Gary Speed Found Dead

[Benicio del Toney]

He might have only got the revelation or threat later on.

[Sinister]

R.I.P.

Thoughts go out to the family.

Not gonna comment on pure hearsay till the evidence comes out, but I ain't buying this suicide thing until its 100% confirmed.

[Heero Yuy]

He might have only got the revelation or threat later on.

It's hard to believe anyone makes one of those kind of decisions so hastily tho don't you think.

There's definitely something attached to this.

[Benicio del Toney]

I dunno, he also could have known before, remember he was 1 of the most "professional" people involved in the English game.

It wouldn't have been beyond his capabilities to put on a straight face.

[BLACK VICTIM]

people do commit suicide, I have contemplated it but would never go through with it, I can see how weaker, more troubled people who are not happy being alive, could easily do it

[JOHN DOE]

surely contemplating it makes you weak as well?

[The Somalian]

fuck sake its got nothing about being weak !!! I am a person who is a manic depressant been diagonoised one day I can be most happy person in the world next day no one has troubled me I can be the saddest c*nt in the world and just feel very low for months. This a deep thing for me to say but thats how I started taking cocaine I had a dependancy on a drug to make me feel good on life. Ice this is why I feel so string on the subject because I can die tomorrow through suicide people will say the same things about me they have said bout gary I know I can not handle certain parts in life and tend to ignore them and block them until they multiple 50 fold. Depression is a next thing that can not be handled in a thread like this.

[Lieutenant]

Rah, mad ting

[JOHN DOE]

MV have u got bipolar disorder?

Not poking fun - someone very close to me has that so i defo sympathise with u.

[Kurtis]

fuck sake its got nothing about being weak !!! I am a person who is a manic depressant been diagonoised one day I can be most happy person in the world next day no one has troubled me I can be the saddest c*nt in the world and just feel very low for months. This a deep thing for me to say but thats how I started taking cocaine I had a dependancy on a drug to make me feel good on life. Ice this is why I feel so string on the subject because I can die tomorrow through suicide people will say the same things about me they have said bout gary I know I can not handle certain parts in life and tend to ignore them and block them until they multiple 50 fold. Depression is a next thing that can not be handled in a thread like this.

pretty much, except I was on sleeping pills

and its fucked, depressed i could shoot myself, manic i cant go to tall buildings cos i may throw myself off from feeling invincible or jump out a moving car

and its never to do with my surroundings, just mood changes, I can 100% confirm being normal and hiding it till u try something

[Im Broke]

RIP

[Guest Portuguese]

MV have u got bipolar disorder?

Not poking fun - someone very close to me has that so i defo sympathise with u.

[Guest phonecharger]

A serious question for all the depressed etc

have you once tried going to church?

just once

[The Somalian]

MV have u got bipolar disorder?

Not poking fun - someone very close to me has that so i defo sympathise with u.

I know what u mean allot of people I know on a deep level have asked me if I have that coz the way I am up in the sky then next I am low I personally think I suffer from it never been tested but I think it is safe to say I have a bit of bi polar in me

[Necksta]

A serious question for all the depressed etc

have you once tried going to church?

just once

not sure if srs

for those who are depressed. always be around company, even if you feel like you like your own company more, being around company takes your mind off things.

depression aint a joke, but it can be controlled as long as your willing to show some strength.

[Mr. Gayle]

Alledgely a newspaper was going to out him for being gay but that could just be Twitter rumours.

Really hope that isn't the case, otherwise this should be the last straw in getting people to boycott the tabloids.

I was thinking his wife coulda cheated on him but the gay scenario is plausible even though it shouldn't be in 2011.

Too many homophobes in this day and age could force a public person into that type of despair.

Yes this seems to be story going around and picking up speed (no pun) more today.

The Sun had apprantley blackmainling him.

There was an injuction on the gay story, but The Sun rang him on Saturday to say the injuction had been lifted and they will be printing the story.

Sunday comes, man kills himself.

[The Flyest]

the drugs dont work

they just make you worse

[Flojo]

smh and people continue to buy that rag.

[FANTA]

Alledgely a newspaper was going to out him for being gay but that could just be Twitter rumours.

Really hope that isn't the case, otherwise this should be the last straw in getting people to boycott the tabloids.

I was thinking his wife coulda cheated on him but the gay scenario is plausible even though it shouldn't be in 2011.

Too many homophobes in this day and age could force a public person into that type of despair.

Yes this seems to be story going around and picking up speed (no pun) more today.

The Sun had apprantley blackmainling him.

There was an injuction on the gay story, but The Sun rang him on Saturday to say the injuction had been lifted and they will be printing the story.

Sunday comes, man kills himself.

thats tragic if true

more needs to be done for the gay community in football imo, can't be having people toppin' themselves over something so irrelevant

[CarltonLeach]

Agreed.

Nothing wrong with being gay in 2011, it's socially accepted.

Love is love, their are no rules on who are what you can love.

It's a symbol of effection and no one should be ridiculed or emotionally blackmailed.

If you're straight your straight, if you're gay you're gay - get over it!

[Nidge Weasle]

A serious question for all the depressed etc

have you once tried going to church?

just once

urgh

first (and i hope last) time i've pos'd you.

[Rsonist]

This is a difficult subject, so bear with me as I tread carefully. The reaction to the terrible death of the footballer Gary Speed has given me pause for thought about public expressions of grief.

I was at a football match this week at the Emirates Stadium between Arsenal and Manchester City, and the supporters of both clubs were invited before the match to pay their respects to Speed, a man whose career took him to many places, but, as far as I know, had no connection with either of these two clubs.

We weren't asked for a minute's silence, so the fans didn't quite know what to do. At first it was silent, then applause began to cascade down from the stands, and then some fans started singing "There's only one Gary Speed" – they'd seen Swansea City supporters spontaneously, and rather movingly, strike up this song on Match of the Day and wanted to replicate it.

It was hard to know what to make of it all. The man standing next to me was bellowing his endorsement of the uniqueness of Gary Speed, even though I'm pretty sure he never touched his life, even in death. Does that make it wrong? Of course not. In this fractured, disparate world, we all want to be part of something, even if it is communal grieving for someone with whom we have no tangible connection.

It's a relatively modern phenomenon, probably traceable to Princess Diana's death, and I think it makes us, curiously, less – rather than more – compassionate. This form of ritualised grief effectively cauterises us to the deeper meanings of a particular death, and somehow belittles the feelings of those genuinely affected by a most personal of tragedies.

In the tears of the Newcastle goalkeeper Shay Given, for example, you saw the most human expression of anguish for a friend and former teammate, and for the wife and two children who have been left behind to pick up the shattered remnants of their family life. And in the withdrawal of Craig Bellamy, a colleague of Speed's in the Welsh international set-up, from Liverpool's match last Sunday, you could sense an authentic reckoning that, set beside this, football is an irrelevant pastime.

When someone in public life dies, particularly at such a young age like Speed, there is a danger of being overwhelmed by cliché and hollow sentimentality. Every time one of Speed's former clubs scored a goal, or won a match, we were invited to believe that this was a fitting tribute to him.

In some ways, of course, it was: Speed loved football and, it seems, football loved him. But surely the most fitting tribute would be less demonstrable, and more unfashionable. It would be to allow his wife and children the space to grieve privately, and to seek to understand what propels a young man to such frightening depths of emotion. This is a terrible, and terribly difficult, thing to fathom, and one which requires a long period of quiet reflection rather than a short burst of applause.

[BATTY BOY BUM BANDIT]

"@FunkButcher: Apparently Duncan Ferguson had a 13yr affair with Gary Speeds missus and is the father of one her kids. Story hitting papers soon allegedly"

[Guest Portuguese]

"@FunkButcher: Apparently Duncan Ferguson had a 13yr affair with Gary Speeds missus and is the father of one her kids. Story hitting papers soon allegedly"

[Benicio del Toney]

Fack.

I told you Porchy (if it's true).

Just can't make them judgements on the face of it.