after moving from Partizan Belgrade last season. A pacy, skillful and creative winger, the exciting wide-man is rated as one of Serbia’s brightest prospects.http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2011/07/arsenal-invite-lukic-on-trial/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TF S4DK Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Arsene Wenger says that Gael Clichy’s departure to Manchester City has opened the door for England international Kieran Gibbs.Many Arsenal fans were expecting a left back to be added to the shopping list after the experienced Frenchman was sold earlier this week for around £7m, but when pressed on the reason for the sale, Wenger told Arsenal Player, “The reasoning is that Kieran Gibbs at some stage has to get a chance to play. And Gael had only one year to go.“I rate Gael very highly but I rate highly as well Kieran Gibbs, and he is now at an age where he has to play. And that’s the main reason behind that, to give Gibbs a chance”.Gibbs injury problems have hampered his progress, and relying on him as first choice left back would be seen as something of a gamble for an Arsenal squad which has more injuries per season than your average earthquake.With Arsenal in need of at least one centre-half, and possible replacements for Cesc and Nasri, it remains to be seen if a left back is considered a priority and included in the “one or two” players Wenger hopes to bring in. Why are you surprised? Was bait from the Arsenal looking to sign two centre-backs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJibbles Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Arsenal are close to completing the signing of Swedish teenager Kristoffer Olsson, according to the midfielder's current club. Wenger: Set to sign midfielderThe 16-year-old has had two trails with Arsene Wenger's outfit, the first coming back in February, and has impressed.IFK Norrkopings starlet Olsson is now set to make a permanent move to England for an undisclosed fee."I can confirm that the transfer is close to being sealed. I won't comment on any sums, but of course we are happy with the deal," IFK Norrkopings sporting director Tony Martinsson told Fotbolldirekt.se."We are pleased, but of course we would have preferred to have seen Kristoffer stay in Norrkoping and evolve to a first-team player."He wanted to take this chance and we will not stand in the way.NExt...As Cesc Fábregas was billeted at London Colney during his team-mates' expedition to Asia on Saturday, the captain's exit from Arsenal took on a sense of inevitability.However, though Barcelona's courtship of the Catalan will inflict more turmoil on a club supposedly in terminal decline, it should be regarded more as an opportunity than a curse. Even if Fábregas were not pining for his homeland or blighted with frequent hamstring injuries, the time is ripe for his departure.The World Cup winner is like a one-man Gerrard-Lampard partnership: thrusting, creative and with a threat of goals from midfield. But he, like that pairing, cannot play in the middle of a 4-4-2. Arsène Wenger's pact with Fábregas has been to construct a continental 4-2-3-1, with the little Catalan ghosting around and threading balls between adversaries or lifting passes over defences for forwards to chase. It worked, up to a point. Last season Arsenal were the only team to enjoy on average 60% of the possession – thus they consistently spent 50% more time on the ball than their opponents – while completing more passes than any other.This comfort with the ball meant Arsenal alone last season were capable of going toe to toe with Barcelona in a meaningful match. However, time has proved the system Fábregas's skills demanded to be ill-suited to English football. When lesser teams arrived at the Emirates they were content to concede all the territory and all the possession, congesting the area around their own goal. Although Arsenal were generating data highly prized by football statisticians – a league-leading 75% of their passes in the final third of the pitch were successful – they could not translate possession into goals. Damagingly, six Premier League teams scored more goals at home than Arsenal last season.Moreover visitors were playing an Arsenal team that conceded more than half its goals from set pieces, and knew that even by playing ultra-conservatively they could stay in the game. Six teams also lost fewer times at home last season than the Gunners.With Fábregas in the team Wenger was forced to persevere with the same tactical template: there could be no Plan B of an open and counterattacking 4-4-2. Now, provided he receives a fair price for the only player in the world capable of improving Barcelona's midfield, Wenger is entirely reconciled to losing his captain and will not seek to replace him. Instead Wenger is showing signs that the continental experiment will be discarded in favour of England's atavistic 4-4-2.Fábregas's sale should generate £35m for Arsenal. If Samir Nasri's departure is reluctantly sanctioned – Wenger does not wish to lose a player whose shooting accuracy is the Premier League's best – it will add £22m more. Although Gervinho's arrival cost £11m, that was offset by the £7m received from Gaël Clichy's departure.The £53m net transfer income would all be used to strengthen the first team, and across a number of areas. Reports linking Stewart Downing with a £15m move to the Emirates Stadium are entirely plausible. His ability to cross the ball has no replica at Arsenal and would draw more headed goals from Robin van Persie and Marouane Chamakh, whose dangerous aerial ability has not been greatly exploited at the Emirates.The goalkeeper Manuel Almunia has not travelled to Asia, and Sunderland's £6m Craig Gordon is viewed as a possible replacement. Stoke City's 35-year-old Thomas Sorensen has also been considered to provide meaningful competition to Wojciech Szczesny in what would be an inexpensive trade, provided the Dane does not extend his contract beyond its current 12 months.An imposing centre-half is an equally urgent requirement. Gary Cahill and Phil Jagielka are favoured because they, like Downing, would help satisfy Uefa and Premier League requirements for homegrown players. But Per Mertesacker, a 75-times capped, 26-year-old Germany international, excites Wenger due to his leadership qualities and his seven-figure price. Take note that Nicklas Bendtner, another left behind as his team tour Asia, is highly regarded at Mertesacker's Werder Bremen and could be used in a swap deal.Arsenal may have lost out to Juventus in their pursuit of Bayer Leverkusen's £15m Chile international midfielder, Arturo Vidal. However, it shows Wenger is open to strengthening central midfield despite his faith in Emmanuel Frimpong, who must recover from the knee ligament injury he suffered last season.That leaves the centre-forward position, and the £27m link with Real Madrid's Karim Benzema should not be dismissed. The 23-year-old was off-colour for much of last season, with only one goal in his first 18 La Liga appearances. But with 15 goals in his last 17 starts he proved what a decisive player he still is.And so Gordon, Downing, Vidal, Gervinho, Mertesacker and Benzema could arrive at a £10m net cost following the departures of Fábregas, Nasri, Clichy and Bendtner. If Wenger can achieve this within his club's existing wage structure – by moving on a number of fringe players – he will have been true to his word as a "very active" manager this summer. Arsenal's spine would be stronger and they would be more of a goal threat. But for all these benefits, with Fábregas gone, the biggest asset Wenger would have added to his side is tactical flexibility.Arsenal's changing face?Current 4-2-3-1 Szczesny; Sagna, Djourou, Vermaelen, Gibbs; Song, Frimpong; Nasri, Wilshere, Arshavin; Van Persie.Possible 4-2-3-1 Szczesny; Sagna, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs; Wilshere, Vidal; Walcott, Van Persie, Gervinho; Benzema.Current 4-4-2 Szczesny; Sagna, Djourou, Vermaelen, Gibbs; Walcott, Wilshere, Frimpong, Nasri; Chamakh, Van Persie.Possible 4-4-2 Szczesny; Sagna, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs; Walcott, Vidal, Wilshere, Downing; Van Persie, Benzema.http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/jul/10/cesc-fabregas-departure-arsenal?Just keep saying "If only" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student of Accounting Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 LOL@ His possible team line ups.Does man not realise we have AARON RAMSEY. wtf is Frimpong doing in all his line ups.f*ck*ng jorno's this year are scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I don't see the hype with moving back to 442 it would only see us deaded by Fergies 4-5-1 again or any other teams 4-5-1 who would overrun us in midfieldAt the same time I would love to see Arshavin in his natural role behind the strikerImagine if wenger breaks our transfer record on stewart downingpmsl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF Cunt Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Imagine if wenger breaks our transfer record on stewart downingpmsl just clocked this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF Cunt Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 no fear downing snubbin us for liverpool according to ssn must know hes not ready for clmuch rather jam with the british ladsthey can have him, f*ck it loose fab/nas really doesn't MATA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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