Mame Biram Diouf Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 2. Make it harder for young people to receive out-of-work benefits. "[it] is not fair – on taxpayers, or on young people themselves – that 18-21 year-olds with no work experience should slip straight into a life on benefits without first contributing to their community. So we will introduce tougher Day One Work Requirements for young people claiming out-of-work benefits. We will replace the Jobseeker's Allowance for 18-21 year-olds with a Youth Allowance that will be time-limited to six months, after which young people will have to take an apprenticeship, a traineeship or do daily community work for their benefits. "It is also not fair that taxpayers should have to pay for 18-21 year-olds on Jobseeker's Allowance to claim Housing Benefit in order to leave home. So we will ensure that they no longer have an automatic entitlement to Housing Benefit." This is why I will never vote Conservative. How out of touch can you be. After six months what is the chance jobs or apprenticeships will exist for everyone. Especially in the case of the available apprenticeships not being what you want to do. Smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest babatundestacks Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Yeah thats a bit f*cked up tbh but as the saying goes. G A B O S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Crack Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 The majority of the country voted for it why complain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermalt Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 The majority of the country voted for it why complain? no. 36% of the country voted tory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yung bawse Posted May 16, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Got it backwards, I'd rather my tax money go towards young 18-21 year olds who are struggling instead of 30-50 year olds who have no excuse for not having their shit together at that age 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Martinez Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Policies like these is how Britain keeps social mobility to a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 What is wrong with doing daily community work for your benefits? Especially if you are fit, young, and have not paid anything into the system? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afroman Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 What is wrong with doing daily community work for your benefits? Especially if you are fit, young, and have not paid anything into the system? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yung bawse Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Dunno why people keep saying "paid anything into the system" .. Barry the 45 year old brick layer who's just lost his job is not spending long on benefits, it's a quick stop-gap until he can find more work, the benefit abusers are the 1s who are 30+ and never come off benefits, those are the 1s who should have to work for their benefits.. Give the kids a break, ent easy for young people ouchea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 innit, we pay our taxes to help the country developing, that includes investing in the youth Apprenticeships pay lower than minimum wage, if they're going to force people into them the least they can do is make minimum pay for apprenticeships match that of normal employment (even if that means using government subsidies) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN DOE Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Tht saying is meant to revolve around a criminal lifestyle not everyday life / UK in a shambles in what way is the uk in a shambles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Daily community work should be reserved for them guys 26+ long term on benefits without a good reason such as young kids, carer or ill. Priority should be getting all youth qualified for a trade or profession. Doing community work as a disgruntled teenager would be the biggest reason to start trapping but i see the conservatives got that covered with more prisons. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mame Biram Diouf Posted May 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Daily community work should be reserved for them guys 26+ long term on benefits without a good reason such as young kids, carer or ill. Priority should be getting all youth qualified for a trade or profession. Doing community work as a disgruntled teenager would be the biggest reason to start trapping but i see the conservatives got that covered with more prisons. Trust me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodpecker Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 It's a good idea, get people to get a trade or profession. Train people with skills for life instead of feeding them (crumbs btw compared to the welfare in other EU countries). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuffir Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Doing community work as a disgruntled teenager would be the biggest reason to start trapping but i see the conservatives got that covered with more prisons. trust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Daily community work should be reserved for them guys 26+ long term on benefits without a good reason such as young kids, carer or ill. Priority should be getting all youth qualified for a trade or profession. Doing community work as a disgruntled teenager would be the biggest reason to start trapping but i see the conservatives got that covered with more prisons. Of course, I agree with with your second point. But what is wrong with 18-21 doing daily community work for their benefits, if they are not in education or training? What else would they be doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meticulous Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 they should do this for all ages not just 18-21 yr olds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Daily community work should be reserved for them guys 26+ long term on benefits without a good reason such as young kids, carer or ill. Priority should be getting all youth qualified for a trade or profession. Doing community work as a disgruntled teenager would be the biggest reason to start trapping but i see the conservatives got that covered with more prisons. Of course, I agree with with your second point. But what is wrong with 18-21 doing daily community work for their benefits, if they are not in education or training? What else would they be doing? If you're going to force them to do something beneficial for the country than get them jobs where they can gain skills with some financial incentives or the military. Also if you have all these youth working for free don't you think they're going to push out paid jobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Daily community work should be reserved for them guys 26+ long term on benefits without a good reason such as young kids, carer or ill. Priority should be getting all youth qualified for a trade or profession. Doing community work as a disgruntled teenager would be the biggest reason to start trapping but i see the conservatives got that covered with more prisons. Of course, I agree with with your second point. But what is wrong with 18-21 doing daily community work for their benefits, if they are not in education or training? What else would they be doing? If you're going to force them to do something beneficial for the country than get them jobs where they can gain skills with some financial incentives or the military. Also if you have all these youth working for free don't you think they're going to push out paid jobs? I said if they are not in education or training. Requiring them to do work within their community while recieving benefits, should incentivise them to seek out opportunities for education or training. I'm not sure how popular compulsory military service would be. Well no. It's clearly a stop-gap policy, not a permanent one. Furthemore ideally, they would take on civic duties, and not ones that benefit private firms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Ultimately, these policies are not sufficient. There are two huge elephants in the room: immigration and globalisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Infamous Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 they should do this for all ages not just 18-21 yr olds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afroman Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 If u look really hard there is jobs out there the problem is alot of people are just simply too lazy Truss.. Its definitely Laziness Got one council tenant, this guy is young, work fit and able (No excuses not to be in employment). Never worked a day in his life. I asked him why he doesn't work? He said he cant find a job because they ask for experience every time he has tried I asked him what kind of Job he was looking for? He said he wants to get into health care. Cool, Anyway, spoke to my girl to get him a job at the hospital 2 years back. He wants to branch into healthcare and needs experience. This guy managed to wing himself out of an interview with some other lame excuses. He was too comfortable with the benefits, rent paid for, Food & other extras. Look, me personally, I am all for benefits for anyone trying to get their life back on track. But, the incentive to work & earn is just not attractive enough for many to leave that life on the dole alone. Benefits should be a safety net for those who are just unable to work due to health or lost their Job. its not some compulsory entitlement They are so many access courses & apprenticeships already available all paid for by the government. I completely agree with those fit & able for work need to earn their benefit is some way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Ferguson Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 What is wrong with doing daily community work for your benefits? Especially if you are fit, young, and have not paid anything into the system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Ferguson Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 If u look really hard there is jobs out there the problem is alot of people are just simply too lazy Truss.. Its definitely Laziness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 If u look really hard there is jobs out there the problem is alot of people are just simply too lazy Truss.. Its definitely Laziness and the fact alot turn the nose up at jobs they think are beneath them & blame the polish people for shit paid jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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