Elementalism Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Grenades are standard it seems. Most of the Army is made up of Northern recruits - from shit towns that were fucked over by consecutive Tory and Labour governments, know nothing but grafting and so most families (and therefore crime groups/gangs) have a family link. The amount of fuckery that happens in there Army... You lot might remember the black squaddies from London who tried to bring back all sorts of madness from Iraq stashed in an APC. Then there was the guy (some posh Sandhurst type) who claimed he had PTSD and had forgotten bringing home a Glock and a few thousand rounds. Dodgy quartermasters have always been a holy grail for any serious crime group. A few years some Scouse or Manny guys were rolling with Army-issue SA80-A2s and grenades. There was an interesting article about the amount of Army weaponry that has 'disappeared'. I'll dig it up. But even before that the 80s/90s was a madness. Guys like Gaddafi would have his agents meet IRA guys anywhere from Kilburn, or Manchester, Glasgow, Belfast, wherever - and arrange shipments of semtex, AK47s, RPG-7s....so a few pistols and grenades wasn't a thing. Lots of Irish families up North as well. The post-crack era, post 9/11 heroin era Manchester is a mad place. The array of guns that exist in this country is insane - WW2 era guns, Eastern Bloc variants - Croatian/Czech guns, the name brands and calibers. Up until Dunblane there were nuff regular pub guys with shooting club membership and American niche guns direct from Soldier of Fortune.Rest to Paul Massey. From what I know he ran things the old school way and worked off respect - he wasn't some massive guy, he just knew those people. None of them guys were around at the end - he was a regular human and he knew that! Sad to see his tweets leading up to his death. From my cursory research I reckon this had something to do with either the guys who were targetted in the Brass Handles pub (one guy involved named Aaron Travers had gone completely off the Google map, used to be pics up from Bernard O'mahoney's book Faces of him and David Totton) or with the 'Teflon Don' from Stockport who killed the Akinyemi dude a few years back. I could be completely off the mark, in 40+ years people make numerous enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elementalism Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2074455/300-guns-lost-stolen-Army-bases-just-years-39-found.htmlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/4927258/168-guns-lost-or-stolen-from-Armed-Forces-in-three-years.htmlhttp://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/591089/Ministry-Defence-lost-stolen-weapons-machine-guns-grenade-launcher http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/army-s-lost-guns-end-up-on-streets-1-1410487 http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/dec/30/military.ukcrimehttp://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/british-troops-sell-guns-and-drugs-241942http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/3893337.stmFFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Yea I know about some of them names and the stuff you mention well there Element. Certain things I'm just not willing to say on here though lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Grenades are standard it seems. Most of the Army is made up of Northern recruits - from sh*t towns that were f*cked over by consecutive Tory and Labour governments, know nothing but grafting and so most families (and therefore crime groups/gangs) have a family link. The amount of f*ckery that happens in there Army... You lot might remember the black squaddies from London who tried to bring back all sorts of madness from Iraq stashed in an APC. Then there was the guy (some posh Sandhurst type) who claimed he had PTSD and had forgotten bringing home a Glock and a few thousand rounds. Dodgy quartermasters have always been a holy grail for any serious crime group. A few years some Scouse or Manny guys were rolling with Army-issue SA80-A2s and grenades. There was an interesting article about the amount of Army weaponry that has 'disappeared'. I'll dig it up. But even before that the 80s/90s was a madness. Guys like Gaddafi would have his agents meet IRA guys anywhere from Kilburn, or Manchester, Glasgow, Belfast, wherever - and arrange shipments of semtex, AK47s, RPG-7s....so a few pistols and grenades wasn't a thing. Lots of Irish families up North as well. The post-crack era, post 9/11 heroin era Manchester is a mad place. The array of guns that exist in this country is insane - WW2 era guns, Eastern Bloc variants - Croatian/Czech guns, the name brands and calibers. Up until Dunblane there were nuff regular pub guys with shooting club membership and American niche guns direct from Soldier of Fortune. Rest to Paul Massey. From what I know he ran things the old school way and worked off respect - he wasn't some massive guy, he just knew those people. None of them guys were around at the end - he was a regular human and he knew that! Sad to see his tweets leading up to his death. From my cursory research I reckon this had something to do with either the guys who were targetted in the Brass Handles pub (one guy involved named Aaron Travers had gone completely off the Google map, used to be pics up from Bernard O'mahoney's book Faces of him and David Totton) or with the 'Teflon Don' from Stockport who killed the Akinyemi dude a few years back. I could be completely off the mark, in 40+ years people make numerous enemies. Calm down son that's enough internet for tonight 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elementalism Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 ^ Alright Mum.http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/david-totton-brass-handles-liv-9004641 ^ This guy was involved in all sorts of madness - I'm talking about things on public record, I don't know or claim to know anything more - but stuff from the police shooting of Anthony Grainger around the time Mark Duggan was killed. He was in a car with the brother of the guy who got shot in the pub and some white Fredo looking fiend when it went down. Got nicked and is out already. Note that this guy has a record of having issues in nightclubs (that lead to other sh*t) In Bernard's book him and the other guy are known as the 'Friends for Life'. They were mid twenties when they got lit up in the pub and those involved were all way older (except the shooters, Austin and Alveranga) - Constance Howarth (the spotter inside the pub), the driver (a top guy from Doddington I think) and then the supposed shotcaller Bobby Spiers. The shooters went into the pub during a Newcastle v Man Utd match and fired a few shots before getting overpowered by drinkers, disarmed and shot with their own guns. The pub shutters went down and the CCTV got wipe while the two hitmen were dying outside. If you check Paul's twitter in the days before he posted a few old school pictures of the Noonans (Damien, I think - the one who died) and also Bobby Spiers.So that's two bodies in the beef at least and one angry friend who wants someone who is serving time for it freed. I dunno but it seems like that loyalty cost him his life in the end, you can't do stuff like this when the person you want freed didn't actually do the crime he set out to do properly, and two people are walking around who should be dead (and know the runnings fully). Like it said it's all public record and the MEN have hinted at this sort of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restrictive Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 "McLeod calmly got out of the waiting car, checked the pair were dead and drove off." No fucks given. Wonder what ians sons doing these days, he lived the crime life... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 lol No Fucks given in this topic. Names flying about for fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incumbent Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 most of what man is saying is public knowledge tho don't see the issue / Looks a bit like Rafael there. Hol tite constable Elementalism See you, you're a next likkle dustbag.Sitting there typing f*ckery with pounded yam on your fingers. Wash your face. FERGW GRG RT GHRGH REG R4REGRWE OMG!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEAZE BALL Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 That is the best element post ever 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elementalism Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 . What you saying ag? / MEN gives zero f*cks when it comes to their reporting, their crime section is the most interesting read on a boring afternoon. Their style of reporting is similar to the Scottish newspapers or the Irish ones. They expose people left and right and the gangsters play up to the reporters - it's a weird semi spectactle, semi 'we're really serious about crime' stance. They had video interviews with that AC guy and his brother Jason is all over Twitter and the internet (as well as being followed by hipsters from Vice) for his 'legal' work in Thailand. Another link in this puzzle is Paul Ferris - Scottish guy, who got caught in a car driven by Constance Howarth (Bobby Spiers' cousin) with 3 Mac-11s inside it back in 1997 with some other top table London/Surrey gangster - was mates with Massey/Spiers. It's by the by, but that shooting was a botched job and exposed the players involved and meant things had to get sticky for one side or the other at some point IMO. Paul Massey stood his on his side, with his mate publicly while the other side moved in silence (and maybe violence?) From an outside perspective it looks like there's a new wave in Manchester and it's a Salford/Stockport linkup on a no-new-friends vibe. Old faces out and the new ones come in - and the turnover is rapid. There have defo been some power plays by the 'Friends for Life' and AC over the past few years. I don't quite understand the alliances up there but it seems that black gangs are still being used for disposable shooters by big white players. There are obviously enough Cregan types around as well, but the proescution alleged Spiers sent for McLeod who sent for his Doddington joeys to do the move so there would be no apparent comeback for Spiers on his home turf. I dunno where Akinyemi comes in, but the fact that AC bust case and hasn't had a comeback yet means he's definitely made some moves behind the scenes to keep himself safe - and the same goes for the 'Friends'. A link up along those lines makes sense to me. This is all to do with nightclubs, doors, drugs and guns - nothing more, nothing less. Pick the most likely alliances based on the available info and you're not far wrong. I'm sure GMP know this but they don't have the resources - the country is broke and these man are all rich. I dunno about you lot but this stuff interests me a great deal. I think the police have had some role in reorganizing things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 My man accidentally posted his work assignment on vip2 instead of emailing it to his superior officer 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QPR Dee Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Maybe it's because I'm high, but that elementalism write up was nice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elementalism Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Maybe it's because I'm high, but that elementalism write up was nice Nah you know this Dave, how yuh mean. My man accidentally posted his work assignment on vip2 instead of emailing it to his superior officer I literally don't care mate. Go for all the pos's you want, I'm good. Certainly people are lucky i'm not a policeman because a lot of shit would get done if I was. Just admit that you read what I wrote from start to finish and keep it moving. Me and you always buck up on some weird one and you draw for the policeman line everytime. Take another angle to criticize me. The fact you think my sleuthing skills are anywhere near a (good) policeman's level is a compliment if anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuffir Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 This guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mongy Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Akinyemi was a hitman from Cheetham Hill, mainly moved on his own though. He was sent to get rid of Aaron Coghlan (sure that's his name) who is also a known hitman from Stockport way. It backfired, Coghlan did Akinyemi, and got away with it. Sure there will be a M.E.N article somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elementalism Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Guy is moving like Al Capone. In the same house he caught the duppy. How is it white British gangsters get this sort of treatment - interviews and documentaries/book deals etc. If Akinyemi did Coghlan in, do you reckon he'd be doing interviews? He'd have been sent down for years. Krays, Richardsons, etc - all get invited for cushy sit down interviews to discuss their villainy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restrictive Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Thought I'd heard that name before in a song, "Real gangster nigga like Akinyemi" But at this picture A businessman known as the Teflon Don said yesterday that a coroner who cast doubt on his account of how he shot a man dead should be taught ‘some manners’. Arran Coghlan confronted coroner Nicholas Rheinberg at an inquest into the death at his £2million mansion and said he should show him ‘proper respect’. Mr Coghlan, 40, who has been cleared of three underworld killings, hence his nickname, told how he had shot Stephen ‘Aki’ Akinyemi in self defence in a life or death struggle after the gangster pulled a gun on him in February last year. Enlarge Arran Coghlan, pictured outside the coroner's office yesterday, confronted Nicholas Rheinberg at an inquest into the death at his £2million mansion and said he should show him 'proper respect' Stephen 'Aki' Akinyemi, 45, was found dead from a bullet to the head at the Cheshire home of Mr Coghlan But Mr Rheinberg said: ‘You managed to successfully defend yourself while completely unarmed against a man with a gun and ultimately wielding a knife. The circumstances ultimately transpired with the stronger man being shot three times. That gives me difficulty.’ Mr Coghlan replied: ‘So you think I should have died in the process? Would that have pleased you? What else could I have done? What else should I have done?’ Mr Rheinberg said: ‘One possibility is that Stephen Akinyemi had a knife and you had a gun. You shot at him three times – twice in the chest and once in the head. What do you say to that? 'I think if you were looking at this from outside, you would be surprised at your surviving, if your account is correct.’ There were dramatic scenes as Mr Coghlan was ordered to respect the court. He responded by saying: ‘You should deal with me with proper respect and allow me to answer the question.’ At the end of his evidence Mr Coghlan stood up without being excused by the coroner who asked him to ‘be seated’. Mr Coghlan demanded the coroner ‘ask politely’ and when the coroner’s clerk repeated the request he replied: ‘No problem. You might want to teach your friend some manners.’ RELATED ARTICLESPrevious 1 Next Footballer left 'paralysed' after brawl outside The Only Way Is Essex nightclub SHARE THIS ARTICLEShare Mr Rheinberg threatened to find him in contempt of court to which Mr Coghlan responded: ‘Is that you exerting your authority? Nice.’ Mr Coghlan was arrested after Akinyemi, 45, was found dead from a bullet to the head at his home in Alderley Edge, Cheshire. Mr Coghlan, pictured with his girlfriend, was arrested after Akinyemi, 45, was found dead from a bullet to the head at his home in Alderley Edge, Cheshire Two other bullets struck a stab-proof vest Akinyemi was wearing when he apparently went to the house for ‘talks’ armed with a gun and a knife, the hearing at Warrington Coroner’s Court was told. Mr Coghlan was charged with murder but the case was dropped when lawyers said they could not prove he had not acted in self defence. He said he believed police had received ‘intelligence’ that Akinyemi was going to go to his house armed but did nothing to stop him. Mr Coghlan invited the coroner to record a verdict of lawful killing and was angry when he recorded an open verdict. He claims he has been victimised by police in a decade-long campaign and is undeserving of his Teflon Don nickname as the only reason charges have not stuck is because he is innocent. In 1996, he was acquitted of the murder of drug baron Chris Little, 32. Mr Coghlan said he was playing computer games at the time. In 2002 he was accused of the 1999 murder of drug dealer David Barnshaw. The case collapsed when it was revealed police had failed to pass on information about another suspect. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2055767/Teflon-Don-Arran-Coghlans-rival-Stephen-Aki-Akinyemi-shot-dead.html#ixzz3oq4kTshm Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 In b4 destructo steps to that guy for looking at his girl thinking he looks soft and gets murdered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurus Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Any documentaries on these guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 NETFLIX Had some documentaries on it with Paul Massey and one about the old QSG men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag. Posted October 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 coghlan looks like he works at cex or hmv lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag. Posted October 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 lol how the eff did this guy beat 3 m charges the akinyemi story doesnt sound right ator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elementalism Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 There was a Bernard O Mahoney doc on Massey and Coghlan. Vice are doing something on Jason Coghlan (JCogLaw) at the moment I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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