Band Aid single

[hardface]

A simple google search was not able to give me a breakdown of where all the money goes, they should be more transparent (no lens)

A Non-Profit organisation is the same as a For-Profit organisation with two major exceptions:

• It is not allowed to distribute profits to anyone, no matter how much money it makes. That means no dividends for shareholders.
• There are no shareholders. Nobody owns the company. It has trustees, who run the company - but they cannot sell their "trusteeship" to anyone else.

What does this mean? Essentially - 100% of the money which a Non-Profit makes is re-invested in the company.

A Charity is a Non-Profit Organisation with much stricter rules about what it is and isn't allowed to do:

• A charity (except in special circumstances) cannot pay a salary to its trustees. Typically these people are volunteers.
• A charity must disclose all of its financials publicly, in great detail, and be audited by several government bodies.
• A charity may only do things which have charitable purpose for public benefit, and nothing else.
• A charity receives large amounts of tax-relief from the government for conforming to these rules.

What does this mean? Charities exist solely to benefit others. They operate on a shoe-string budget and generally spend 90% of their time trying to raise funds through donations in order to keep doing what they do.

Again, these rules vary a huge amount from country to country, and this is only a basic overview.

Loopholes exist everywhere for those who are taught how.

[time_bomb]

knew a girl who did fundraising for red cross over the phones, she made very decent money, will never give to the red cross or the larger charities again, luckily ive found a small charity which works with oprhans and disabled kids in algeria, i can see exactly where my money goes and whats been purchased with it.

[ag.]

CEOs need to be paid well surely. If you want to attract a decent one the salary has to be right? Nah?

naah...

[ag.]

The people on the street who harass you for money get paid something like £10 an hr

my boy got me a job with a charity company coupla years ago wen i left school

bere people making a living off this 'charity' shit

'chuggers' is a very real term

[Afroman]

 

The people on the street who harass you for money get paid something like £10 an hr

 

Yes but the problem with them is they are not actually hired by the charity. The charity pays an agency to get people on the street

 

Ive been told that the charities pay something extortionate like £40ph to the agencies to get the street walkers to do the work.

 

Dont agree at all

 

Thought alot of those chuggers were commision based. 

[Afroman]

 

 

The people on the street who harass you for money get paid something like £10 an hr

 

Yes but the problem with them is they are not actually hired by the charity. The charity pays an agency to get people on the street

 

Ive been told that the charities pay something extortionate like £40ph to the agencies to get the street walkers to do the work.

 

Dont agree at all

 

Thought alot of those chuggers were commision based only

 

[underwriter]

who watched ebola documentary yesterday? jeez was quite the documentary

[Badman]

 

 

 

The people on the street who harass you for money get paid something like £10 an hr

 

Yes but the problem with them is they are not actually hired by the charity. The charity pays an agency to get people on the street

 

Ive been told that the charities pay something extortionate like £40ph to the agencies to get the street walkers to do the work.

 

Dont agree at all

 

Thought alot of those chuggers were commision based only

 

 

 

Think the charity ones get a basic, some like the service providers i.e. internet, energy etc can be commission only 

 

My boy back in the day was doing some kind of Virgin product when we were in our late teens and man was caking big time, something like £2k a month part time while studying full time

 

its sales though at the end of the day, was never for me

[Heero Yuy]

I used to work for Virgin and the guys in sales were clearing crazy money a month.... which was why when redundancies started they were the first people to go.

[Afroman]

What channel was this on?

[Grafter]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/ebola/11236278/Why-Adele-was-right-to-ignore-Bob-Geldof-and-Band-Aid.html

Very good article

[dub]

its ignorant to think that because a charity is paying a lot to their workers you should overlook donating to them, the idea is to use money to raise money

if the only people raising money were volunteers then shit wouldn't get done on the same scale

 

if you wanna look at something and complain about it, look at Product Red (Bono's charity) - its more of a way of promoting entertainment entities rather than actually helping out a cause

[The Infamous]

This muthafucka geldof is a complete fraud

Needs to stop name dropping africa as a continent to stay relevant.

Mans 4 singles in and aint shit changed

[Fillup Banks]

After reading 

 

 

Changed my outlook of donations from the West to Africa.

Trust! The issue with foreign aid & charities is qualitative, not quantitative.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/society/salarysurvey/table/0,12406,1042677,00.html

Charity chief executives pay sorted alphabetically

Dno how this fits in with the rules

Those seem reasonable tbh, barely more than what a head teacher gets.

[Niall Ferguson]

its ignorant to think that because a charity is paying a lot to their workers you should overlook donating to them, the idea is to use money to raise money

if the only people raising money were volunteers then shit wouldn't get done on the same scale

Thank God someone with half a brain replied to the thread.

[Agony]

The song is shit

/

Now that's how you do a charity song

Nas>>>>>

[Lieutenant]

Oh wow, the memories

[dub]

Why I had to turn down Band Aid

Saying no to Bob Geldof was hard, but when I saw how negatively the lyrics portrayed Africa I had no choice

 

 

Saying no to Bob Geldof is one of the hardest decisions I have had to make this year. However, seeing what looked like the corpse of an African woman being carried out of her home on primetime TV when the video was premiered on X Factor crystallised my concerns about this strategy to combat the Ebola crisis. For me it is ultimately flawed.

 

A week before the recording of Band Aid 30, I received a call from Geldof asking if I would take part. I was honoured to be asked and, connecting with his passion for wanting to tackle the Ebola crisis, said I wanted to offer my support.

 

But I also had my concerns. I was sceptical because of the lyrics and the videos of the previous charity singles, and I worried that this would play into the constant negative portrayal of the continent of Africa in the west. Geldof and I spoke at length about this and he agreed with me on many levels, assuring me that we could use it as an opportunity to showcase the positives of Africa.

 

However, on receiving the proposed lyrics on Thursday – two days before the recording was due to take place in London – I was shocked and appalled by their content. The message of the Band Aid 30 song absolutely did not reflect what Africa is truly about and I started to question whether this was something I wanted to be a part of.

 

I pointed out to Geldof the lyrics I did not agree with, such as the lines “Where a kiss of love can kill you and there’s death in every tear”, and “There is no peace and joy in west Africa this Christmas”. For the past four years I have gone to Ghana at Christmas for the sole purpose of peace and joy. So for me to sing these lyrics would simply be a lie.

 

In truth, my objection to the project goes beyond the offensive lyrics. I, like many others, am sick of the whole concept of Africa – a resource-rich continent with unbridled potential – always being seen as diseased, infested and poverty-stricken. In fact, seven out of 10 of the world’s fastest growing economies are in Africa.

 

Let me be clear, I’m not disregarding the fact that Ebola is happening and that people need help. Since the start of the outbreak in March it has killedmore than 5,000 people. But every human being deserves dignity in their suffering and the images flashed on our screens remove any remnants of this from Ebola sufferers, many in their dying moments, when they should have it the most.

 

I am not disputing Band Aid’s good intentions. But the shock-factor strategy they have used since the 1980s has sparked a whole wave of “good cause” organisations that have been irresponsible with regard to the images shown to the rest of the world. It’s been totally one-sided. That’s understandable in part, as they wouldn’t raise much money if they showed the affluence, wealth, and happy lifestyles that exist in the continent. But in the process of doing all this “good work” a huge imbalance has been created.

 

That image of poverty and famine is extremely powerful psychologically. With decades of such imagery being pumped out, the average westerner is likely to donate £2 a month or buy a charity single that gives them a nice warm fuzzy feeling; but they are much less likely to want to go on holiday to, or invest in, Africa. If you are reading this and haven’t been to Africa, ask yourself why.

 

This is New Africa (Tina) is a movement empowering people to shed a positive light on Africa. I was born in Tooting, south London, and was taken as an infant to Ghana. Returning to London at the age of 11, being African was not something to be proud of because of all the negative connotations it conjured up, and it drove me to be almost ashamed of who I was.

 

Anyone who has experienced Africa in a positive way is a citizen of the New Africa and needs to play their part in challenging perceptions. I’m sharing my experience through my music – and if I can make chart-topping music that celebrates Africa then surely Band Aid and its extensive network can do the same. I’ve performed in two of the three countries currently hit by the Ebola crisis, where I have friends and loyal fans, and will be donating the proceeds from my next single to help tackle this issue.

 

I hope from the bottom of my heart that the disease can be eradicated in Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea. But though shock tactics and negative images may raise money in the short term, the long-term damage will take far longer to heal.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/19/turn-down-band-aid-bob-geldof-africa-fuse-odg?CMP=fb_gu

[Badman]

Good for him (no sarc)

[Badman]

. double

[JOHN DOE]

 

 

pos fuse

 

the lycis are an absolute pisstake 

 

 

 

There is no peace and joy in west Africa this Christmas

myself and hundreds of others are going ghana, nigeria and other west affg countries this xmas because its completely live 

 

what kind of bullshit is this 

 

ebola is in 3 countries out of 16 in west africa 

 

this white people man 

 

this will be the 4th time geldof has dropped this riddim 

 

stop it now

[Seth Rollins]

Now you're outraged at white people getting involved in something they have no knowledge nor experience in, therefore not qualified to speak on. 

[Seth Rollins]

On the positive though, big up for going home for Christmas. Love to hear that.   Pos.

[Niall Ferguson]

It's white guilt, that's all. 

[Seth Rollins]

Guilt for what?

 

Running up in their countries using poor excuses and taking their riches on the sly?

 

F**k guilt it doesn't exist in the devil.