Drift Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Holgate is a stupid Northerner, shit probably just got lost in translation. Ref decided not to do anything drastic to cover his back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Ref prolly decided not to do anything so it can be handled post game after review Sending off someone for racism on the back of hearsay is a bit long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayomesaydayo Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5247605/Peter-Beardsley-allegedly-racist-comment-Ape.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Gonna be a lot more of this. Youth football is full of black youts and you've still got these old school man in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Infamous Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 disgusting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youcleanwepaint Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 The Disparity in the academy system is horrible between black players and black coaches and we are in 2018 to thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benicio del Toney Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 They couldn't resist the Go Ape addition. I'm not entirely surprised cos he is from an old school era but still disappointing as he was 1 of my heroes growing up. To his defense I seen the adoration he has when speaking about John Barnes, says every interview he was the best he's ever played with. He probably doesn't see what he is doing as racist or offensive but I hope his character will allow himself to listen to the allegations seriously and improve as a person. He needs to change the culture there though, I don't think man dob you in for a 1 off remark tbh he must be quite a nasty person in general to work under. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seydou Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 On 7 January 2018 at 10:46 AM, Admin. said: They both black as each other tho Fam, I'm confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Toney Barton said: They couldn't resist the Go Ape addition. I'm not entirely surprised cos he is from an old school era but still disappointing as he was 1 of my heroes growing up. To his defense I seen the adoration he has when speaking about John Barnes, says every interview he was the best he's ever played with. He probably doesn't see what he is doing as racist or offensive but I hope his character will allow himself to listen to the allegations seriously and improve as a person. He needs to change the culture there though, I don't think man dob you in for a 1 off remark tbh he must be quite a nasty person in general to work under. c/s / Don' think there was anything in the Holgate thing tbh, think Firmino called him a puta and Holgate probably thought he was being racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youcleanwepaint Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 I don’t think the coaching and coaches of bame getting more jobs even away from football, it’s just all about filling quotas and people not getting jobs on merits and then when they do get the jobs no one ain’t riding for them and backing them.. but fuck the fa anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGameBaller Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 8 hours ago, Toney Barton said: They couldn't resist the Go Ape addition. I'm not entirely surprised cos he is from an old school era but still disappointing as he was 1 of my heroes growing up. To his defense I seen the adoration he has when speaking about John Barnes, says every interview he was the best he's ever played with. He probably doesn't see what he is doing as racist or offensive but I hope his character will allow himself to listen to the allegations seriously and improve as a person. He needs to change the culture there though, I don't think man dob you in for a 1 off remark tbh he must be quite a nasty person in general to work under. Well said. Obviously it’s a stupid thing to say but it’s not Ron Atkinson level of racism. What the latter said was beyond disgusting. Again, I’m not defending what he said but it’s so minor compared to the real racism which is intuitional, it doesn’t really warrant a whole article. Having said that, the player had every right to feel aggrieved and rightfully so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benicio del Toney Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 True. Ykno it's crazy, this is why you gotta look at people as multifacted as opposed to one type of character in regards to these things. Ron Atkinson probably did more for black footballers in this country than anyone else, putting his livelyhood on the line to do it, he went against the institution, he wasn't the very 1st but probably the most notable. So it's mad disappointing when somebody with his track record comes out with what he did but then you gotta ask yourself why these man do things like that? Obviously it was ingrained in the culture they grew up in, both at home and in football. Again, I believe they grew up in an era where they believe sticks and stones... So they probably see it as minor thinking words can't have an effect, especially when man is on the payrole and you are feeding his family. Probably saw Cyrille Regis go through worse and still make it etc... Probably don't see themselves as other more overt racists who actively discriminate in the work force. It's a realisation they have to come to though that words can have an affect, it's probably a re education they need about how to conduct themselves. Probably need a sit down with a race relations councillor where they can mediate a discussion between both parties so the Atkinsons etc... realise the impact those statements have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGameBaller Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 As I’ve gotten older, I’ve come to accept there’s racism that comes from ignorance and racism that comes from genuine fear/hatred. The former to me is harmless. I’ve had old white women/men use terms that are offensive to me and others with no real malice. When I was younger, it used to piss me off but now that I’m older, I’ve learned to put things into context and understand not everything is said/done maliciously. I’m not gonna check some 70 year old who’s using old “Love Thy Neighbour” banter because it’s pointless. But people in our age group should know better and they’ll get checked quickly if they try and slyly drop those UKIP/NF bars. Like you said, when you have someone like Ron Atkinson who has done so much for black footballers, it’s conflicting how someone can think that’s acceptable to talk about another human being. There’s levels to this but as you stated, it’s not all black & white when it’s comes to how people are (pardon the pun). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seydou Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Love thy neighbour banter? Does your old neighbour show off his collection of golliwogs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGameBaller Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Seydou said: Love thy neighbour banter? Does your old neighbour show off his collection of golliwogs? Obviously the point went over your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seydou Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Ok Explain to me the extent of this lovely neighbour banter you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayomesaydayo Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Queens reaching with this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze-e Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Fuck outta here. She needs to sit down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agony Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 WOKEN Angela Rye has been fighting the good fight but on this occasion she's looking like a reach goddess and needs to fall back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agony Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 And yanks calling football boots cleats just sounds so wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGameBaller Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Seydou said: Ok Explain to me the extent of this lovely neighbour banter you have? Explain to me where I said it was lovely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agony Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 This is the person that brought the ad to Angela's attention Been reading the replies "What does this have to do with a damn shoe????" "DoYourOwnResearch" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGameBaller Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Americans can only see racism through their own narrow scope. They refuse to use context outside of America. If it’s racist to them it’s racist everywhere else in the world. Typical outrage culture we live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneGameBaller Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42623021 The Football Association will interview at least one applicant from a black, Asian and minority ethnic background for future roles in the England set-up. English football's governing body will adopt its own version of the 'Rooney Rule' implemented in the NFL in 2003. A step in the right direction? Or will it all just be for show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 No it’s not. this affirmative action stuff is something I really don’t believe in at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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