President Donald Trump Thread

[Gambino]

Does it please you to see a white racist get killed, and if so would it please you to see a black racist be killed also?

I'm not even worried about you being happy with people fighting white supremacists.

I'm saying whilst everyone is condemning those white neo nazis, why are they not condemning ANTIFA for attacking those who are not white supremacists, don't be naive to think these far left guys are turning up just to fight KKK members, they are attacking anyone who doesn't share their views full stop. They are no different from each other. You can condemn their violence too right?

[Vtec]

All I saw was white on white crime, fighting for different interpretations of what type of white supremacy is acceptable in the USA centred around a white supremacist KKK statue. Along with a death of a white woman protesting against the far right, rammed by neo nazi/alt right maniac.

Yet I see BLM being sprinkled in which actually had nothing to with this incident, which are a fraud and non representive of black people as a whole. (but they will tell you this so that that co-opted BLM means all black people and dash into this BS agenda)

Liberal whites vs neo nazi, alt right, republicans. (just like the Past US civil war, confederate south fighting to keep their slaves and doing all the work and lynchings vs the north wanting to rid slavery and make everyone work instead, but still maintain the stat quo of white supremacy on top whatever outcome)

Liberal whites,  ANTIFA and whatever Left wing group you wish to add, which isn't black run or led = Majority Middle-class white who don't like nationalists or fascists. They consider themselves to be rebelling against the establishment, whilst upholding all of its ultra-politically correct views. Still fear black people, but happy to just see us dancing or smiling. Most are teenagers and university students who grow out of the fad when they start paying taxes and then start to echo right wing views. (will find them chanting all lives matter and gay or LGBT lives matter) start fights with neo nazis and the far right groups.

Neo Nazi, Alt right, KKK, republicans = (proven history since the founding of the USA, centuries of murder/rape and genocide to african slave and native americans) Majority poor white working class, increasingly attracting working white middle class and law enforcement like the police and education chiefs. Fear & hate black people.

Consider themselves to be rebelling against the establishment, whilst upholding all of its ultra-politically correct views,  preserving the white race, and speak of white genocide and want slavery back or ship non whites away from US land. Walk around armed with intent, show up at riots armed but police do nothing and actually walk away to let them be. (will find them chanting white lives matter and gay or LGBT lives matter). Provokes leftist groups into fights.

You will find none of these groups marching in a real predominatly black urban area

From the black experience neither side left or right has ever been a good thing.

[Gambino]

So then you agree with Trumps stance on blaming both sides for their bullshit? Because that is the absolute truth and people are losing their damn minds right now saying he's defending White Supremacists for even mentioning ANTIFA/ALT LEFT.

Got Mackelmore at the minute having to promote changing his hair cut because apparently he was told his last one was the choice of white supremacists 

[Kuffir]

This guy's a willful idiot

[Kuffir]

 

 

[Drift]

The "what about" and deflections surrounding this have been mad.

People in the West will naturally be more concerned with the far right because last time a bunch of people with shit haircuts, marching around chanting "blood and soil", concerned about a "master race" were allowed to grow and fester, over 60 million people ended up dying in a war.

[Mizchif]

18 minutes ago, Drift said:

The "what about" and deflections surrounding this have been mad.

People in the West will naturally be more concerned with the far right because last time a bunch of people with shit haircuts, marching around chanting "blood and soil", concerned about a "master race" were allowed to grow and fester, over 60 million people ended up dying in a war.

Gambino - response.

[Gambino]

Deflections my ass.

Statues which have been up for god knows how long suddenly become a big issue in the past couple of years? Suddenly everyone has become more worried about the far right, is it by any chance the far right is growing again because the MSM, Establishment and ANTIFA types are pushing some shit agenda where only their opinion counts and they and they alone are allowed to incite violence towards people.... ANTIFA have been turning up to rally after rally inciting violence against normal people and still people want to sit here and only talk about one side of wrong doers.

@Mizchif You knew my reply was coming because you recognized he was talking shit.

[Vtec]

@GambinoNo I don't agree with him and it's bigger than him.

Not because he's sided against the left nor cos he's sided for the right. I don't subscribe to the trap and im not outraged, im not pleased someone died nor am i upset. (he holds office with known alt right wing memebers, this is his voter base whom he appealed too, its not a surprise why he wouldn't scorn them out individually?)

It's because he is dangerous as he emboldens the open far right extremism attacks on innocent people minding their own business. These individuals he influences are your doctors/lawyers/church priests/teachers/police his voter base. The very people served to protect and who make up day runnings of life who make up the majority population of USA/UK any western valued aligned country. Who can fuck up black man, woman, family, black child with impunity, as they have a chief in command office giving the greenlight. This does not benefit people of colour, specifically black folks, who for some reason are the most hated and feared... history don't lie (but we know why)

The reactions of disbelief the media (PROPAGANDA) feed to trigger the left vs right or right vs left again, works everytime.

He's a neccessary distraction for the elites bigger shit. Trigger emotions left right & centre. Fake news, online Libtard wars, walls, russia, odd social tendancies, twitter, Blame Obama, save the world from Hilary. Divide and conquer on roids keep the sheep infighting. but however you wanna spin it left or right, its still white supremacy that rules.

Meanwhile no matters who's in office they're soley serving corporate interests and preservation of US sovereign global power and white supremacy regardless of leftist or right strings.

And if you think I only think he's a problem wrong, I view Obama, Bush, Bill Clinton, George Bush Snr every single one since inception of the creation of the states the same way. USA/ EUROPE/VATICAN/SAUDI ROYALTY/ISRAEL (all these leaders if you haven't noticed are all good friends with each other, yet chaos resides in their own nations on the very evil the claim to be trying to cut out when they impose their war machines on foreign policy.) Once his term is up the torch gets passed onto the next puppet to maintain the paradox. Who will doubt be a lefties dream and percieved saviour to end trump reign.

The moment black people wake up and see whats really up and truly unite against white supremacy left or right versions and fight for our own true independence...  with no BLM and no LGBTIQA and all lives matter bollox in the way.

Is the day we die, as guranteed lefties and righties, military and police will arm to the letter of the constitution and it's open season on us. Malcolm X, Black Panthers tried and look at the outcome.. Co-intel pro..  BLM is a counter strike conintelpro, an advance move to prevent true black unity in the wake of the ferguson riots.

BLM is an agenda is designed to muddy up the waters, throwing in that gay shit. As if white supremacy distinguinshes between gay or straight black people.

And if you wanna throw in the classic deflection bar... like  "what about black on black crime" please dismiss what you've read above and stay in your lane, you're not ready.

[Gambino]

He hasn't sided for anyone. He condemned both sides for being pricks. He does have right wing members in his cabinet, not so sure they are Neo Nazis or KKK though?

Seriously cannot believe grown men on here are trying to put an argument across that only the right wing should be condemned for their violence and that ANTIFA have a right to do it because they hide behind a claim that they are anti fascists when it's clear they are the facsists.

[Gambino]

Out of interest @VETEC, you seem to be very much on this division mentality and black militant attitude, what exactly do you want your people to do when you say rise up? What are you hoping for or expecting?

[Afroman]

The problem is not condeming both sides.

The fact that he hasn't even addressed or consoled the victims says alot.

Saying both sides are to blame, only fuels the likes of lee rigby's murderers or the westminster attacker who blame foreign policy for their actions.

I am all for far right having their right to protest. But anyone who sides with KKK or any neo nazi movement are absolute scum imo.

 

[Vtec]

@GambinoTBH unitl you mentioned ANTIFA. I never knew what they where. So I just lump into another leftist group screaming all lives matter.

Black militant...? lol. Have you looked up what the word militant means? and where do you see my words echoing the likes of a militant?

militant

ˈmɪlɪt(ə)nt/

adjective

adjective: militant

1. 1.

   favouring confrontational or violent methods in support of a political or social cause.

   "the army are in conflict with militant groups"

   synonyms:

   aggressive, violent, belligerent, bellicose, assertive, pushy, vigorous, forceful, active, ultra-active, fierce, combative, pugnacious; More radical, extremist, extreme; enthusiastic, zealous, fanatical "the exuberance of his more militant supporters"

   antonyms:

   restrained, apathetic

noun

noun: militant; plural noun: militants

1. 1.

   a militant person.

   "militants became increasingly impatient of parliamentary manoeuvres"

   synonyms:

   activist, extremist, radical, enthusiast, supporter, follower, devotee, Young Turk, zealot, fanatic, sectarian, partisan "the demands of the militants"

I only want to see justice and peace.

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But you don't see white supremacy as the reality?

supremacy

s(j)uːˈprɛməsi/

noun

noun: supremacy

1. the state or condition of being superior to all others in authority, power, or status.

   "the supremacy of the king"

[Gambino]

@VTEC How do I not see white supremacy as a reality???? Do you not see me championing both sides being condemned here, is that not clear, I don't think I could of made that any clearer in what I say, and in no way in what I have said could you take from it that I don't see white supremacists as a reality. There is racism everywhere on all sides.

Anyways, what is it you are looking or want to happen regarding rising up and independence?

[Gambino]

5 minutes ago, Afroman said:

The problem is not condeming both sides.

The fact that he hasn't even addressed or consoled the victims says alot.

Saying both sides are to blame, only fuels the likes of lee rigby's murderers or the westminster attacker who blame foreign policy for their actions.

I am all for far right having their right to protest. But anyone who sides with KKK or any neo nazi movement are absolute scum imo.

 

He was asked this in his press conference, said he saw the mothers speech of the girl who had been killed and that he would be personally reaching out to her.

Don't know if you mean Trump but he definitely hasn't sided with any KKK. And I hope you feel the same way regarding anyone who sides with ANTIFA, both groups are scum.

[Kuffir]

Gambino do you have this same energy IRL?

You this vocal/transparent with your views?

[Gambino]

Why wouldn't I be transparent with my views?

[JOHN DOE]

Gambino - do you agree or disagree that staues of slave owners should be taken down?

If you dont agree they shouldnt - why not?

 

[Kuffir]

12 minutes ago, Gambino said:

Why wouldn't I be transparent with my views?

Is that a yes or a no

I just can't figure out how someone ain't buss Ur head yet

[Vtec]

6 minutes ago, Gambino said:

@VTEC How do I not see white supremacy as a reality???? Do you not see me championing both sides being condemned here, is that not clear, I don't think I could of made that any clearer in what I say, and in no way in what I have said could you take from it that I don't see white supremacists as a reality. There is racism everywhere on all sides.

Anyways, what is it you are looking or want to happen regarding rising up and independence?

Not all revolutions require violence. It's a state of mind. Peace and justice nothing more, but if that has to be defended with arms, is that no difference to how all nations function? with their armies etc.

Black people cannot fight against the powers that be with guns and violence. White supremacy only knows true violence and its so bad that even when have peaceful march for justice and peace, national guard and armed forces come out to play and black folks die. White supremacy sits on the button ffs.

It's not us that needs to change, we jut try fit into the squares which you keep changing shape on us and we adapt accordingly but can never really truly fit in. Then we are told why can't you just fit in.. all lives matter you know. I'm not racist I have a black friend.

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An independent black state would be near imposible. Would be another cuba, with economic sancations enforced by western powers. White people cannot function without us too. Just look at the continent of Africa, even if we mass exdous there. Central banks and corporate ties are knee deep in bed with corrupt yes massa puppet leaders keeping the regular population in strife, wouldn't be great situation to get into.

Marcus Garvey (read him up) even tried to do that way back and got shut down. So even if we try to leave you want us to stay. (I dont literally mean you either)

[JOHN DOE]

vtec on form here 

keep educating bro

[Gambino]

Just now, Kuffir said:

Is that a yes or a no

I just can't figure out how someone ain't buss Ur head yet

I don't imagine anyone would want to buss my head for condemning Neo Nazi's and Fascist Groups, besides Neo Nazi's and Fascists and I don't know any. I take it someone has bust your head for talking shite online?

The answer is a yes, but you need to recognize that people up here generally ain't like you lot on VIP2. I get the impression your real point is whether I express my views to non whites but the vast majority of non whites up here don't harbour disdain for whites or hold ridiculous bias. Can express our views to each other without turning into electronic gangsters.

[The Infamous]

nahh vip.on the same old shit

 

Gambino gona bino 

[Gambino]

9 minutes ago, JOHN DOE said:

Gambino - do you agree or disagree that staues of slave owners should be taken down?

If you dont agree they shouldnt - why not?

 

No I don't believe they should. Where does it stop? Are they literally going to remove all statues and records of the founding fathers of the United States who were also slave owners??? It's quite humorous that all these people who were screaming for this guys statue to be removed were then screaming in disgust at Trump pointing out Washington was a slave owner. Their cries were how could this President compare our founding father to a traitor, which as I pointed out, Washington was a traitor to the Crown.... So tell me, where does it stop, do you literally erase every bit of history like a lot of them are trying to?

[Kuffir]

Where's this condemnation bro?

Always a "what about this" or "what about that" agenda from you bare deflection

The fact that you think man harbour disdain for white people on here says it all really

Doubt you socialise with people outside your race for any great length of time cause like your prejudices would come out and they'd buss your head 

No gangsters on here mate I pay my taxes..even calling man "gangsters" lol like why