Michel Kane Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Just like if you don't give unproven player a chance then we will never know I hope your planning to become a coach not a manager because youngsters have zero chance of breaking into your teams with your current mindset :-/How are the two even linked? It all goes back to Zaha and Valencia WTF. Witsel & Bender may not want to move for ALL kinds of reasons & you bring THAT up? They may not want to move for personal reasons, financial reasons, footballing reasons, etc & you bring up Nani & Valencia? Are you fuckung stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Like I said how do you know if they will sink or swim They have to be given the chance Bender could be got at Witsel? This is the guy who was touting himself to PSG and trying to engineer a move out of Saint Petersburg this summer Besides these two are more realistic then Cesc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 i knew u would bring that up, but yet how many times did carrick force it out wide to valencia and young when both wer having poor games, it may be the united way but at least be brave enough to take it upon urself to change the flow of the game carrick CAN shoot, very good at striking the ball, some1 should remind him tho Are you trying to actually learn anything tonight? FFS, Carrick is a DEEP-LYING PLAYMAKER. He is a NUMBER 6. His job is not to score 10 goals or provide 15 assists. His job is not to constantly attempt over ambitious vertical through balls. He is SUPPOSED to dictate play from deep. Make a series of intelligent passes, laterally & vertically, breaking the lines. Do you want me to put it into context? Xabi Alonso & Bastian Schweinsteiger, 2 players who do the EXACT same job as him got 6 assists & 7 assists amongst each other respectively last season. Are they creative? Of course. But creativity in modern day football doesn't necesaarily mean ASSISTS. Creativity can be applied in different ways. bastian isnt afraid to say to himself " ok this isnt working let me change it up a lil , let me make something happen" ....carrick on the other hand will play the same way, even when things are not going as planned,now im not saying thats all carricks fault but having cesc next to him will be more effective than felliani ... united have 1 " for sure " starter in CM and thats carrick, for a top side,thats shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 i hope to god moyes has a more modern look to things ,cah saf was a lil dated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 You enjoy Man Utd being dominated? Thats what will happen if you put Cesc/Carrick as a two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 these days united normally get dominated,soak up pressure and then attack,its not a good way of playing but it works i guess(4 now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 TBH I realised you don't care for Europe it's the PL for you determines how great something is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kane Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Like I said how do you know if they will sink or swim They have to be given the chance Bender could be got at Witsel? This is the guy who was touting himself to PSG and trying to engineer a move out of Saint Petersburg this summer Besides these two are more realistic then Cesc What do you mean, they HAVE to be given a chance? There are MANY reasons why players don't join clubs. It's too convenient for the football fan to blame it just on a club's 'reluctance' to sign. Some are moreso to do with the team, some to do with the player. My point is, neither you nor I are privy to all those circumstances. So don't make ignorant statements like, United HAVE to sign player A or B. / And that's the last time you'll say some slick shit about my career, especially when it has nothing to do with what's being discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 i do care about europe.....determine how great some1 is? how can u say such a thing remember i said ruud >>>> kluivert his EUROPEAN record says so......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 I said current mindset I have good reason to say it You seem to favour guys who are average but had a good season moons ago over young bucks which isn't good that's what I am getting at Another thing Wasn't you the one asking for Arsenal to sign Kondogbia Don't be so hypocritical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 i do care about europe.....determine how great some1 is? how can u say such a thing remember i said ruud >>>> kluivert his EUROPEAN record says so......... Let's take Kompany for example yet have a good game in CL but is the best defender in world football according to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kane Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 I see critical thinking & context are a foreign concept to you. You seem to lack the ability to discuss & debate with other users without being disrespectful. Like I said, we can debate but do not come disrespectful to me because you will get shut down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 loooool why do we always gotta start a kompany debate..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Being disrespectful ? How? I used them players for a reference because te fact you have this thing about a player being unproven Did I say you won't make it as a coach? No Did I mock your dream? No I just don't agree with your unproven philosophy Furthermore What's wrong with suggesting transfer targets Feel free to try and shut me down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 uno porch believe it or not, i enjoy our lil scraps, hopefully more to come this season,with neymar n co Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Like I said to a lot of users on here If you want me gone I will go,When I first arrived on these shores one cold Sunday night in December 2009 I said to myself I will go the day I am not wanted Ask a MOD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kane Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 My point about Witsel/Bender HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING PROVEN/UNPROVEN. What I clearly said was, you do not know why clubs do not attempt to sign certain players. We are not involved in the meetings between clubs & agents. We do not know if players prefer to play in certain leagues. What about the homegrown rule, etc. There are several factors as to why a club will sanction or decline a signing. THAT was my point. So to bring up the Nani & Valencia discussion & then talk about my career aspirations when it has nothing to do with the thread is you being too fast & not thinking before typing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Infamous Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Like I said to a lot of users on here If you want me gone I will go,When I first arrived on these shores one cold Sunday night in December 2009 I said to myself I will go the day I am not wanted Ask a MOD LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adotbiz Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 How long Nani out for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Like I said to a lot of users on here If you want me gone I will go,When I first arrived on these shores one cold Sunday night in December 2009 I said to myself I will go the day I am not wanted Ask a MOD LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Spat out my ribena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 How long Nani out for? 2-4 weeks im hearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agony Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 ok, now name a few more... STATS: United’s Season So Far January 2, 2013 109 Comments Passing - Carrick passes the ball forwards with 35.24% of his passes. When looking at the players in the top 10 for passes completed, Carrick is 3rd, behind David Silva (36.23%) and Ashley Williams (35.85%), but ahead of the likes of Steven Gerrard (35.23%), Joe Allen (31.87%), Toure (30.02%), Santiago Cazorla (28.2%) and Arteta (27.03%). - Scholes has been accurate with 711 of his 769 passes (92%) with 21% of them going forward. He has been accurate with 81% of his passes in the final third. He has created a total of 8 chances with 1 of those an assist. Anderson has been accurate with 255 of his 279 passes (91%) with 22% of them going forward. He has been accurate with 87% of his final third passes. He has created a total of 5 chances with 1 of those an assist. Cleverley has been accurate with 665 of his 736 passes (90%) with 23% of them going forward. He has been accurate with 83% of his passes in the final third. He has created 9 chances but has 0 assists. Carrick has been accurate with 1455 of his 1646 passes (88%) with 35% of them going forward. He has been accurate with 76% of his passes in the final third. He has created a total of 25 chances with 4 of those assists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojo Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Like I said to a lot of users on here If you want me gone I will go,When I first arrived on these shores one cold Sunday night in December 2009 I said to myself I will go the day I am not wanted Ask a MOD LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL olololol Porchy is putting in that transfer request #freeporchy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN DOE Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 To be fair porchz was ghosted before then came back reincarnated as o fenomeno. He does have a condescending posting style but he does seem to know what he's on about. But along with him and ice , it seems if you don't agree with them than u are clueless which is wrawng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Ghosted by accident but if you want to ghost me on purpose feel free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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