Bobby Reds Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 If a job i am currently working in, has given me a gross misconduct thing. When a job calls and asks them for a reference, can they inform the new job of my gross misconduct and shit.?? Or do they just say "he has worked her from 2012 - present" nothing else.?? anyone been had a new job reject them from a bad reference?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KayGee Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 From experience when filling out references for guys theres always the question of 'why they are no longer working for us' which has to be answered honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic Man Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 They may also ask abt your sickness record as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidge Weasle Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 can you not just get a refrence from the place you worked before the gross misconduct one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Reds Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 From experience when filling out references for guys theres always the question of 'why they are no longer working for us' which has to be answered honestly. No but im still working for them, everything is calm. Theres a lot of pressure on me tho cos i cant make a single mistake any more. But when the new job asks them about me, can they talk about gross misconduct?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
local Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 cant u jus blag u were self employed for that time n not put em down? say ebay shop or somethin more pertinent to ur industry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Reds Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 can you not just get a refrence from the place you worked before the gross misconduct one? might have too.... but i already put it down, if i call them up and ask if i can change the reference, they probably gone get suspicious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KayGee Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 From experience when filling out references for guys theres always the question of 'why they are no longer working for us' which has to be answered honestly. No but im still working for them, everything is calm. Theres a lot of pressure on me tho cos i cant make a single mistake any more. But when the new job asks them about me, can they talk about gross misconduct?? From experience when filling out references for guys theres always the question of 'why they are no longer working for us' which has to be answered honestly. No but im still working for them, everything is calm. Theres a lot of pressure on me tho cos i cant make a single mistake any more. But when the new job asks them about me, can they talk about gross misconduct?? I believe they will be obliged to mention gross misconduct OR refuse to supply a reference. This is kind of the whole point in references, the whole 'can't give a bad reference' is myth but what the company might not want to do is put themselves in a position for you to be able to go back at them with the 'unfair' argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Reds Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 From experience when filling out references for guys theres always the question of 'why they are no longer working for us' which has to be answered honestly. No but im still working for them, everything is calm. Theres a lot of pressure on me tho cos i cant make a single mistake any more. But when the new job asks them about me, can they talk about gross misconduct?? > From experience when filling out references for guys theres always the question of 'why they are no longer working for us' which has to be answered honestly. No but im still working for them, everything is calm. Theres a lot of pressure on me tho cos i cant make a single mistake any more. But when the new job asks them about me, can they talk about gross misconduct?? I believe they will be obliged to mention gross misconduct OR refuse to supply a reference. This is kind of the whole point in references, the whole 'can't give a bad reference' is myth but what the company might not want to do is put themselves in a position for you to be able to go back at them with the 'unfair' argument. damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KayGee Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 How many references did you supply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Reds Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Just the one. this whole gross misconduct stuff just happened in the last two weeks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic Man Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 If you still work there surely you haven't been found guilty yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Reds Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 If you still work there surely you haven't been found guilty yet? thats what im thinking now... gonna have to join the union cos i dont even fully no can they inform the new job of any warnings received??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEAZE BALL Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 The company can say what they like as long as its accurate if not you can sue them if youre denied a new job based on your reference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Would be more concerned about having multiple bad references tbh, 1 isn't the end of the world, people make mistakes. Got fired from my first IT job and new I'd be stuck without using then as a reference as I had no other working experience, gave them as a reference for every job since and never had a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Rollins Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Legally they can refuse to give a reference or only confirm the dates you were employed with them. They cannot discuss you being dismissed or any disciplinary actions taken against you, and really if they DO inform future potential employers of your dismissal you can sue them. Gross misconduct generally constitutes termination of employment. Every company will ask you why you left previous jobs. Do what everyone else does, and lie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskay Jones Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 basically they will snitch holla at me for a reference done it for so many akhis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro Sosa Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 cant u jus blag u were self employed for that time n not put em down? say ebay shop or somethin more pertinent to ur industry won't they ask for proof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
local Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 duno never been in the situation but what are they gona do ask for ur tax records Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyal fi beg Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Legally they can refuse to give a reference or only confirm the dates you were employed with them. They cannot discuss you being dismissed or any disciplinary actions taken against you, and really if they DO inform future potential employers of your dismissal you can sue them. Gross misconduct generally constitutes termination of employment. Every company will ask you why you left previous jobs. Do what everyone else does, and lie. this isnt true. they just have to be truthful https://www.gov.uk/work-reference the whole 'employers cant give a bad reference' misunderstanding comes from most employers not wanting to risk being sued. if you were late x amount of times, they can say that if they have proof. if you had a disciplinary, they can say that as its part of your performance in the company. they can say anything, as long as its truthful. most of the time youll probably get a 'good' reference. if you had a disciplinary but werent fired, i doubt the company will even mention it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Some referee told my mum the person that she was interviewing had mental problems and led to a break down. The whole reference thing is murky business tbh. All comes down to the indviudal giving you the reference more time they don't give a fuck about rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 90210 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 do companies who ask for references e-mail the past company or call them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J. Edgar Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 The company I work for now wanted email, phone and address of my previous employer (excluding head office) This was done for CS Clearance, so not your average check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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