Lens Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 gym guys, in need of advice I tried my hand at powerlifting for the first time today, did a fair amount of reps with 28KG felt fine throughout the exercise, put the bar down, tried to walk, right leg was finished. I'm talking finished like if I did a leg day I would stop 10 minutes earlier before either of my legs felt like this. I will not walk tomorrow The question is, was I exercising unevenly, or is this just my body's reaction to doing a new exercise? I asked 3 gym guys if I should do some work on my left leg to even it out, as it's not about having one hench leg, all said no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Ferguson Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Looking good Heero, n/h. 10-12% body fat... @ Lens, it's very likely that you have muscle imbalance, and there are lots of exercises that can arrest it. Google the idea and how to deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YFSD Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Heero looking solid Def need to post more, would be interested to see a daily meal plan No ab work I noticed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yung bawse Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Basically... First few weeks was fine, I was having it with milk as well so overall about 700 calories with 60g protein and 90g carb. Twice a day. Then after 3 weeks started noticing my stomach getting mashed. I mean having sh*t 4 times a day, and each time shitting my guts out. Ignored it for a bit and started noticing I couldn't even lift like I used to before when I was just on whey protein. I mean proper slacking. I think I was drinking it and all my nutrients were just coming out the other end. It got so bad that I started getting bad stomach pains all day long. I also have slight symptoms of IBS so I guess that added to it. But overall, my body completely rejected it, and I went back on Gold Standard Whey, and I could lift heavy again. Since then I haven't touched it. I guess it works for some people but all the bodybuilders tell me to gain weight slowly and gradually which I have been doing, and started training with a mate whos been training for 8 years, so my training sessions are fully intense. The gains I have been making recently are crazy. Beating personal records every week: this week, bent over barbell row 100kg (10 reps) and incline bench press 100kg (10 reps) I don't get what you mean by gain weight slowly, to repair and build muscle you just have to be in a calorie surplus, you should only ever be 200-500 calories above your maintenance when bulking otherwise Ull just gain unessassary fat, mass gainers are for people who struggle to get into a surplus by eating food (very active people/people who require a silly amount of cals to be in a surplus).. You can't just start banging 5kcals a day when your maintenance is 3k it's pointless.Same way you can't be too much in a deficit when cutting or ull lose more muscle than need be and mess up your metabolism/hormones, hence why these people on 500cal a day shake diets are idiots and will be fat again in no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Lens, did you adequately warm up/warm down during/after the exercise? If you havent done it before its best to start slow and light and gradually get into it with a mixture of regular stretching + using a foam roller is highly recommended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lens Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 not sure, but I'll warm up more next time, use lower weight and see if that fixes it. if not, I'll go with Niall's muscle imbalance of the legs theory and address that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Nothing wrong with mixing both practices into your routine. Its all interlinked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time_bomb Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 anyone had negative side effects taking creatine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 It's not good for sportsmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yung bawse Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Gives me a bad stomach pains, did the same for my dad in his glory days.. Great supp if your body accepts it though, 1 of the first things I recommend my male clients (with hypertrophy goals) to invest in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 gym guys, in need of advice I tried my hand at powerlifting for the first time today, did a fair amount of reps with 28KG felt fine throughout the exercise, put the bar down, tried to walk, right leg was finished. I'm talking finished like if I did a leg day I would stop 10 minutes earlier before either of my legs felt like this. I will not walk tomorrow The question is, was I exercising unevenly, or is this just my body's reaction to doing a new exercise? I asked 3 gym guys if I should do some work on my left leg to even it out, as it's not about having one hench leg, all said no. What were you doing? Squats? If you are doing a workout with poor form with a heavy weight your stronger leg will overcompensate for the weaker one, and you'll very likely pull something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time_bomb Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 It's not good for sportsmen how so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 It's not good for sportsmen how so? You develop chronic problems later on in life. Wenger banned it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 The consumption of oral creatine monohydrate has become increasingly common among professional and amateur athletes. Despite numerous publications on the ergogenic effects of this naturally occurring substance, there is little information on the possible adverse effects of this supplement. The objectives of this review are to identify the scientific facts and contrast them with reports in the news media, which have repeatedly emphasised the health risks of creatine supplementation and do not hesitate to draw broad conclusions from individual case reports. Exogenous creatine supplements are often consumed by athletes in amounts of up to 20 g/day for a few days, followed by 1 to 10 g/day for weeks, months and even years. Usually, consumers do not report any adverse effects, but body mass increases. There are few reports that creatine supplementation has protective effects in heart, muscle and neurological diseases. Gastrointestinal disturbances and muscle cramps have been reported occasionally in healthy individuals, but the effects are anecdotal. Liver and kidney dysfunction have also been suggested on the basis of small changes in markers of organ function and of occasional case reports, but well controlled studies on the adverse effects of exogenous creatine supplementation are almost nonexistent. We have investigated liver changes during medium term (4 weeks) creatine supplementation in young athletes. None showed any evidence of dysfunction on the basis of serum enzymes and urea production. Short term (5 days), medium term (9 weeks) and long term (up to 5 years) oral creatine supplementation has been studied in small cohorts of athletes whose kidney function was monitored by clearance methods and urine protein excretion rate. We did not find any adverse effects on renal function. The present review is not intended to reach conclusions on the effect of creatine supplementation on sport performance, but we believe that there is no evidence for deleterious effects in healthy individuals. Nevertheless, idiosyncratic effects may occur when large amounts of an exogenous substance containing an amino group are consumed, with the consequent increased load on the liver and kidneys. Regular monitoring is compulsory to avoid any abnormal reactions during oral creatine supplementation. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10999421 and that's not from a bodybuilding site either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEAZE BALL Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 It's not good for sportsmenhow so?You develop chronic problems later on in life.Wenger banned it Please do your research before spouting nonsense There are no definitive study's that prove this its a myth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEAZE BALL Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 anyone had negative side effects taking creatine? No side effects other than needing to drink more water Only negatives I had regarding creatine is that full when I came off I lost strength and more significantly for me endurance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Heero looking solid Def need to post more, would be interested to see a daily meal plan No ab work I noticed? My abs routine is just 10-15 minutes at the end of every other session. Hanging Leg raises - 3 Sets - 10 reps Hanging Knee raises - 3 Sets - 10 second Hanging bicycle kicks - 3 Sets - 10-15 seconds Then a superset Mountain climbers - 15 Seconds twisted sit ups - 10 - 15 reps Abdominal crunches - 10 - 15 Reps Plank till failure 3 Sets ^^^ Will drop my meal plan sometime this week oh and safe everybody for the props Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEAZE BALL Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 anyone had negative side effects taking creatine? No side effects other than needing to drink more water Only negatives I had regarding creatine is that when I came off I lost strength and more significantly for me endurance *correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavant Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 @Heero, you got a link for that M-Stak? / I've been pretty inconsistent in gym since my hols plus I have sprained my patellar tendon badly. Need to develop some sort of pattern man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 It's not good for sportsmenhow so?You develop chronic problems later on in life.Wenger banned it Please do your research before spouting nonsenseThere are no definitive study's that prove this its a myth. I seen and know a guy who suffered because of his daily intake of it but hey everyone's body is different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yung bawse Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Creatine is 1 of the most researched supps out there, had to spend quite a long time studying it myself when i done my sports science/personal training qualification.. it has been deemed completely safe as far as not damaging the body but some people can experience some uncomforts, also have to be careful of what's been added to it because a company could of added something you may be allergic to / Got a PR rack pull last night, 210k no supports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yung bawse Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Put on some nice mass over the last 2 years, considering I'm 6ft5 and was stick thin.. Don't want to get too big due to my job so I'm going to start a serious cut in January ready for summer 15.. My BF is pretty low anyway but I want single figures Not sure if the link will work, haven't uploaded anything this way for a while.. (Non tensed) https://imageshack.com/i/pdzJOQwTj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 @Heero, you got a link for that M-Stak? / I've been pretty inconsistent in gym since my hols plus I have sprained my patellar tendon badly. Need to develop some sort of pattern man. http://www.dolphinfitness.co.uk/en/animal-m-stak/2767 you won't look back I promise you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavant Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 @Heero, you got a link for that M-Stak? / I've been pretty inconsistent in gym since my hols plus I have sprained my patellar tendon badly. Need to develop some sort of pattern man. http://www.dolphinfitness.co.uk/en/animal-m-stak/2767 you won't look back I promise you My brudda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macz Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 need some good food plans people, my diet is so shit and letting me down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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