The Official Manchester United Thread

[Marly Mar]

I genuinely think Moyes won't last

I saw Carricks interview on MOTD..no respect!

[Young £]

Young £ what position do think is best suited for Fellani?

DM then AM

 

I know you think he ain't a defensive midfielder and he is better suited forward to make use of his physical traits..

 

but honestly we are going into these games with one hand tied behind our backs because of our set up

[darkman]

The problem I see is Fellani at his best at Everton was always playing further forward but I don't think he is good enough to play in that position for Man U

 

I don't think he has the tackling, positioning, anticipation etc be a good DM either

 

Another problem is his immobility so the number of positions he can play is limited

[Agony]

[LS]

Sorry but Rooney is a massive liability.

 

I don't care what stats are shown and how many goals he scores, the guy is costing UTD.

 

The amount of times he lost the ball, not in southampton's half but outside his own box.

 

He tries stupid stuff and thinks he can get away with it.   He got made like a school kid last night the way they hounded the ball off him.   Then he gets angry and tries his stupid lunges.

 

Utd have a counter attack, Rooney decides to spray the ball with the outisde of his boot (hollywood pass) and it just goes out of play, southampton has possesion again..

 

 

He can't play that #10 role (if you can even call it that) 

 

Obviously he had some nice pieces of play, but this guy is one of the biggest earners in the world in the game, have to expect more from him.

 

 

Moyes subs are crazy as well

 

I think Moyes just got to stick to pushing Fellaini up front with RVP,  have Rooney and Welbeck on the wings and 2 in the middle holding and just stick to hoofing it up top, will deffo get better results than what he's trying to do right now.

[Flojo]

The problem in my opinion is that David Moyes isn't the right manager for Man United.

 

But you gave him the job based on the recommendation of your most successful manager (huge mistake), gave him free reign to completely change the back room staff,  made a point of talking about the need for patience and stability and given him a 6 year contract so you're now in a stick or twist situation because he's got off to a bad start ( I actually don't think it's a bad start it's just what I expected from Moyes ).

 

the current situation will split the fan base as well, some fans will be calling for patience and others will already be of the opinion he isn't good enough but the latter are going to be hugely disappointed because it's clear people with a lot of influence fall into the former group.

 

 

Just get behind him lol

[Agony]

In response to @raymondverheije's tweets a United fan is trying to tell me that Rooney as a number 10 is as good as Ozil and certainly better than Eriksen and Mata and that Moyes was unlucky and just needs time, smh. These people make me sick. 

[darkman]

Moyes needs time. I'd agree with that

 

I knew he would struggle with the squad he inherited unless improvements were made. My problem with him is the defeatist attitude he has shown thus far

 

Someone needs to remind him he's managing the biggest club in the world

[Kompressor]

I'm hearing Moyes is a small time manager with a small Time mentality.

To the people who have this train of thought, why do you believe he was employed at this time?

The people in charge surely would've known that this was a mainly a upper midtable manager who has won nothing.

So again, ask yourself why arguably "the biggest club in the world" employed this man as a successor to one of the greatest to ever do it?

Genuinely interested to hear people's views on this.

They're idiots, Fergies been going senile for years & they didn't want Man UTD in the hands of a foreigner

Them being "footballing idiots" or a little unknowing in regard to the football side might hold some weight, but even they understand league positioning Champions league qualification and how to read a honours list.

Fergie not wanting foreigners at the helm might've held some weight in the early 2000's but since then he's taken on more influence from across the world, signed more foreigners and had foreign coaches running the playing side of things on a daily basis the majority of the time.

When looking at the Moyes appointment

the criteria used to appoint him would be interesting to look at. I have heard the phrase "Net transfer king" a few times.

We've heard the term "transitional period" how long do the board invisige this period to last for?

It's feasible that another share issue could be a possibility in the not too distant future, (one that is actually worthwhile in terms of people who might want to run a football club)

January and then again the summer will be interesting in terms of transfers as United don't have a manager as good or as proven as the rivals at the moment. This can be negated by giving the manager decent funds to bridge the gap.

However if you employ a manager who is below the quality of his peers and give him less money than his peers I don't think they'll be totally surprised that we are of the pace.

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that in the next 3/4 years the debt will be significantly lower and shares floated to enable other people to have a say in how the club is run come in.

Depending on who those people are this could help the club up spending or less to even less being spent, (doubtful)

It may also change the criteria of how a manager is selected.

I believe Woodward has taken part in a fans forum here he said Baines was the number one summer target. Has anyone else got any info on that?

Finally back on the why was Moyes appointed question, imagine if say Jose was appointed ahead of Moyes and the transfer deals were handled in exactly the same way as they were this summer. Can you imagine the press conferences? In fairness to him Moyes has said more than I thought he would on the issue but he's still been pretty tame considering that when he came in he said he was told there was "no limit in terms of budget" (he mightve missinderstood that) and said himself that he wants to bring in a couple midfielders amongst others.

[Mame Biram Diouf]

"The Spanish style of football is my type of football and with Roberto it is very different.

 

"Every day I have spoken with him and it's helped my confidence.

 

"It's better because under David Moyes I was not as free but now I am on the line (out wide) more under Roberto - it's different but that's what Roberto wants me to do.

 

"I feel I am more consistent now. I play better and better. The first game I was not so good and felt tired but now my body is excellent and everything is okay."

 

lol

 

Another one

[anelka]

Worrying times for Utd here

 

I don't think it's a poor squad at all

 

Moyes is new to this, he's making cowardly decisions - once he figures it out he should be ok

[Agony]

Poor tactics and team selections are more to blame than the lack of reinforcements in the transfer window

 

 

 

 

Look at them pics and think of Kagawa and other top #10's in general. They would all be playing in between the lines finding space around where the ref is, coming short to collect the ball. But Rooney is trying to make the same runs as RVP which messes up our overall game and forces us to either play a hopeless long ball over the top or out wide for another cross.

 

 

Later on in the game RVP takes the initiative to come short for the ball to do what Rooney should be doing but it shouldn't be that way.

 

In the 2nd pic Cleverley is on the ball. Swap him with any of our summer midfield targets and you still got the same problem which is limited passing options available because of the tactics.

 

 

[darkman]

You wouldn't because Fab and Thiago have vision and creativity unlike Clevs

[Agony]

You wouldn't because Fab and Thiago have vision and creativity unlike Clevs

 

They would be playing in CM in a rigid 4-4-2 with 2 wingers far away from them hugging the touchline and 2 strikers far away from them on the shoulder of the last defender vs teams playing a midfield trio = Limited options in front of them 

[darkman]

They can both drive forward with the ball, commit players, see passes that Clev doesn't

 

Fabregas has goals in him too

[Mame Biram Diouf]

They can both drive forward with the ball, commit players, see passes that Clev doesn't

 

Fabregas has goals in him too

 

You do know that Clevs drives forward with the ball the most of our midfielders yea?

 

You dont even watch him play

[gattsu]

Claverley's name shouldn't even be in the same sentence as them two. He wouldn't look out of place in a mid table team smh

[darkman]

They can both drive forward with the ball, commit players, see passes that Clev doesn't

 

Fabregas has goals in him too

 

You do know that Clevs drives forward with the ball the most of our midfielders yea?

 

You dont even watch him play

 

Drives forward but he doesn't do anything. He doesn't see a pass or make a pass

 

Claverley's name shouldn't even be in the same sentence as them two. He wouldn't look out of place in a mid table team smh

 

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[i5_PRODUCER]

Claverley's name shouldn't even be in the same sentence as them two. He wouldn't look out of place in a mid table team smh

 

 

Would shine tbh

 

Clearly Cleverly is good with 1 2s its his final ball that is lacking. Also his chances in front of goal are shocking.

[Agony]

 

 

So instead of focusing on the tactical problem and the space in between that triangle of Sunderland players that isn't being occupied by Rooney or preferably Kagawa we're just gonna turn this into a Cleverley vs Fabregas debate, smh. I'm out.

[darkman]

Excuse me, who doesn't play?

[darkman]

 

 

So instead of focusing on the tactical problem and the space in between that triangle of Sunderland players that isn't being occupied by Rooney or preferably Kagawa we're just gonna turn this into a Cleverley vs Fabregas debate, smh. I'm out.

 

Smh you started the debate by saying "swap him with any of our transfer targets"

 

I'm baffled by you Man U fans. Are you saying your central midfield of is good enough?

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Excuse me, who doesn't play?

 

Its alright

 

I will break it down

 

Moyes first 11, Welbeck, Anderson and Cleverly do not start

 

If Welbeck does get a chance its left midfield lol

 

Cba for your tr0lling today

 

Have a good one

 

Try turn my comment on Cleverly into my comparing him to Thiago and Cesc, almost had me there fella