The Official Manchester United Thread

[Flojo]

Cool

 

You think you're gonna entice Klopp with money?

[Flojo]

Bayern's press officer on Pep to Manchester Utd: "Tell the people in England: no chance".

 

[The Infamous]

is that timmy on the far right lmaooo

Taking the piss

[Gambino]

Blatently gonna end up with Van Gaal anyways. Another manager most people ain't too keen on, or at least the people I know.

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Flojo >>>>>

By any means necessary

[Fresh]

He's like that cliché villain who grew up in the jealous shadow of the Hero, and spends his entire lifetime trying to upstage him. Then when he finally gets some powers and some limelight of his own all the crowd can see is a c*nt.

[kerser]

Wa'appen wid phil Neville and the other Everton staff he bought in?

R they staying or going too?

[Agony]

Giggs is keeping Phil and the GK coach and got rid of the other 2 earlier today.

[JOHN DOE]

even though i wanted man gone 

 

in my entire fotball supporting life ive never gone through a manager sacking

feels very surreal/weird

[Flojo]

He's like that cliché villain who grew up in the jealous shadow of the Hero, and spends his entire lifetime trying to upstage him. Then when he finally gets some powers and some limelight of his own all the crowd can see is a c*nt.

 

 

I apologise if me asking you to clarify some attempt at a cryptic message that allows you in hindsight to potentially say I told you so whilst sitting on the fence right now is problematic.

 

I understand that you're trying to be more careful with your predictions as the last time you were brash in your predictions it made you appear to be disillusioned and a bit of a mug as a result of being out of touch with how it is for the majority of fans. 

 

The baptism of fire has definitely made some impact.

[Fresh]

I predict this.

Our clipper baptism wont send us on a 24 year domestic drought.

[The Infamous]

Boy I would not be so sure. Man U aint winning no title in the next 5 years minimum

Even getting CL will be hard for u next season

[Haze-e]

Lol

[Wavant]

Lol

 

Lol this guy.

[Agony]

Dave is gone and Lahi and Flojo are still making Moyes era predictions

[skrapz]God bless you[/skrapz]

[ShadyOne]

 

Lol

 

Lol this guy.

 

 

Truss

[Flojo]

Dave is gone and Lahi and Flojo are still making Moyes era predictions

[skrapz]God bless you[/skrapz]

 

 

 

lol you see that's the thing, I know there's a possibility that you could get a manager who waves a magic wand and restores you to your former glory but there's every chance that isn't going to happen.

 

I have been ribbing you for months because you're a part of a generation of Man Utd fans who've become accustomed to talking wicked recklessly, certain guys are 25-30 having never experienced anything but assured success yett felt qualified to tell everyone else how straight forward things are.

 

One little taste of turmoil and we've really got to see what they're about.

 

I don't know how things are going to pan out for you but more importantly for the first time in your lives, neither do you.

 

 

[Haze-e]

Loooooooool the gif

[Seydou]

Ffs bro..

[Agony]

Actually when Arsenal won the league undefeated, then Chelsea won back 2 back titles with a billionaire owner I didn't know how things was gonna pan out but we jumped back on the board and rode the wave

The reality is you and the rest of the Moyes boys society can hope and try(like Dave) to kill my vibe all you want but the only way is up when moving on from a manager that according to The Times was seen reading this book...

Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make the Leap... and Others Don't is a management book by James C. Collins that aims to describe how companies transition from being average companies to great companies and how companies can fail to make the transition. The book was published on October 16, 2001 by William Collins. "Greatness" is defined as financial performance several multiples better than the market average over a sustained period. Collins finds the main factor for achieving the transition to be a narrow focusing of the company’s resources on their field of competence.

...on the plane back from Olympiakos.

[Agony]

From The Times:

Sacked Manchester United manager was scorned during loss to Olympiacos

Piraeus, February 25. There were only seconds left of Manchester United’s wretched 2-0 defeat by Olympiacos in the first leg of their Champions League round-of-16 tie when David Moyes began remonstrating with the fourth official. Out of the United manager’s earshot, but loud enough it seemed for Steve Round, Moyes’s assistant, to hear, came a shout from a disgruntled player — “Send him off, we’d be better off”. On the substitutes’ bench, there were astonished glances. Had they really just heard that?

About 20 minutes earlier, his team trailing and flailing, Moyes had signalled his intention to bring on Marouane Fellaini up front, a final, desperate throw of the dice to salvage something from the game and avert more acute embarrassment. It was a gut instinct, yet one that was met with immediate concern from Ryan Giggs, the player-coach, who felt that hoofing the ball long to the Belgium midfielder was not the way to go about trying to rescue things. Moyes relented.

The pressure that night must have been intense — indeed, it was the moment that signalled the beginning of the end for Moyes — but the incidents are instructive, the first for underlining the extent of the dressing-room discontent, the second for highlighting the indecision that was a recurring theme during the manager’s miserable ten months in charge.

It has been said that Moyes lost the dressing room, but that is not strictly true. He never really had it, and as the weeks turned into months, the misgivings and dissatisfaction only grew. The overwhelming feeling, which took hold long before that chastening night in Greece, was that he was a decent man who was out of his depth.

The irony is that it required him to lose his job before he found his true voice — Moyes was said to have cut an impressive, forthright figure in his farewell address to the players at the club’s Carrington headquarters yesterday.

There had been moments before when he had caught the players’ full attention, notably when telling them during a furious tirade after the FA Cup third-round defeat at home to Swansea City in January that they were “not fit to wear the shirt”, but not enough. Tellingly, the mood was vastly more upbeat during the first post-Moyes training session, which was led by Giggs and Nicky Butt.

For all the frustration with the one-dimensional tactics and the inherent caution, little dismayed the players as much as Moyes’s poor squad management and mixed messages. Some were overused to the point of fatigue and then barely seen again for weeks, others chronically under-used only suddenly to be hurried in from the cold in emergency situations.

Nor was there any consistency of selection. Rio Ferdinand started seven of United’s opening eight matches of the season then hardly featured for the next 4½ months. The defender’s appearance on that night against Olympiacos was only his third start in 17 matches, and how it showed. Danny Welbeck, Shinji Kagawa, Ashley Young, Javier Hernández and Darren Fletcher all encountered similar treatment.

Tom Cleverley started eight games in just 24 days from mid-December, but when tired legs contributed to him giving away a penalty in the last of those matches — against Sunderland in the Capital One Cup — the England midfielder was barely seen for another 3½ weeks.

At least two players went to see Moyes to complain about a lacking of playing time. They were told if they didn’t like it he would not stand in their way this summer. Others felt he was unable to restore their confidence or ensure those on the periphery felt included.

Under Sir Alex Ferguson, players were accustomed to being told the team the night before a game. Moyes tended to wait until the pre-match meeting three hours before kick-off before naming his and the substitutes only 90 minutes before the game. Mentally, the players felt they needed longer to prepare, a frustration articulated by Ferdinand. “You spend a lot of nervous energy thinking, ‘Am I playing, am I not playing?’ ” he said. “Keep just going round in circles in your head, enough to turn you into a madman.”

Moyes would be the first to reject suggestions that he was harder on the younger players than the senior ones. Yet the decision to discipline Welbeck, Young and Cleverley for a late night out in Manchester — 24 hours after the club’s elimination by Bayern Munich in the Champions League quarter-finals — even though the players had been granted four days off and not broken any rules, seemed strange given what had transpired only a few weeks earlier.

On that occasion, a player turned up about an hour late for training looking worse for wear, but no punishment was believed to have been forthcoming. Was there also an overindulgence of Robin van Persie, with whom there were rumours — always denied — of fallouts and disagreements?

Dressing rooms are no different to offices — some colleagues get on, others don’t — but by the end it was noted that certain potentially divisive cliques were beginning to develop.

Back to Piraeus. On the plane home, Moyes was spotted with a copy of Good to Great — Why Some Companies Make The Leap . . . And Others Don’t, a management book by Jim Collins. It was fitting — a good manager trying yet failing to make the jump to becoming a great one.

Once at Manchester airport, a posse of photographers were waiting to take Moyes’s picture. The colour seemed to drain instantly from his face once he spotted them and, motioning to his father, David Sr, next to him, he could not disappear from view quickly enough. Ultimately, the immensity of it all was just too much.

The choosing ones: the men responsible for selecting Moyes’s successor

Joel and Avram Glazer

The United co-chairmen will sanction the final decision over the new manager, although they are likely to be heavily guided by their executive team.

Ed Woodward

The former City of London accountant is the club’s executive vice-chairman. He has been criticised in some quarters but he will be responsible for spearheading the recruitment process.

Sir Alex Ferguson

David Moyes’s failure has reflected badly on Ferguson, who personally appointed his fellow Scot, but it has not dissuaded the club from continuing to seek his advice.

David Gill

The highly regarded former chief executive and a senior figure at Uefa is considered one of the game’s foremost administrators with a firm understanding of the sport and his opinion will be listened to.

Sir Bobby Charlton

The former United and England player had been the only director to come out in support of Moyes in recent weeks. Not as influential as he once was but still admired.

Ryan Giggs

The Welshman has been placed in temporary charge until the end of the season, and is not in the running to get the job permanently and is unlikely to be consulted over Moyes’s successor. A hugely influential figure among the squad.

[Drift]

Lol fergie still on the panel yeah? Walter smith confirmed.

[Mame Biram Diouf]

English media >>>>>

 

Savaged AVB

 

Halo over Moyes head

 

>>>>> G. Neville

 

Really let down with his comments today

 

Wonder what Giggs thinks about them

 

Furthermore wonder how Giggs will line up these last few games

 

Who he starts will surely show much he was on Moyes side?

 

Can see him bowing to the fans, Valencia, Hernandez, Vidic all starting

[The Infamous]

Lol fergie still on the panel yeah? Walter smith confirmed.

[fergie] i been drankin i been drankin [/fergie]

[JOHN DOE]

 

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