carrick has a great engine, he probably covers the most ground in a united jersey, a DM will free carrick and let him focus on one aspect,which is building uniteds attackin play, all he needs is a good enough partner, cleverley and anderson dont cut it, its sad because the one thing anderson does better than the rest of uniteds midfielders(including carrick) is dribble(attack space)...
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carrick is an outlet, if moved forward he would have less time, less space and less of the ball....
still dont get why united need an enforcer
they are never really under the kosh even when playing 442 with 2 wide wingers and having spaces you can fit africa through the gaps between the 4 midfielders
i tell you guys who is probably available, wouldnt cost too much and would be a huge upgrade on jones for when an engine/runner is needed espesh in europe
Khedira, would be a good replacement for fletcher.... and i dont even rate him but for what united are looking for(even if they dont know it) he is the right fit
if you want an all action midfielder
go support liverpool
you will never win a league title with one tho
Sandro>>>Fernando>>>>Lucas Leiva>>>>>Gustavo
If Cabaye actually scored more he would b perfect.more time tho he goes missing.
of course we wont 
....
its fucked but united dont have that "bite" in midfield
Dont get me wrong I'm not saying that's what I want to see from Carrick. I'm just stating that he is capable.
Dont get me wrong I'm not saying that's what I want to see from Carrick. I'm just stating that he is capable.
More advance, like Mata/Cazorla/Kagawa for example?
Like Mata perhaps, but only because he is the only one of those three that has played CM in a 4-3-3.
Dont get me wrong I'm not saying that's what I want to see from Carrick. I'm just stating that he is capable.
More advance, like Mata/Cazorla/Kagawa for example?
Mata?
Kagawa?
Hmmm.
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Like Mata perhaps, but only because he is the only one of those three that has played CM in a 4-3-3.
Bloody hell
ffs
see i dont come with outrageous claims lol....
but lets not act like carrick isnt talented enough to play in a 433 or be one of the CMs in a 4123,
He is but will get outed
It's not about talent, it's about his skillset.
He doesn't have the skillset of an advanced central midfielder.
we can go on all day bruh
what times rio's testie??
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he doesnt have the legs/engine or the flair/trickery to play that position
would have to be the deeper player
the 2 central midfielders have to be comfortable going wide and getting beyond the striker when attacking..... he could do the defensive capabilities of that position no problem
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Irony is, putting Carrick in that position was done in a black & white manner i.e. "Carrick is a CM, it's straightforward, he can play there..."
The role of a CM in a 4-2-3-1 & a 4-3-3 is subject to a subtle change. He goes from operating in deep central areas predominately to occupying advanced central areas. Main reason is, he has to support the lone striker. He has to have great close control, great off the ball movement (in an offensive sense) & be capable of driving forward.
Now, I think if we're talking about these specific skills, at BEST, Carrick is competent. In a 4-3-3, Cleverley, Anderson, shit even Giggs are more suited to the role. Whether at West Ham, Spurs or United, he's never operated as one of the advanced CM's. And he hasn't demonstrated the quality to operate there at an elite & consistent level.
I think the closest thing you could compare it too, is the United team between '06-'09 where you'd use a 3-man midfield in Europe of Carrick/Anderson/Scholes or Carrick/Scholes with Hargreaves playing as a very narrow wide midfielder. Even then, Carrick always operated as a deep-lying CM.
So speaking myself, it isn't a case of seeing things in a black or white way. It's just looking at Carrick's strengths, what he's demonstrated in the past & what the 4-3-3 requires of a CM. Carrick just isn't that guy.
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Fresh, a deep CM in what formation?
And you'll be surprised how much ground an advanced CM has to cover. Maybe not in a vertical sense, but to always be available for the ball, create space, etc requires you to cover A LOT of ground.
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