The Counted: People killed by police in the US this year

[Cole Des]

9 minutes ago, Supermalt said:

Not a word about cop murders yet runs into this thread after the effect.  

 

[SLEAZE BALL]

From what I've seen Police in America have been carrying out genocide on people of colour for half a century MINUMUM

Anyone that CHOOSES to put on that uniform and gets touched cannot be described as innocent, they died for what they believe in

[Lionel & Dave]

just seen the clip of Snoop calling for all the real ones to get at him

a lot of influential people in the hip hop community

 

does hip hop have the chance to be great again through this?

[Drift]

No.

[Cole Des]

Where the clip?

[Afroman]

Saw santana spitting some righteous bars.

I am like yea Jog in mate 

[Ulysses]

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1. Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015. According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black. The majority of these victims had a gun or "were armed or otherwise threatening the officer with potentially lethal force," according to MacDonald in a speech at Hillsdale College.

Some may argue that these statistics are evidence of racist treatment toward blacks, since whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 12 percent of the population. But as MacDonald writes in The Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.

"Such a concentration of criminal violence in minority communities means that officers will be disproportionately confronting armed and often resisting suspects in those communities, raising officers’ own risk of using lethal force," writes MacDonald.

MacDonald also pointed out in her Hillsdale speech that blacks "commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime" in New York City, even though they consist of 23 percent of the city's population.

"The black violent crime rate would actually predict that more than 26 percent of police victims would be black," MacDonald said. "Officer use of force will occur where the police interact most often with violent criminals, armed suspects, and those resisting arrest, and that is in black neighborhoods."

2. More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks. According to MacDonald, 12 percent of white and Hispanic homicide deaths were due to police officers, while only four percent of black homicide deaths were the result of police officers.

"If we’re going to have a 'Lives Matter' anti-police movement, it would be more appropriately named "White and Hispanic Lives Matter,'" said MacDonald in her Hillsdale speech.

 

3. The Post's data does show that unarmed black men are more likely to die by the gun of a cop than an unarmed white man...but this does not tell the whole story. In August 2015, the ratio was seven-to-one of unarmed black men dying from police gunshots compared to unarmed white men; the ratio was six-to-one by the end of 2015. But MacDonald points out in The Marshall Project that looking at the details of the actual incidents that occurred paints a different picture:

The “unarmed” label is literally accurate, but it frequently fails to convey highly-charged policing situations. In a number of cases, if the victim ended up being unarmed, it was certainly not for lack of trying. At least five black victims had reportedly tried to grab the officer’s gun, or had been beating the cop with his own equipment. Some were shot from an accidental discharge triggered by their own assault on the officer. And two individuals included in the Post’s “unarmed black victims” category were struck by stray bullets aimed at someone else in justified cop shootings. If the victims were not the intended targets, then racism could have played no role in their deaths.

In one of those unintended cases, an undercover cop from the New York Police Department was conducting a gun sting in Mount Vernon, just north of New York City. One of the gun traffickers jumped into the cop’s car, stuck a pistol to his head, grabbed $2,400 and fled. The officer gave chase and opened fire after the thief again pointed his gun at him. Two of the officer’s bullets accidentally hit a 61-year-old bystander, killing him. That older man happened to be black, but his race had nothing to do with his tragic death. In the other collateral damage case, Virginia Beach, Virginia, officers approached a car parked at a convenience store that had a homicide suspect in the passenger seat. The suspect opened fire, sending a bullet through an officer’s shirt. The cops returned fire, killing their assailant as well as a woman in the driver’s seat. That woman entered the Post’s database without qualification as an “unarmed black victim” of police fire.

MacDonald examines a number of other instances, including unarmed black men in San Diego, CA and Prince George's County, MD attempting to reach for a gun in a police officer's holster. In the San Diego case, the unarmed black man actually "jumped the officer" and assaulted him, and the cop shot the man since he was "fearing for his life." MacDonald also notes that there was an instance in 2015 where "three officers were killed with their own guns, which the suspects had wrestled from them."

4. Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers. This is according to a Department of Justice report in 2015 about the Philadelphia Police Department, and is further confirmed that by a study conducted University of Pennsylvania criminologist Gary Ridgeway in 2015 that determined black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene. 

5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. According to MacDonald, the police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.

Despite the facts, the anti-police rhetoric of Black Lives Matter and their leftist sympathizers have resulted in what MacDonald calls the "Ferguson Effect," as murders have spiked by 17 percent among the 50 biggest cities in the U.S. as a result of cops being more reluctant to police neighborhoods out of fear of being labeled as racists. Additionally, there have been over twice as many cops victimized by fatal shootings in the first three months of 2016.

 

 

[Incumbent]

i'll just leave this here for the usual d*ck head cunts!!

 

[Supermalt]

38 minutes ago, Thun said:

Your a racist backwards barbarian if you think murdering innocent people is the way forward, you as bad as the people you claim to hate 

I didnt say its the way forward, ever. This is the result, history shows resistance against oppression. 

Whats your solution to police aggression against black people?

You dont care.

 

[Afroman]

2 minutes ago, Supermalt said:

I didnt say its the way forward, ever. This is the result, history shows resistance against oppression. 

Whats your solution to police aggression against black people?

You dont care.

Why do you even respond to the guy.  He's such a troll.

[Heero Yuy]

 

trust,

expect better from you Super

[Lionel & Dave]

just seen the clip of Snoop calling for all the real ones to get at him

a lot of influential people in the hip hop community

 

does hip hop have the chance to be great again through this?

[Incumbent]

can't remember where i read it but these powerful racist/white supremacist motherfuckers only respect 2 things

1. loss of life or 2. loss of finance

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thun suck ya mum

 

[RYDER.]

5 hours ago, Mythy Collins said:

tbf no one cares about anything apart from themselves

real rap

[Thun]

7 minutes ago, Supermalt said:

I didnt say its the way forward, ever. This is the result, history shows resistance against oppression. 

Whats your solution to police aggression against black people?

You dont care.

 

Take a look at my topic from 2008, the scum that murder the public are the lowest of the low especially when its the people paying there wages, they should be locked up for life

There is profiling that goes on which is rife and then there are those that are just brutish and it dont matter what race you are you are getting it, its goes deeper then race though, its the training they are given and how they are taught to not serve the public like they used to years ago, its a whole new mentality and methods they are taught

 

[Incumbent]

3 minutes ago, RYDER. said:

real rap

nah

take a lot of someone's p or kill someone they truly care about/need then you'll see how much they care

in other words if black ppl make these wealthy motherfuckers broke or make them feel the pain & suffering black feel everyday, things would defo change quick time

it's not a individual ting, it's a group ting

[Guest Blacksheet]

 

[SLEAZE BALL]

13 minutes ago, Blacksheet said:

 

 

[Supermalt]

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhQdEWjnxAol81138m

daemons are insane. no negotiations. 

[Yoshie]

3 minutes ago, Supermalt said:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhQdEWjnxAol81138m

daemons are insane. no negotiations. 

Stopped watching after she started listing his previous convictions.

c*nt.

[Cole Des]

Not as bad as the last video tbf.

The 1 criticising Jesse was a madness.

[Cole Des]

I feel for Philando man.

Put yourself in his shoes, from the moment the Police pull you over.

Even when he's shot and gasping for air the thoughts on his mind must have been for the safety of his daughter.

Why as a cop would you unload a weapon with a child in the car?

Unbearable shit.

[Guest Blacksheet]

 

[Guest Blacksheet]

 

[Incumbent]

12 minutes ago, Cole Des said:

I feel for Philando man.

Put yourself in his shoes, from the moment the Police pull you over.

Even when he's shot and gasping for air the thoughts on his mind must have been for the safety of his daughter.

Why as a cop would you unload a weapon with a child in the car?

Unbearable shit.

they don't care, man, child or woman

they don't see blacks as human

that's what the system/media/history has them truly believing when they see us