UKIP

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Sound good to me.

 

So someone sentenced to life at 18/19 should die in prison?

 

We should increase spending on defence, whilst making cuts across other public services?

 

All immigrants should be fluent in English? You know how fucked we would be if the NHS had not imported loads of foreign doctors and nurses over the last 40 years to cover vast skill gaps we have.

 

Fluent? Come on man

 

''Children are ashamed of our past'' On the whole so they should be, they are not taught to be ashamed, they are ashamed because of the vast amount of info the inter net allows them to read through and form their own opinions on about things they are not taught at schools

 

''Multiculturalism has split our society'' Is this not ignorant and borderline xenophobic?

 

Double prison sentences to have zero tolerance on crime??

 

Let the police have even more power to abuse??

 

 

 

[Da Luv Doc]

 

 

 

Green Party >>>  Lib Dems >> Labour >>>>> UKIP/BNP/Tories

 

 

Man said Green Party you know. Guy would get taxed for breathing. Some backwards party.

 

We would:

• Reintroduce the

fuel duty escalator

,

raising fuel duty by 8% per year.This will

raise £2.2bn in 2010 rising to £10bn by

2013. In the longer run we would introduce

a system of domestic carbon quotas.

• Modify the regime for Corporation Tax

Capital allowances so that the allowances are

only available for investment in sustainable

technologies, raising £7bn in 2010 rising to

£10bn by 2013.

• Introduce

VAT and fuel duty on aviation

,

raising £7bn in 2010 and £10bn by 2013.

• Increase the rates for the Climate Change

Levy and for Landfill Tax,raising £300m.

•

End the zero-rating of VAT on new

dwellings, putting them on a level with

conversions and renovations of existing

dwellings, raising £5bn in 2010 and

£7.5bn by 2013.

•

Tax

plastic bags and other unnecessary

packaging,raising perhaps £1bn by 2013.

•

Levy eco-taxes

on non-renewables or

pollutants, in particular pesticides, organochlorines, nitrogen and artificial

fertilisers and phosphates.

•

Introduce new taxes on use of water

by

businesses and waste heat from power

stations, raising £3bn by 2013.

• Replace vehicle excise duty by a

new

graduated purchase tax on vehicles that heavily

penalises over-sized or over-powered vehicles.

Overall this would be tax neutral.

• Make tax concessions on savings, such as

ISAs,

only available for investment in

sustainable technologies,raising £1.8bn.

• No longer offer zero VAT rating to

financial services and betting duties, which

are of limited value to the real economy,

raising £5.6bn by 2013.

• Gradually increase

alcohol and tobacco

taxes by about 50% to match anticipated

increases in expenditures on the NHS, raising

£1.4bn in 2010 rising to £5.6bn

by2013.

 

Sorry must have missed that part in their Manifesto

 

Care to point it out to me Justin?

 

might aswell be

 

Why are you trying to increase the cost my life bro

 

economy would just die faster with these bastards

 

policies based off feelings and not logic

 

To reduce the health risks to our children and grandchildren

 

Health is not something you can put a price on, especially when it comes to family

 

We take from nature but no not give out

 

Only humans are ignorant enough to preach androcentrism 

 

And you only highlighted the parts that make your post look better

 

1.Taxing businesses for high water use - not me or you

 

2.Taxing heavy vehicle users more because of the increased damages they do to the environment, if you can afford the car you can afford giving back to nature

 

etc

 

 

 

Shut up you tree hugging mug.

 

Family you know. They'll blatantly put a Chinese style "One child only" shit to cut "the pollution."

 

We are part of nature, the planet can control itself. You are so stupid to see that if these green monsters ever get into power then this country would be some broke shit-hole.

[cambridgebanteer]

Bruv I ain't saying they're bad I don't care about any of the political parties in this country they are all full of shit

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Misogyny

Ukip’s only female MEP (after the expulsion of Nikki Sinclaire) Marta Andreasen, recently threatened to leave the party, labelling Farage as an “anti-women Stalinist dictator” whose view is that “women should be in the kitchen or in the bedroom”.

This came as no surprise. His grasp of sexual politics has always been tenuous at best. As he explained in a Telegraph interview: “Lap dancing? Don’t have the time these days, but I used to go to them. Like it or not, they are a fact of life. You are talking about normal behaviour there. Everyone does it.” Then, asked about extra-marital affairs, he conceded: “Well, we’re all human. There is a big difference between that sort of thing and being really bad.”

When Godfrey Bloom MEP, infamous for making a speech in the European Parliament – one of his better ones – while heavily intoxicated, said that “no employer with a brain in the right place would employ a young, single, free woman”, Farage’s reaction was “Dear old Godders! Godfrey's comment [as above] has been proved so right.”

 

Views on the less able

In 2007, Jack Biggs alleged that he had been banned from running as a candidate because of his disability and presented significant evidence in support. Later, high-ranking member Alexandra Swann sided with a Ukip councillor who said it was dangerous to allow those who do not work to vote. Political Scrapbook reported her as saying that “allowing people to vote on how other people’s money is spent — if they don’t contribute — is dangerous”. This, presumably, would include those unable to contribute because of disability.

Finally, the apotheosis (and demise of Godwin’s law, forever hence) came when a UKIP candidate aired his repugnant views about compulsory abortion of all disabled babies.

 

Homophobia

Ousted MEP Nikki Sinclaire, who came out as a lesbian, won a sexual discrimination case against UKIP after refusing to sit with its homophobic allies in the European parliament.

On a private members’ forum, senior UKIP member and former parliamentary candidate Dr Julia Gasper claimed some homosexuals prefer sex with animals. The Mirror reported her as saying: “As for the links between homosexuality and paedophilia, there is so much evidence that even a full-length book could hardly do justice to the ­subject.” (Ironically, UKIP General Secretary Jonathan Arnott had banned a discussion on the site on gay issues, because he feared that someone “is going to screenshoot comments and send them to a newspaper”.) She was sacked.

More recently a UKIP Croydon North candidate tweeted: "A caring loving home is a heterosexual or single family. I don't believe (a gay couple) is healthy for a child." He did so, after retweeting an article written by a National Front supporter who claimed there was "no such thing as homophobia". He was sacked.

However, Olly Neville, the former UKIP Youth Chairman, was also sacked for supporting same-sex marriage. Sack them all, as long as we don’t have to talk about it, seems to be the policy

 

Islamophobia

“On the question of Islamification,” said Farage during a well-received speech, “we have to do a bit more to teach our children of the values of our Judeo-Christian society.” He proceeded to note that at least 20 police forces are turning a blind eye to the operation of Sharia Law and expressed admiration for countries which say: “You’re welcome to come here and to have your children here… but if you’re coming here to take us over, you’re not welcome.”

A recent manifesto commitment to "tackle extremist Islam by banning the burqa or veiled niqab in public buildings and certain private buildings" was further explained by Farage: "I can't go into a bank with a motorcycle helmet on. I can't wear a balaclava going round the District and Circle line.”

Finally, Ukip peer Lord Pearson put it unequivocally. "The Muslims are breeding ten times faster than us," he said. "I don't know at what point they reach such a number we are no longer able to resist the rest of their demands."

 

Vote UKIP

 

[Thun]

Sound good to me.

 

So someone sentenced to life at 18/19 should die in prison?

 

We should increase spending on defence, whilst making cuts across other public services?

 

All immigrants should be fluent in English? You know how f*cked we would be if the NHS had not imported loads of foreign doctors and nurses over the last 40 years to cover vast skill gaps we have.

 

Fluent? Come on man

 

''Children are ashamed of our past'' On the whole so they should be, they are not taught to be ashamed, they are ashamed because of the vast amount of info the inter net allows them to read through and form their own opinions on about things they are not taught at schools

 

''Multiculturalism has split our society'' Is this not ignorant and borderline xenophobic?

 

Double prison sentences to have zero tolerance on crime??

 

Let the police have even more power to abuse??

 

 

 

 

Your giving great points why things need to change

 

Come like you want this country to fall and become a cess pit

 

Would please you init

[Thun]

Misogyny

Ukip’s only female MEP (after the expulsion of Nikki Sinclaire) Marta Andreasen, recently threatened to leave the party, labelling Farage as an “anti-women Stalinist dictator” whose view is that “women should be in the kitchen or in the bedroom”.

This came as no surprise. His grasp of sexual politics has always been tenuous at best. As he explained in a Telegraph interview: “Lap dancing? Don’t have the time these days, but I used to go to them. Like it or not, they are a fact of life. You are talking about normal behaviour there. Everyone does it.” Then, asked about extra-marital affairs, he conceded: “Well, we’re all human. There is a big difference between that sort of thing and being really bad.”

When Godfrey Bloom MEP, infamous for making a speech in the European Parliament – one of his better ones – while heavily intoxicated, said that “no employer with a brain in the right place would employ a young, single, free woman”, Farage’s reaction was “Dear old Godders! Godfrey's comment [as above] has been proved so right.”

 

>Views on the less able

In 2007, Jack Biggs alleged that he had been banned from running as a candidate because of his disability and presented significant evidence in support. Later, high-ranking member Alexandra Swann sided with a Ukip councillor who said it was dangerous to allow those who do not work to vote. Political Scrapbook reported her as saying that “allowing people to vote on how other people’s money is spent — if they don’t contribute — is dangerous”. This, presumably, would include those unable to contribute because of disability.

Finally, the apotheosis (and demise of Godwin’s law, forever hence) came when a UKIP candidate aired his repugnant views about compulsory abortion of all disabled babies.

 

Homophobia

Ousted MEP Nikki Sinclaire, who came out as a lesbian, won a sexual discrimination case against UKIP after refusing to sit with its homophobic allies in the European parliament.

On a private members’ forum, senior UKIP member and former parliamentary candidate Dr Julia Gasper claimed some homosexuals prefer sex with animals. The Mirror reported her as saying: “As for the links between homosexuality and paedophilia, there is so much evidence that even a full-length book could hardly do justice to the ­subject.” (Ironically, UKIP General Secretary Jonathan Arnott had banned a discussion on the site on gay issues, because he feared that someone “is going to screenshoot comments and send them to a newspaper”.) She was sacked.

More recently a UKIP Croydon North candidate tweeted: "A caring loving home is a heterosexual or single family. I don't believe (a gay couple) is healthy for a child." He did so, after retweeting an article written by a National Front supporter who claimed there was "no such thing as homophobia". He was sacked.

However, Olly Neville, the former UKIP Youth Chairman, was also sacked for supporting same-sex marriage. Sack them all, as long as we don’t have to talk about it, seems to be the policy

 

Islamophobia

“On the question of Islamification,” said Farage during a well-received speech, “we have to do a bit more to teach our children of the values of our Judeo-Christian society.” He proceeded to note that at least 20 police forces are turning a blind eye to the operation of Sharia Law and expressed admiration for countries which say: “You’re welcome to come here and to have your children here… but if you’re coming here to take us over, you’re not welcome.”

A recent manifesto commitment to "tackle extremist Islam by banning the burqa or veiled niqab in public buildings and certain private buildings" was further explained by Farage: "I can't go into a bank with a motorcycle helmet on. I can't wear a balaclava going round the District and Circle line.”

Finally, Ukip peer Lord Pearson put it unequivocally. "The Muslims are breeding ten times faster than us," he said. "I don't know at what point they reach such a number we are no longer able to resist the rest of their demands."

 

Vote UKIP

 

 

 

No links to the sources?

 

Trying to work that spin hard

 

Every party will have some bad apples and there is more then enough of them in the Tory and Labour partys

[Mame Biram Diouf]

You have not made one post in this thread about actually UKIP policies

 

You then said green party is X I showed you they are not X

 

Then you said you shouldnt need to show me UKIP policies because I can look it up myself, even though I already know them, just wanted you to confirm you didn't, which you don't

 

You then waited forme to post things up about UKIP which I disagree with, then you come in and again say nothing with any substance behind it

 

 

Fuck is wrong with you

[Da Luv Doc]

 

Ok Thun

 

Whats their views and policies on education?

 

Whats their views and policies on healthcare?

 

Whats their views and policies on use of non-renewable energy?

 

Whats their views and policies on foreign policy?

 

Whats their views and policies on tax havens/avoidance?

 

Whats their views and policies on fixing the economy?

 

Whats their views and policies on investing back into manufacturing in the UK?

 

Whats their views and policies on the enviroment?

 

All you have posted videos about is getting us out of the EU

 

What countries does he want us to increase our exports too?

 

What type of exports?

 

What goals by what years?

 

??

 

Or is he just using the leave EU rhetoric to keep himself in a job and people like you lap it up without knowing anything else the party offers

 

They are a reactionary group, nothing more

 

http://bit.ly/135J1hF

 

Give your feedback to anything you disagree with

 

Your trying to debate me you about UKIP but know nothing about there policies 

 

Your supporting a party that wants to heap bare taxes on people over myths made up by Al Gore and phony scientists 

 

So basically as usual you post something you know nothing about?

 

''Heap bare taxes on people over myths made up''

 

Sorry can you please translate this and present factual evidence?

 

Same Green Party whose one of their key policies after being Green is to reduce inequalities between people, and have loads of ideas on doing so 

 

For example;

 

Reform inheritance tax,so that the level

of taxation depends on the wealth of the

recipient rather than that of the deceased,

raising £3bn by 2013.This will encourage

people to distribute their property widely

  

• Increase the main rate of Corporation Tax

from 28% back to 30% and reduce the small

firms rate back to 20%, altogether raising

£1.4bn.

 

Help lower earners by raising the lower

National Insurance limit to the personal

allowance rate (which is £6,475 a year,

or £124.52 a week), costing £3.9bn.

 

• Reform Council Tax by making people in

more expensive houses pay more and those

in smaller ones less, adding an additional

band at the top for the biggest houses,

raising £1.7bn.

 

Minority ethnic groups, lone parents, and

people without formal qualifications have an

unemployment rate of about double that for

the total working-age population.The richest

1 per cent of households own more than 20

per cent of Britain’s wealth.The gross

inequalities continue throughout life, with

around 25 per cent of pensioners living in

poverty, and significant disparities in life

expectancy, particularly among men, associated

with income. And inequality has risen in

recent years, most steeply under Mrs

Thatcher’s Conservatives since 1979, before

declining a little in the early years of New

Labour, only to rise again in recent years.

Inequality is not just wrong in itself. It makes

us ill, causes us to die earlier, raises crime

levels, depresses educational achievement, and

creates stress and mental illness. New research

has shown that more equal societies do better,

and that equality – rather than simple average

wealth or even lack of poverty – is the main

route to a better society for everyone, rich

and poor.

 

See that Thun

 

Using factual things to back up what I am saying

 

 

 

Green party is a mugs party. What they say is not fact. They use assumptions yet fail to state how much money the country would lose if they implemented their stupid stone age policies. 

 

This is what will happen:

 

1. Super high taxes.

 

2. Businesses will say "fuck the uk" and kick

 

3. All manufacturing would halt

 

4. Poor will get poorer

 

5. People with aspirations to earn a lot of money or with the potential to earn a lot of money, will go to other countries to get the jobs there, that would have been in the UK but not due to their stupid policies.

 

6. Heathrow will lose flights and fail to sustain its status as a hub airport, meaning businesses and airlines will think "fuck the uk" and will fly from elsewhere.

 

7. Car manufacturers like Jaguar land rover and other engineering companies will think "fuck the uk" and move its factories elsewhere.

 

8. People will be more pissed off as holidays abroad will become extremely expensive 

 

THIS IS FUUCKING LOGIC YOU MUG!!!!

 

Oh yeah, and never, EVER, address me in my trademark again.

[Mame Biram Diouf]

SUP BRO

 

YOU MAD?

[Gambino]

Regarding the Life thing. I don't think guys should get life then come out in 15 years put it that way. Dependant on the crime.

 

As for 18 year olds....... Yea so what? You trying to tell me 18 years old are not accountable for what they do because of their age.

 

Zero Tolerence is needed because too many people obviously don't really give a toss about the law here. We are in times where Prison ain't all that bad to people, they talk about how cushy it is. If people ain't worried about their prison sentences or punishment are they gonna think twice about the benefits of commiting crimes? Time to get back to a society where people have to seriously think twice and way their options before doing dumb shit. 

 

I do think Immigrants should speak English....... My opinion. What good would a Doctor be here if you couldn't communicate with him...

 

We are in a time where we are supposed to bend over backwards to make others feel welcome at the cost of our own culture. From when my cousins Primary school cancelled their Christmas play so that they didn't offend the growing Muslim population in the school... That is just taking the fucking piss.

 

The Multicultural issue is debatable. Never seen it as an issue in the past. Now I think it's becoming more of a concern.

[Thun]

You have not made one post in this thread about actually UKIP policies

 

You then said green party is X I showed you they are not X

 

You denying Green Party dont support climate change?

 

 

Climate crisis 

A Green government will take bold, responsible and scientifically credible action to avoid catastrophic climate change. We will apply a contraction and convergence strategy to reduce emissions to a safe and equal per-capita level. Pursuing the necessary annual reductions of around 10% will create many jobs. We will provide free monthly carbon emission allowances and people wanting to use more than their fair share could trade allowances. Total emissions will be capped and will reduce each year in line with our 2030 emission reduction target of 90% on 1990 levels.

 

This is what you want to enforce on the people yeah, making people buy carbon credits, smh

[Da Luv Doc]

SUP BRO

 

YOU MAD?

 

 

Yes I am mad you mug.

 

Some joke ting to think I could be a CEO in 30 years time and they try say I should only earn up to a certain times more than a fuucking part time cleaner on £5k pa. They are fuucking rubbish and they need to melt on the surface of the sun.

[Da Luv Doc]

You have not made one post in this thread about actually UKIP policies

 

You then said green party is X I showed you they are not X

 

You denying Green Party dont support climate change?

 

 

> 

Climate crisis 

A Green government will take bold, responsible and scientifically credible action to avoid catastrophic climate change. We will apply a contraction and convergence strategy to reduce emissions to a safe and equal per-capita level. Pursuing the necessary annual reductions of around 10% will create many jobs. We will provide free monthly carbon emission allowances and people wanting to use more than their fair share could trade allowances. Total emissions will be capped and will reduce each year in line with our 2030 emission reduction target of 90% on 1990 levels.

 

This is what you want to enforce on the people yeah, making people buy carbon credits, smh

 

 

 

Some joke ting. 

[Thun]

Lord Monckton talking on the real environmental issues and how climate change is phony science

 

[Mame Biram Diouf]

You have not made one post in this thread about actually UKIP policies

 

You then said green party is X I showed you they are not X

 

You denying Green Party dont support climate change?

 

 

You are actually more stupid then Chapps sub-consciousness Imhim

 

They are called Green Party

 

Of course they fucking believe in Climate Change

 

You are an idiot

 

The fact you have Justin backing you up confirms this

 

Have a good night 

[Da Luv Doc]

Yeah but I'm dropping common sense though rude girl. You believe in this fakeness and bought into the propaganda.

 

You're the one Bane who wants to be taxed up left, right and center. You are a mug who fails to see how damaging to this country the green monster party would do to this country.

[Kurtis]

I dunno what it is about the Internet it has some demonic power, I've basically lost 2 of my closest bredrins to this conspiracy kook sh*t, can't even talk to them guys any more without them ranting about zionists and the mainstream media (MSM) without having some next baseless theories from dubious websites being regurgitated at you, they have been well and truly brain washed by it. Does my nut

 

LMAO

 

praise the lord my niggas never fell into that

[Kurtis]

Thun is a top troll i gotta give him that.

 

Man constantly gets multipage replies without actually giving any arguments or facts himself

 

the teks >>>>>>>>

 

LMFAO

[Thun]

Thun is a top troll i gotta give him that.

 

Man constantly gets multipage replies without actually giving any arguments or facts himself

 

the teks >>>>>>>>

 

How many tr0ll accounts have you been controlling for years now? The cheek of it

[Thun]

 

You have not made one post in this thread about actually UKIP policies

 

You then said green party is X I showed you they are not X

 

You denying Green Party dont support climate change?

 

 

You are actually more stupid then Chapps sub-consciousness Imhim

 

They are called Green Party

 

Of course they f*cking believe in Climate Change

 

You are an idiot

 

The fact you have Justin backing you up confirms this

 

Have a good night 

 

Looks like you got crushed in that debate

 

unluck

[Sole]

SUP BRO

YOU MAD?

Yes I am mad you mug.

Some joke ting to think I could be a CEO in 30 years time and they try say I should only earn up to a certain times more than a fuucking part time cleaner on £5k pa. They are fuucking rubbish and they need to melt on the surface of the sun.

30 years?

How old are u Justin?

[Da Luv Doc]

Ok, 15 years. (have to enjoy life before hand bro  )

[Da Luv Doc]

Imagine Green Party saying footballers can only earn 5 times more than the cleaners of the stadium lol, yeah, we'll have the best league in the world.....