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That right there is nothing to do with me bruv.That's down to inconsistencies in refereeing.But as far as I am aware 30 seconds are added on for every sub and the watch is stopped for goal celebrations.Martin Atkinson got it right today, the ref in the West Ham match and Chelsea match got it wrong but obviously that wasn't highlighted because nothing happened in stoppage time.@ Flojo
So if Atkinson got it right I'll ask you again, why did he blow the whistle 16 seconds after play restarted from Owen's goal, cos his celebration took longer than that surely?It's a joke that MOTD and half the tabloids are bending over backwards trying to justify it like people started watching football yesterday and injury time is a new concept.
Because at the time Owen scored time was up, the 5 and a half minutes had been played so that was it game done
no logic in that so that means the ref should of blew the whistle as soon as play restarted and not allow the 16 seconds?
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just watched the game and the one against spurs.until Carrick gets his act together a midfield of Ando, Fletcher and either Giggs or Scholes is the way to go.
Wow someone on this forum saying Giggs or Scholes should get a game whatever next dah well it'll all change when we have our next bad result51 people ejected from OT yesterday the notourious Old Trafford Gustapo in full effect in 2009
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Sir Alex Ferguson likes to boast that his Manchester United team score more late goals than any other side in the world. Others argue that they get a bit of extra help from referees. It has now emerged that the Premier League champions do, as suspected, benefit from an imbalance in the amount of stoppage time that is added to their matches.After the controversy over Michael Owen's winning goal in Sunday's Manchester derby, the Guardian has looked at all of United's league matches at Old Trafford since the start of the 2006-07 season and discovered that, on average, there has been over a minute extra added by referees when United do not have the lead after 90 minutes, compared to when they are in front. In 48 games when United were ahead, the average amount of stoppage time was 191.35 seconds. In 12 matches when United were drawing or losing there was an average of 257.17sec.The average stoppage time added at Old Trafford in the period in question is below that given at Anfield, the Emirates Stadium and Stamford Bridge. United's is 205 seconds, compared to Liverpool's 210sec, Arsenal's 224sec and Chelsea's 229sec. But there is also evidence to support the suspicions of many managers, players and supporters that United get preferential treatment at home. When Owen made it 4-3 on Sunday the game was five minutes and 26 seconds into stoppage time. In total, the referee, Martin Atkinson, allowed almost seven minutes, even though the fourth official had signalled a minimum of four. Mark Hughes, the City manager, spoke of feeling "robbed". His sense of grievance will not be helped if he analyses the last three seasons.In 2006-07, for example, United were winning 15 times on entering stoppage time and referees added an average 194.53sec. In the four games when United were not winning there was an average of 217.25sec. The following year the disparity was greater, Opta's figures showing an average 178.29sec added when United were winning and 254.5sec when they were not. Last season it was 187.71sec compared to 258.6sec.The pattern has continued in the first three games of the season. In the two games United have led they have played an average 304sec of injury time. On Sunday, Atkinson allowed the game to go on for 415sec.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/se...s-stoppage-time
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Sir Alex Ferguson likes to boast that his Manchester United team score more late goals than any other side in the world. Others argue that they get a bit of extra help from referees. It has now emerged that the Premier League champions do, as suspected, benefit from an imbalance in the amount of stoppage time that is added to their matches.After the controversy over Michael Owen's winning goal in Sunday's Manchester derby, the Guardian has looked at all of United's league matches at Old Trafford since the start of the 2006-07 season and discovered that, on average, there has been over a minute extra added by referees when United do not have the lead after 90 minutes, compared to when they are in front. In 48 games when United were ahead, the average amount of stoppage time was 191.35 seconds. In 12 matches when United were drawing or losing there was an average of 257.17sec.The average stoppage time added at Old Trafford in the period in question is below that given at Anfield, the Emirates Stadium and Stamford Bridge. United's is 205 seconds, compared to Liverpool's 210sec, Arsenal's 224sec and Chelsea's 229sec. But there is also evidence to support the suspicions of many managers, players and supporters that United get preferential treatment at home. When Owen made it 4-3 on Sunday the game was five minutes and 26 seconds into stoppage time. In total, the referee, Martin Atkinson, allowed almost seven minutes, even though the fourth official had signalled a minimum of four. Mark Hughes, the City manager, spoke of feeling "robbed". His sense of grievance will not be helped if he analyses the last three seasons.In 2006-07, for example, United were winning 15 times on entering stoppage time and referees added an average 194.53sec. In the four games when United were not winning there was an average of 217.25sec. The following year the disparity was greater, Opta's figures showing an average 178.29sec added when United were winning and 254.5sec when they were not. Last season it was 187.71sec compared to 258.6sec.The pattern has continued in the first three games of the season. In the two games United have led they have played an average 304sec of injury time. On Sunday, Atkinson allowed the game to go on for 415sec.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/se...s-stoppage-time
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Sir Alex Ferguson likes to boast that his Manchester United team score more late goals than any other side in the world. Others argue that they get a bit of extra help from referees. It has now emerged that the Premier League champions do, as suspected, benefit from an imbalance in the amount of stoppage time that is added to their matches.After the controversy over Michael Owen's winning goal in Sunday's Manchester derby, the Guardian has looked at all of United's league matches at Old Trafford since the start of the 2006-07 season and discovered that, on average, there has been over a minute extra added by referees when United do not have the lead after 90 minutes, compared to when they are in front. In 48 games when United were ahead, the average amount of stoppage time was 191.35 seconds. In 12 matches when United were drawing or losing there was an average of 257.17sec.The average stoppage time added at Old Trafford in the period in question is below that given at Anfield, the Emirates Stadium and Stamford Bridge. United's is 205 seconds, compared to Liverpool's 210sec, Arsenal's 224sec and Chelsea's 229sec. But there is also evidence to support the suspicions of many managers, players and supporters that United get preferential treatment at home. When Owen made it 4-3 on Sunday the game was five minutes and 26 seconds into stoppage time. In total, the referee, Martin Atkinson, allowed almost seven minutes, even though the fourth official had signalled a minimum of four. Mark Hughes, the City manager, spoke of feeling "robbed". His sense of grievance will not be helped if he analyses the last three seasons.In 2006-07, for example, United were winning 15 times on entering stoppage time and referees added an average 194.53sec. In the four games when United were not winning there was an average of 217.25sec. The following year the disparity was greater, Opta's figures showing an average 178.29sec added when United were winning and 254.5sec when they were not. Last season it was 187.71sec compared to 258.6sec.The pattern has continued in the first three games of the season. In the two games United have led they have played an average 304sec of injury time. On Sunday, Atkinson allowed the game to go on for 415sec.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/se...s-stoppage-time
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Typical Manchester United always cheating...Sound familiar?Don't care tbh.
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Just clocked Gary Neville ran over to celebrate in front of the City fans :D :D
Our Gary>>>>Even tried to style it out by doing star jumps
Wild man Nev facing FA rapGARY NEVILLE'S wild celebration of Michael Owen's late winner in the Manchester derby is set to land him in hot water with the FA.United's club captain, an unused sub, ran on to the pitch and then charged down the touchline towards the City fans.But realising he had gone over the top, Neville then tried to pretend he was simply warming up - despite boss Alex Ferguson having already made three substitutions.City boss Mark Hughes said: "Neville was running around like a lunatic."It is not the first time Neville has been accused of goading opposition supporters.He was fined £5,000 after celebrating a late winner against Liverpool at Old Trafford in 2006 in front of the away fans.City striker Bellamy could have to answer a charge of violent conduct after shoving a fan who invaded the pitch in the face.Hughes' side are already fighting one FA charge following Emmanuel Adebayor's goal celebration against his former side Arsenal and are likely to be told today that Bellamy must also face a disciplinary panel.He may also be questioned by police who are already trying to identify a fan who threw a coin that hit City sub Javier Garrido just above his eye.The incidents came only two days after sports minister Gerry Sutcliffe warned players they needed to act as role models or risk stronger disciplinary action being taken against their clubs in cases of serious misbehaviour.The FA are awaiting referee Martin Atkinson's match report and will be ready to act, particularly after the Adebayor incident.But City's assistant boss Mark Bowen insisted last night: "I don't think we will be taking any action against Craig."
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Sir Alex Ferguson likes to boast that his Manchester United team score more late goals than any other side in the world. Others argue that they get a bit of extra help from referees. It has now emerged that the Premier League champions do, as suspected, benefit from an imbalance in the amount of stoppage time that is added to their matches.After the controversy over Michael Owen's winning goal in Sunday's Manchester derby, the Guardian has looked at all of United's league matches at Old Trafford since the start of the 2006-07 season and discovered that, on average, there has been over a minute extra added by referees when United do not have the lead after 90 minutes, compared to when they are in front. In 48 games when United were ahead, the average amount of stoppage time was 191.35 seconds. In 12 matches when United were drawing or losing there was an average of 257.17sec.The average stoppage time added at Old Trafford in the period in question is below that given at Anfield, the Emirates Stadium and Stamford Bridge. United's is 205 seconds, compared to Liverpool's 210sec, Arsenal's 224sec and Chelsea's 229sec. But there is also evidence to support the suspicions of many managers, players and supporters that United get preferential treatment at home. When Owen made it 4-3 on Sunday the game was five minutes and 26 seconds into stoppage time. In total, the referee, Martin Atkinson, allowed almost seven minutes, even though the fourth official had signalled a minimum of four. Mark Hughes, the City manager, spoke of feeling "robbed". His sense of grievance will not be helped if he analyses the last three seasons.In 2006-07, for example, United were winning 15 times on entering stoppage time and referees added an average 194.53sec. In the four games when United were not winning there was an average of 217.25sec. The following year the disparity was greater, Opta's figures showing an average 178.29sec added when United were winning and 254.5sec when they were not. Last season it was 187.71sec compared to 258.6sec.The pattern has continued in the first three games of the season. In the two games United have led they have played an average 304sec of injury time. On Sunday, Atkinson allowed the game to go on for 415sec.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/se...s-stoppage-time
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Typical Manchester United always cheating...Sound familiar?Don't care tbh.
Was obvious from day, f*ck*ng cunts.
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that article is uselesscoz it doesnt compare the length of man united's stoppage time when losing with the other big threeits really not saying anything but i understand why supporters of other teams would take it and run with itand lol @ just using one seasontheyve gone from 06/07 to the pattern continues this season (09/10)come on now....

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