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Swap young for fellaini and that's what he will go with imo
Manchester United supporters worried about their team's start to the season can be heartened by the words of David Moyes' No.2 Steve Round.
He told the Manchester Evening News: "I have also worked with some top managers and learnt from them... Steve McClaren, Sam Allardyce and Kevin Keegan. I have taken bits from them all."
You really couldn't make it up
He claims that the current squad doesn't meet the standard he sees for the squad in his vision, regardless of their prior achievements. That f*cking delights me, it's called ambition. When he makes such statements, it's not to discourage the squad. It's to signal his intent to those who are responsible for helping him achieve that ambition. Que the next transfer window
All down to semantics really, some players will use his comments as an excuse to fail. Some will use it as an excuse to turn against the manager and some will use it as motivation to prove themselves their worth and their ability.
I know which type of player I want at the club. Fuck the other two.
Players rarely play for a manager anyways
But it does not tale a lot for a player to become disheartened or to look at a manager after he gives instructions like ' yh whatever you joker'
Happens in day to day jobs all the time
Players play for the pay check and sometimes the club and if they a fan for the fans
Rare they play for a manager... Mourinho is one, only a few in the game
Also if mourinho said someone is not good enough they would try prove him wrong
If moyes says you are not good enough your likely tto think... Hold on mate look at my medals now what have you won, who have you managed ???
He HAS to hit one of those everton forms they have after xmas
Long term he is not the answer if he is to stick with the likes of round
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Hey guys, Flojo is right. During these dark times us United fans should offer the same amount of time and support that Flojo had for Hodgson during his reign at Liverpool.
In one.
I remember being told us Liverpool fans didn't give Hodgson a chance, that he was a good manager really and we were wrong for being pissed off at him constantly lowering expectations by talking down the quality of our squad and talking up our opponents (every team were formidable opponents according to Woy).
Well here we have a carbon copy situation with you and Moyes and most Man Utd fans are at a loss to understand what's happening or how to respond.
Schadenfreude.
Remember when Woy suggested that United would be in for Torres if Rooney left, lol.
f*ck, we really have become Woy's Liverpool. From the Jurassic Park tactics to the foot in mouth press conferences to the poor man management to the exceptions being lowered more times than a limbo bar.
It's eerily similar and having been through it I feel your pain which is why I'm bouncing off the walls at what's to come.
The first few times he makes some weird comments you think 'eh?' then after a while you're thinking 'Just shut the fuck up' but he just keeps talking.
Then there's the acceptance by other fans that actually begin to agree with what he's saying about what should be expected and you find yourself viewed as the delusional bastardised fan that isn't backing the manager.
Then there's that feeling of dread every time saturday comes around because you don't actually want to watch your own team play.
Bad times, It's beautiful.
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Hey guys, Flojo is right. During these dark times us United fans should offer the same amount of time and support that Flojo had for Hodgson during his reign at Liverpool.
In one.
I remember being told us Liverpool fans didn't give Hodgson a chance, that he was a good manager really and we were wrong for being pissed off at him constantly lowering expectations by talking down the quality of our squad and talking up our opponents (every team were formidable opponents according to Woy).
Well here we have a carbon copy situation with you and Moyes and most Man Utd fans are at a loss to understand what's happening or how to respond.
Schadenfreude.
Remember when Woy suggested that United would be in for Torres if Rooney left, lol.
f*ck, we really have become Woy's Liverpool. From the Jurassic Park tactics to the foot in mouth press conferences to the poor man management to the exceptions being lowered more times than a limbo bar.
It's eerily similar and having been through it I feel your pain which is why I'm bouncing off the walls at what's to come.
The first few times he makes some weird comments you think 'eh?' then after a while you're thinking 'Just shut the f*ck up' but he just keeps talking.
Then there's the acceptance by other fans that actually begin to agree with what he's saying about what should be expected and you find yourself viewed as the delusional bastardised fan that isn't backing the manager.
Then there's that feeling of dread every time saturday comes around because you don't actually want to watch your own team play.
Bad times, It's beautiful.
+1
You said what's to come like I'm not already relating to that whole post
Lineup: Amos, Varela, M Keane, Thorpe, Fabio, Zaha, Ekangamene, Januzaj, Cole, James, W Keane
Played better ball than our first team lol
Jan and Zaha took on more players than Young and Valencia this season so far tonight
this game in the Ukraine is a going to be so much pain to sit through on Wednesday, I beg January comes quick
Neville said Moyes will be given 3 years
And players will go before him
Looololololol
Someone just told me Zaha is beating Moyes' daughter 
David Moyes promised Glazer dollars to reshape Manchester United squad
James Ducker
Last updated October 01 2013 1:01AM
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Moyes is expected to make a foray into the transfer market in January
Martin Rickett
American owners ready to fund manager’s call for world-class players
David Moyes will be given substantial funds to reshape his Manchester United squad with the Glazer family recognising that the manager requires world-class reinforcements to help to maintain Sir Alex Ferguson’s legacy of success.
The United manager is expected to make a foray into the transfer market in January providing leading targets become available as the Barclays Premier League champions look to put the frustrations of a miserable summer behind them.
United have endured their worst start to a season for 24 years after successive league defeats against Manchester City and West Bromwich Albion and will hope their problems do not mount when they face Shakhtar Donetsk in Ukraine in the Champions League tomorrow.
The torrid start has brought into sharp focus United’s failings in the summer, when they missed out on half a dozen players and paid over the odds for Marouane Fellaini. The club’s American owners, though, insist that United can compete for the best players.
The Glazers are thought to share Moyes’s view that the squad needs strengthening in key areas and will not balk at spending well in excess of £100 million to ensure they remain successful in the coming years.
Moyes suggested after the 4-1 capitulation away to City that he needed at least two players who could immediately improve the team as well as claiming that the club were short of the “five or six world-class players” he believes are required to stand a realistic chance of winning the Champions League.
The Glazers accept that the Premier League is likely to be far more competitive this season given the acute under-achievements of City and Chelsea last term and the apparent improvements made by teams such as Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool among others.
There is also recognition that United’s triumph by an 11-point margin does not present an accurate reflection of the challenge facing Moyes as he embarks on a rebuilding process that is likely to involve several high-profile arrivals and departures. United’s shortcomings in midfield have been well documented and several players who provided a bedrock of success for Ferguson are well into their thirties.
Rio Ferdinand is likely to be one casualty as the 34-year-old centre half — out of contract in June — is phased out with Moyes eager to promote Phil Jones, whose chances in central defence have been severely limited, in addition to strengthening the back four. Jones or Jonny Evans could partner Nemanja Vidic in central defence against Shakhtar after Ferdinand’s struggles against City and West Bromwich.
The future of Shinji Kagawa, the Japan midfielder signed by Ferguson from Borussia Dortmund for a projected £17.6 million last year, is also understood to be in some doubt, especially since Wayne Rooney is first choice in the No 10 role.
Kagawa’s troubles continued when he was replaced at half-time in the 2-1 defeat by West Brom — his first league start of the season — and he admitted yesterday that he would have to raise his game if he is to have any chance of staying at Old Trafford.
“I was disappointed [to have been substituted],” he said. “However, I have to take this like some kind of message [from the manager]. I need to improve more and more, or I can not survive at this club. I have to take this in a positive light and keep trying to do my best.”
Ferguson was usually reluctant to conduct transfer business in January but the club will be happy to break with tradition if Moyes identifies key targets he wants to sign.
United continue to keep tabs on Ander Herrera, whom they have been monitoring for 2½ years, but the £25.6 million bid they had rejected for the Spain Under-23 midfielder last month was at the upper limit of their valuation. As such, it seems unlikely at this stage that the club would be prepared to meet the €36 million (£30.2 million) release clause in his contract with Athletic Bilbao.
Andrés Iniesta’s situation at Barcelona is being watched from a distance but there is little expectation of the Spain midfielder leaving the Nou Camp. Ilkay Gundogan, the Borussia Dortmund midfielder, also has his admirers among United’s coaching staff.
It remains to be seen whether United make a renewed effort to buy Leighton Baines or Fabio Coentrão, the Everton and Real Madrid left backs for whom they had bids rejected in the summer, or pursue a younger target, such as Luke Shaw, of Southampton.
Eliaquim Mangala, the highly regarded Porto centre half, is regarded as a potential successor to Ferdinand, although Moyes faces competition from Chelsea, City and several leading European clubs for the 22-year-old, who has a reported €45 million release clause in his contract.
United insist they did not panic in the summer, despite failing with bids for Herrera, Daniele De Rossi, the Roma midfielder, and Gareth Bale, who joined Real Madrid from Tottenham Hotspur, in addition to Baines and Coentrão, in the final 96 hours of the window after conceding defeat in their protracted attempts to sign Cesc Fàbregas, the Barcelona midfielder.
Nonetheless, there is an acceptance that certain things could have been done differently and the club have wondered whether they should have bought Moyes out of his contract with Everton, which would have enabled him to begin work immediately after the season ended on May 19 rather than wait until the start of his deal on July 1.
Although keeping Rooney, the England striker who was the subject of two bids from Chelsea, was a priority, United’s only significant addition was Fellaini, for whom they paid Everton £27.5 million, £4 million more than the fee stipulated in a clause in his contract that expired at the end of July.
David Moyes promised Glazer dollars to reshape Manchester United squad
James Ducker
Last updated October 01 2013 1:01AM
1 of 3
Moyes is expected to make a foray into the transfer market in January
Martin Rickett
American owners ready to fund manager’s call for world-class players
David Moyes will be given substantial funds to reshape his Manchester United squad with the Glazer family recognising that the manager requires world-class reinforcements to help to maintain Sir Alex Ferguson’s legacy of success.
The United manager is expected to make a foray into the transfer market in January providing leading targets become available as the Barclays Premier League champions look to put the frustrations of a miserable summer behind them.
United have endured their worst start to a season for 24 years after successive league defeats against Manchester City and West Bromwich Albion and will hope their problems do not mount when they face Shakhtar Donetsk in Ukraine in the Champions League tomorrow.
The torrid start has brought into sharp focus United’s failings in the summer, when they missed out on half a dozen players and paid over the odds for Marouane Fellaini. The club’s American owners, though, insist that United can compete for the best players.
The Glazers are thought to share Moyes’s view that the squad needs strengthening in key areas and will not balk at spending well in excess of £100 million to ensure they remain successful in the coming years.
Moyes suggested after the 4-1 capitulation away to City that he needed at least two players who could immediately improve the team as well as claiming that the club were short of the “five or six world-class players” he believes are required to stand a realistic chance of winning the Champions League.
The Glazers accept that the Premier League is likely to be far more competitive this season given the acute under-achievements of City and Chelsea last term and the apparent improvements made by teams such as Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool among others.
There is also recognition that United’s triumph by an 11-point margin does not present an accurate reflection of the challenge facing Moyes as he embarks on a rebuilding process that is likely to involve several high-profile arrivals and departures. United’s shortcomings in midfield have been well documented and several players who provided a bedrock of success for Ferguson are well into their thirties.
Rio Ferdinand is likely to be one casualty as the 34-year-old centre half — out of contract in June — is phased out with Moyes eager to promote Phil Jones, whose chances in central defence have been severely limited, in addition to strengthening the back four. Jones or Jonny Evans could partner Nemanja Vidic in central defence against Shakhtar after Ferdinand’s struggles against City and West Bromwich.
The future of Shinji Kagawa, the Japan midfielder signed by Ferguson from Borussia Dortmund for a projected £17.6 million last year, is also understood to be in some doubt, especially since Wayne Rooney is first choice in the No 10 role.
Kagawa’s troubles continued when he was replaced at half-time in the 2-1 defeat by West Brom — his first league start of the season — and he admitted yesterday that he would have to raise his game if he is to have any chance of staying at Old Trafford.
“I was disappointed [to have been substituted],” he said. “However, I have to take this like some kind of message [from the manager]. I need to improve more and more, or I can not survive at this club. I have to take this in a positive light and keep trying to do my best.”
Ferguson was usually reluctant to conduct transfer business in January but the club will be happy to break with tradition if Moyes identifies key targets he wants to sign.
United continue to keep tabs on Ander Herrera, whom they have been monitoring for 2½ years, but the £25.6 million bid they had rejected for the Spain Under-23 midfielder last month was at the upper limit of their valuation. As such, it seems unlikely at this stage that the club would be prepared to meet the €36 million (£30.2 million) release clause in his contract with Athletic Bilbao.
Andrés Iniesta’s situation at Barcelona is being watched from a distance but there is little expectation of the Spain midfielder leaving the Nou Camp. Ilkay Gundogan, the Borussia Dortmund midfielder, also has his admirers among United’s coaching staff.
It remains to be seen whether United make a renewed effort to buy Leighton Baines or Fabio Coentrão, the Everton and Real Madrid left backs for whom they had bids rejected in the summer, or pursue a younger target, such as Luke Shaw, of Southampton.
Eliaquim Mangala, the highly regarded Porto centre half, is regarded as a potential successor to Ferdinand, although Moyes faces competition from Chelsea, City and several leading European clubs for the 22-year-old, who has a reported €45 million release clause in his contract.
United insist they did not panic in the summer, despite failing with bids for Herrera, Daniele De Rossi, the Roma midfielder, and Gareth Bale, who joined Real Madrid from Tottenham Hotspur, in addition to Baines and Coentrão, in the final 96 hours of the window after conceding defeat in their protracted attempts to sign Cesc Fàbregas, the Barcelona midfielder.
Nonetheless, there is an acceptance that certain things could have been done differently and the club have wondered whether they should have bought Moyes out of his contract with Everton, which would have enabled him to begin work immediately after the season ended on May 19 rather than wait until the start of his deal on July 1.
Although keeping Rooney, the England striker who was the subject of two bids from Chelsea, was a priority, United’s only significant addition was Fellaini, for whom they paid Everton £27.5 million, £4 million more than the fee stipulated in a clause in his contract that expired at the end of July.
junk
Read up to iniesta
Laughed and stopped reading
Imagine he joined man utd, whilst moyes is still in charge lol ffs
Moyes will do fuck all in January.
... And probably in the summer too, given that the world cups gonna inflate everyones prices
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The future isnt bright for united as long as Moyes remains in charge
When he was linked to us i was fuming, wouldnt even replace harry with him.
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