Where do you rate Bale in world football (sturridge too)

[Young £]

Welbek is still better than sturridge dont get twisted, dont know what topic i remember reading the Welbeck slander in.

[Heero Yuy]

Welbek is still better than sturridge dont get twisted, dont know what topic i remember reading the Welbeck slander in.

 

It's debatable, I think Sturridge is slightly ahead (he does probably get more game time tbh)

[stacksbranning]

Welbek is still better than sturridge dont get twisted, dont know what topic i remember reading the Welbeck slander in.

 

No he is not 

[i5_PRODUCER]

i wouldn't feel bumped if welbeck and sturridge got swapped. Infact i would be like

 

 

The lad Welbeck is shocking at times. 

 

[Young £]

lol kk. Porchys right

 

Lets stay on topic

 

I just wanted that post to be noted, for end of season bumps

[Flojo]

Welbek is still better than sturridge dont get twisted, dont know what topic i remember reading the Welbeck slander in.

 

It's debatable, I think Sturridge is slightly ahead (he does probably get more game time tbh)

 

 

Within Sturridge's first 3 games he'd bettered Welbeck's tally for the season and he picked up an injury for us but still ended the season with 10 goals and 5 assists in 14 league games  (11 starts, 3 sub appearances).

 

Welbeck played in 39 games in all comps last year, started in 23 and played nearly 300 minutes more than Sturridge but managed 2 goals and 5 assists.

 

It's nothing to do with game time.

[stacksbranning]

 

Welbek is still better than sturridge dont get twisted, dont know what topic i remember reading the Welbeck slander in.

 

It's debatable, I think Sturridge is slightly ahead (he does probably get more game time tbh)

 

 

Within Sturridge's first 3 games he'd bettered Welbeck's tally for the season and he picked up an injury for us but still ended the season with 10 goals and 5 assists in 14 league games  (11 starts, 3 sub appearances).

 

Welbeck played in 39 games in all comps last year, started in 23 and played nearly 300 minutes more than Sturridge but managed 2 goals and 5 assists.

 

It's nothing to do with game time.

 

Tbf though welbeck got played on the wing , Last season wellers scored 13 goals for us still 

[stacksbranning]

i meant the season before last 

[Mephisto]

So what berkamp played in the premier league for 11 years and scored 87 goals in 317 games and yet people are saying hes better than a man whos  played in the premier league for 5 years , played  171 games and scored 73 goals ?

Man behave 

 

Dem stat man dere

[Yoshie]

Pains me to say

 

Welbek is still better than sturridge dont get twisted, dont know what topic i remember reading the Welbeck slander in.

 

No he is not 

 

Pains me to say it, sturridge clearly the more accomplished footballer.

[Heero Yuy]

 

Welbek is still better than sturridge dont get twisted, dont know what topic i remember reading the Welbeck slander in.

 

It's debatable, I think Sturridge is slightly ahead (he does probably get more game time tbh)

 

 

Within Sturridge's first 3 games he'd bettered Welbeck's tally for the season and he picked up an injury for us but still ended the season with 10 goals and 5 assists in 14 league games  (11 starts, 3 sub appearances).

 

Welbeck played in 39 games in all comps last year, started in 23 and played nearly 300 minutes more than Sturridge but managed 2 goals and 5 assists.

 

It's nothing to do with game time.

 

Welbeck was being played in all sorts of positions, not to mention Sturridge was starting games consistently which would've made it easier for him to pick up form and consistency. Dunno the stats but it would be very interesting to see how many game Welbeck started in consecutively. I think anyone would agree it's hard to pick up form when you're continually be rotated. Which is why it would be a much more interesting comparisons if they were in similar situations.

 

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Split this into a Sturride vs Welbeck thread, don't want to fraff up this thread

[Horatio Caine]

sturridge over welbeck, 

 

..//

 

bale should be even better this season,cant wait

[Black.]

Welbeck is any side sideman

Sturridge passed him time ago

[Guest Diddybob]

Pedro ain''t better than Bale, neither is Muller full stop.

 

Stop being fucking stupid, you can clearly see one has the ability to be a special player while the others will only ever be important parts of a team at most, Pedro has been average last two season yet he is better than Bale?

 

People were getting onto Bale about his lack of technical ability compared to others, yet will big up Muller in the same sentence, someone who has less technical ability than Bale, but relies on intelligence and movement to be effective, Mulller is a basically a poacher playing in a wide forward position.

[Guest Diddybob]

If Bale came on the market for 40 m every team in the world is going in for him and you know this.

 

If Pedro and Muller came on the market for 40 million, you're not getting any bids.

 

Sometimes its as simple as that, but everybody on here wants to be a fucking hipster when the facts are staring them in the face.

[stacksbranning]

current form  muller >>>bale>>>pedro

Career wise  pedro >>>muller>>>bale

 

Agreed ?

[Lieutenant]

Lol what???

[Horatio Caine]

id have muller over pedro any day.....

 

 

last season wasnt great for pedro, this season could be worse

[Guest Diddybob]

I think there's a massive disrespect for players that don't play in an individualistic manner.

See, as much as you want to call players Muller, Pedro & lord knows Iniesta as footballing 'sidemen', can we take a moment to think about the necessary quality to even start for teams considered to be THE GREATEST OFF ALL-TIME?

It's a shame that they play for Barcelona in the sense you don't see them play in their most individual state. Where play isn't channeled constantly through unlike Ronaldo at Madrid or Bale at Spurs.

 

What a silly comment.

 

The 'individualistic' players are normally the best mate.

 

Go and name the best footballers in the last 50 years, most of them were greedy close control dribbling shites.

 

And Iniesta would be the main man in any team apart from Barca.

 

Pedro goes to Chelsea and he won't be the main man, or at United or most of the other top clubs, in fact he wouldn't  even be the main man at Spurs because Bale is quite evidently a better player.

 

Pedro is a quality player as is Muller, but none of them have the star quality that Bale has, neither the upside and the ability to take the game by the scruff of the neck and win it for their team, their important role players but that is all.

 

Your not going to build a team around Pedro the way you are going to for a Bale or Suarez and thats just the simple truth, if Pedro came to Liverpool Brendan Rodgers ain't thinking 'oh we need to find the way to best utilise Pedro because he is our best player', regardless of how many honours he has to his name.

[Guest Diddybob]

And the Sturridge Welbeck argument is stupid, Sturridge is much better technically and is a better goalscorer. Only thingkWelbeck has over him is that he apparently 'plays for the team' even though he gets less assists than Sturridge as well, i think the playing for the team part comes from him knowing he isn't all to special, he can't be as individualistic as Sturridge because he simply isn't as good.

[kerser]

Welbeck is any Heskey

[darkman]

I think there's a massive disrespect for players that don't play in an individualistic manner.

See, as much as you want to call players Muller, Pedro & lord knows Iniesta as footballing 'sidemen', can we take a moment to think about the necessary quality to even start for teams considered to be THE GREATEST OFF ALL-TIME?

It's a shame that they play for Barcelona in the sense you don't see them play in their most individual state. Where play isn't channeled constantly through unlike Ronaldo at Madrid or Bale at Spurs.

 

What a silly comment.

 

The 'individualistic' players are normally the best mate.

 

Go and name the best footballers in the last 50 years, most of them were greedy close control dribbling shites.

 

And Iniesta would be the main man in any team apart from Barca.

 

Pedro goes to Chelsea and he won't be the main man, or at United or most of the other top clubs, in fact he wouldn't  even be the main man at Spurs because Bale is quite evidently a better player.

 

Pedro is a quality player as is Muller, but none of them have the star quality that Bale has, neither the upside and the ability to take the game by the scruff of the neck and win it for their team, their important role players but that is all.

 

Your not going to build a team around Pedro the way you are going to for a Bale or Suarez and thats just the simple truth, if Pedro came to Liverpool Brendan Rodgers ain't thinking 'oh we need to find the way to best utilise Pedro because he is our best player', regardless of how many honours he has to his name.

 

This guy knows what he's talking about

[stacksbranning]

I think there's a massive disrespect for players that don't play in an individualistic manner.

See, as much as you want to call players Muller, Pedro & lord knows Iniesta as footballing 'sidemen', can we take a moment to think about the necessary quality to even start for teams considered to be THE GREATEST OFF ALL-TIME?

It's a shame that they play for Barcelona in the sense you don't see them play in their most individual state. Where play isn't channeled constantly through unlike Ronaldo at Madrid or Bale at Spurs.

 

What a silly comment.

 

The 'individualistic' players are normally the best mate.

 

Go and name the best footballers in the last 50 years, most of them were greedy close control dribbling shites.

 

And Iniesta would be the main man in any team apart from Barca.

 

Pedro goes to Chelsea and he won't be the main man, or at United or most of the other top clubs, in fact he wouldn't  even be the main man at Spurs because Bale is quite evidently a better player.

 

Pedro is a quality player as is Muller, but none of them have the star quality that Bale has, neither the upside and the ability to take the game by the scruff of the neck and win it for their team, their important role players but that is all.

 

Your not going to build a team around Pedro the way you are going to for a Bale or Suarez and thats just the simple truth, if Pedro came to Liverpool Brendan Rodgers ain't thinking 'oh we need to find the way to best utilise Pedro because he is our best player', regardless of how many honours he has to his name.

 

But you cant be biggin up bale for scoring goals against shit teams like west ham . pedro  and muller will do that for fun.

bale has done NOTHING against the level muller and pedro have thats the difference

[darkman]

I think there's a massive disrespect for players that don't play in an individualistic manner.

See, as much as you want to call players Muller, Pedro & lord knows Iniesta as footballing 'sidemen', can we take a moment to think about the necessary quality to even start for teams considered to be THE GREATEST OFF ALL-TIME?

It's a shame that they play for Barcelona in the sense you don't see them play in their most individual state. Where play isn't channeled constantly through unlike Ronaldo at Madrid or Bale at Spurs.

 

And Iniesta would be the main man in any team apart from Barca.

 

Apart from Madrid. Ronaldo would still be top dog