The Islamic Caliphate

[Supermalt]

the fuck

 

yh probably what afgoon just said

[Don Crack]

Why does Islam worship Lucifer according to the star and crescent?

[The Infamous]

the f*ck

[Guest eights]

traust

[time_bomb]

i hope she gets beheaded for being an attention seeking slag

[Elementalism]

Asymmetric warfare all over the place. The UAE has been bombing militia in Libya with fighter jets (the UAE spending on air tech is ridiculous, check it out), Saudi basically took over Bahrain with a parade of Humvees and nobody said sh*t. Iranian Revolutionary Guards in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon....Salafist/Wahabi mercenaries all over the place from Nigeria, to Mali, the Levant....Turks attempting some seriously risky regional power plays.

 

I don't care what anyone says about Bashar Assad, I don't believe he's as bad as they've made out. It's taken waves of foreign fighters to get him out of power, the FSA was always the 'front' of the respectable opposition, but the dodgy links they forged with the foreign fighters (and their handlers) has bitten them in the arse.

This documentary is certi. Ratings to the PressTV guy, f*ck these Vice guys - these lot had way more to risk. Wicked framing of many of the groups involved, and also their external sponsors/supporters.

 

Such a complicated conflict, with so many actors and shifting fronts.

 

This whole thing is crystal clear if you're smart. Although it hasn't necessarily gone to plan, the planning is evident.

[Elementalism]

Nah these ISIL guys are fucked. Going door-to-door in Iraqi army uniform, booting off the doors of high ranking Iraqi army guys, accusing them of aiding terrorists then making them prove their identities, provide contact numbers and names for their superiors before revealing that they actually ARE the terrorists and killing them.

[Yuri]

And russian special forces operating all over syria

[Da Luv Doc]

I would love to have a discussion on god with one of these Islamic State mugs, would make them realise that religion is bullshit.

[VENOM]

And russian special forces operating all over syria

You're so anti Russian yet pro joo,

Hamas is Isis init? While idf is Father Christmas and mother Teresa wrapped in one.

[Da Luv Doc]

Veh-Narm

[Guest luckstar]

Asymmetric warfare all over the place. The UAE has been bombing militia in Libya with fighter jets (the UAE spending on air tech is ridiculous, check it out), Saudi basically took over Bahrain with a parade of Humvees and nobody said sh*t. Iranian Revolutionary Guards in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon....Salafist/Wahabi mercenaries all over the place from Nigeria, to Mali, the Levant....Turks attempting some seriously risky regional power plays.

 

I don't care what anyone says about Bashar Assad, I don't believe he's as bad as they've made out. It's taken waves of foreign fighters to get him out of power, the FSA was always the 'front' of the respectable opposition, but the dodgy links they forged with the foreign fighters (and their handlers) has bitten them in the arse.

This documentary is certi. Ratings to the PressTV guy, f*ck these Vice guys - these lot had way more to risk. Wicked framing of many of the groups involved, and also their external sponsors/supporters.

 

Such a complicated conflict, with so many actors and shifting fronts.

 

This whole thing is crystal clear if you're smart. Although it hasn't necessarily gone to plan, the planning is evident.

 

looks mad

 

gna watch now

[Elementalism]

And russian special forces operating all over syria

 

Why not, there's a bag of Chechens there for them. Also Putin and the Russians have matters of realpoltik to consider; their gas investments, their defence investments (the S300s), their strategic investments (Latakia).

 

Russians don't give two f*cks about who they fight or where. People talk about Blackwater (or whatever they changed their name to) but really and truly it's the unnamed Russian company with goons on the ground that you need to be worried about.

 

In terms of tactics, as the McCrystal scandal played out, I think Obama wanted his hands off the dodgy behind-the-scenes plays that J-Soc made in Iraq. The Obama administration is leaving this to the Arabs and the Israelis to figure out. Hezbollah and Hamas have both been baited out into open fighting, on several fronts. Iran has been drawn out. Russia has been drawn out.

 

Proxy warfare by the Arab countries is basically what we are seeing. It's something akin to what the US did with the Soviets in the 1980s with the Mujahideen, the bankers are mainly Arab, and the cannon-fodder is Arab, but the oversight and equipment is Western. This time Qatar, UAE, Dubai, Saudi are footing the bill, and helping with oversight.

 

All this talk of ISIL's gains in the North and the Peshmerga, but not a peep about things nearer to Baghdad - namley Al-Sadr City..

I wonder what the Mahdi Army is doing? One of the biggest Shia militias run by that guy ^, Moqtada al Sadr. He's like the Dudus of Al Sadr City, real Shia dads. Put up a fierce, fierce resistance to incursions into the city (check out the Siege of Al Sadr City) and maintained control.

 

Most of these ISIL guys are playing away - i.e. foreign fighters, on foreign soil. None of the Shias from Baghdad have made any moves north, and I think it's probably smart to preserve the 'home advantage'. Fallujah (Sunni) is a stronghold of ISIL, but Baghdad is a city of 5 million Sunnis and two of the largest Shia militias. I have a feeling the ISIL will find themselves exhausted on several fronts if they continue pushing south.

 

Shias remind me of the Bloods, outnumbered in LA by the Crips vastly, but managing nonetheless to consolidate power in key places and make the moves they need to survive.

Afghoon, can you break down the Sunni/Shia distinction a bit?

[Yuri]

 

And russian special forces operating all over syria

You're so anti Russian yet pro joo,

Hamas is Isis init? While idf is Father Christmas and mother Teresa wrapped in one.

 

I don't understand how you interpreted that as an anti-russian comment. Probably because you're thick and don't fully understand what's being discussed and just jump in with ignorant comments like most other people on this topic. If anything that was a pro-Russian comment, because Putin has been one of the only world leaders (with the Iranian regime) to actually back Assad militarily. Obama made another foreign policy f*ck-up by backing the removal of Assad from power, and now look what's happening. As far as I'm concerned Assad staying in power is only a good thing, because look what happens when he loses control of his population... ISIS start to take over

 

And no Hamas and ISIS are not the same, although they are pretty similar ideologically. if you look at the history of the Palestinians, they don't like to allow outsiders from other Arab movements to interfere with their business. Hamas recently dealt with their own ISIS problems in Gaza. 

 

IDF are too soft tbh. They are too weak to crumble under international pressure and too concerned about the deaths of civilians

 

Next time stay in your lane and post about slavery reparations or something. Thanks for playing though bruh

[Yuri]

 

And russian special forces operating all over syria

 

Why not, there's a bag of Chechens there for them. Also Putin and the Russians have matters of realpoltik to consider; their gas investments, their defence investments (the S300s), their strategic investments (Latakia).

 

Russians don't give two f*cks about who they fight or where. People talk about Blackwater (or whatever they changed their name to) but really and truly it's the unnamed Russian company with goons on the ground that you need to be worried about.

 

In terms of tactics, as the McCrystal scandal played out, I think Obama wanted his hands off the dodgy behind-the-scenes plays that J-Soc made in Iraq. The Obama administration is leaving this to the Arabs and the Israelis to figure out. Hezbollah and Hamas have both been baited out into open fighting, on several fronts. Iran has been drawn out. Russia has been drawn out.

 

Proxy warfare by the Arab countries is basically what we are seeing. It's something akin to what the US did with the Soviets in the 1980s with the Mujahideen, the bankers are mainly Arab, and the cannon-fodder is Arab, but the oversight and equipment is Western. This time Qatar, UAE, Dubai, Saudi are footing the bill, and helping with oversight.

 

All this talk of ISIL's gains in the North and the Peshmerga, but not a peep about things nearer to Baghdad - namley Al-Sadr City..

I wonder what the Mahdi Army is doing? One of the biggest Shia militias run by that guy ^, Moqtada al Sadr. He's like the Dudus of Al Sadr City, real Shia dads. Put up a fierce, fierce resistance to incursions into the city (check out the Siege of Al Sadr City) and maintained control.

 

Most of these ISIL guys are playing away - i.e. foreign fighters, on foreign soil. None of the Shias from Baghdad have made any moves north, and I think it's probably smart to preserve the 'home advantage'. Fallujah (Sunni) is a stronghold of ISIL, but Baghdad is a city of 5 million Sunnis and two of the largest Shia militias. I have a feeling the ISIL will find themselves exhausted on several fronts if they continue pushing south.

 

Shias remind me of the Bloods, outnumbered in LA by the Crips vastly, but managing nonetheless to consolidate power in key places and make the moves they need to survive.

Afghoon, can you break down the Sunni/Shia distinction a bit?

 

A guy called Muhammed and invented a arab war ideology ("religion") and spread it through persuasion/force through arab tribes and poverty civilisations like north africa. then arabs forced the persians to convert, but because persia was already an advanced civilisation with its own history (not a load of random arab tribes) they didn't like the idea of a religion where all the main characters are arabs from places in saudi arabia, so they made up their own version where their own cities became the important points. they also can't agree about the caliphate and its inheritants. so they still can't get along after hundreds of years. basically its arabs vs persians

 

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 in regards to the russian thing. yeah, as i'm sure you know Russia has a its fingers in a LOT of pies all over the world. the point about them hunting down fanatical chechen scum is a sideline, they wouldn't actually get involved over that

[time_bomb]

 

 

Shias remind me of the Bloods, outnumbered in LA by the Crips vastly, but managing nonetheless to consolidate power in key places and make the moves they need to survive.

Afghoon, can you break down the Sunni/Shia distinction a bit?

 

 

Sunni believe Mohammed pbuh was the last prophet where as shia believe imam Ali is the descendant of Mohammed pbuh and his successor, so u will see some shia beliefs and holy spots relate to imam ali not Mohammed pbuh, which a lot of sunni see as kinda blasphemous.

[Seydou]

That's sugar coating mate.

They believe worse things.

[Supermalt]

time bomb and you are?

[The Infamous]

That's sugar coating mate.

They believe worse things.

/

WHy do they whip themselves?

Also their salat tekkers<<<<<<

[Da Luv Doc]

Why do muslims idolise mighty mo when they're not meant to idolise anyone but god?

 

LOL @ any sort of god needing humans to read a book and worship. A real god wouldn't need any of that as it would be absolutely powerful. 

 

I mean, heaven & hell is flawed, if god knows the past, current and future, yet all these different religions kill people for their book, smh.

[time_bomb]

time bomb and you are?

 

im sunni, i think all african muslims are sunni

[Da Luv Doc]

Timebomb, why do you follow religion?

 

Are you saying God is not all powerful? Because that is what following a religion is saying. Instead, you are worshipping aliens, because they're the ones who these religions are based on!

 

Heaven & hell makes no sense.

[Fearless-Guy]

Justin, you believe in God?

[Da Luv Doc]

50/50, there could have been something that created everything, but this rubbish in the holybooks are just rubbish, humans whi couldn't explain these alien visitations.