Lens Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 no, I've seen Danny Glover, Jamie Foxx, 2 black guys in 24, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VENOM Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 Remember guys, when you have white actors playing non-white characters (whether real or fictional) because a significant amount of the white, paying white audience cannot empathise with a non-white (particularly black) character - it's "just business". But if you so much as add a black background character to the cast it's "pandering", "tokenism", and "PC GONE MAD!". And then the same people have the audacity to call the existence of a BET network "reverse-racism". The cognitive dissonance is incredible. You have to pay attention to why people do or do not want something. I look at the industry I'm in and I can say with a full understanding that authenticity is why I don't want a black Bond. Bond is a white dude as far as I'm concerned and it should stay that way. I don't want inclusion or consideration in that way. White actors can keep their roles. I don't even want white studios to shoehorn black people into their films. I find it false and I don't respect the studios for doing it because they are not being true to themselves, and I don't respect the black actors for accepting the roles because there bloody well could be more black roles if we just took command of our destiny. What do I mean by that? Lenny Henry has been in the game for over 30 years. No one can tell me he hasn't made the sort of money that could see him start a television studio, a film studio, or even a tv channel. Instead he complains that white owned studios should cater more for black actors when he could have been the one catering to the black actors he claims to be fighting for. Right now Idris Elba is the biggest black name about. He is being touted to play the likes of James Bond, but there are black roles being overlooked, like the formerly mentioned "Shaft". I'm learning that too many black people simply don't want the responsibility of bringing economic stability. There's too much selfishness. And as for BET? There could easily be a black owned network to rival it tomorrow if a little bit of group economics were practiced. youre a d*ckhead. bond is an Mi5/6 spy working for the british government who goes on top secret missions to "save the world". while he goes on these missions, he has a set team of other british govt officials that assist his work to ensure his and "mission" safety. along with these missions come the personal perks of the job such as fine women, albeit dangerous at times, other perks of the job includea plethora of hi tech gadgets ALL FUNDED BY THE BRITISH TAX PAYER OF WHICH INCLUDE BLACK PEOPLE AND OTHER NON WHITE ANGLO f*ckIN SAXONS NOT INCLUDING THE FACT THAT BLACK PEOPLE WORK FOR THE MI5/6. SO DONT GET ALL PERSONAL WITH SOME MYTHICAL CHARACTER, WHEN THERES REAL LIFE NON WHITE PEOPLE WITH SOME SORT OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR KEEPING YOU AND THIS CUNTRY "SAFE" getting all political over a f*cking government official you c*nt. thats how some of you bastards are so racist without even knowing it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag. Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 loooool but whys this guy gettin vex over james fuckin bond film i could care lesss if hee gets it or not pers9onally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VENOM Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 HOW MANY PEOPLE WORK FOR MI5? We currently employ about 3,800 people. 41% of staff are women, 56% are less than 40 years old, 8% are from black or ethnic minority backgrounds and 3% have a disability. Around 330 staff currently work in the Security Service on secondment or attachment from other departments and agencies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Luv Doc Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 Have to c/s VEH'NARM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 That guy cant really compare having kelsey grammer being nelson mandela. Mandela is a real person, whereas Bond is fictional, so theres space to change things. White men just hate to see black men in successful, powerful positions. (No Racial) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuffir Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 Both dont make sense. Bond is white. Elba is black. It's is literally like casting leo DiCaprio as shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwriter Posted December 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 Remember guys, when you have white actors playing non-white characters (whether real or fictional) because a significant amount of the white, paying white audience cannot empathise with a non-white (particularly black) character - it's "just business". But if you so much as add a black background character to the cast it's "pandering", "tokenism", and "PC GONE MAD!". And then the same people have the audacity to call the existence of a BET network "reverse-racism". The cognitive dissonance is incredible. You have to pay attention to why people do or do not want something. I look at the industry I'm in and I can say with a full understanding that authenticity is why I don't want a black Bond. Bond is a white dude as far as I'm concerned and it should stay that way. I don't want inclusion or consideration in that way. White actors can keep their roles. I don't even want white studios to shoehorn black people into their films. I find it false and I don't respect the studios for doing it because they are not being true to themselves, and I don't respect the black actors for accepting the roles because there bloody well could be more black roles if we just took command of our destiny. What do I mean by that? Lenny Henry has been in the game for over 30 years. No one can tell me he hasn't made the sort of money that could see him start a television studio, a film studio, or even a tv channel. Instead he complains that white owned studios should cater more for black actors when he could have been the one catering to the black actors he claims to be fighting for. Right now Idris Elba is the biggest black name about. He is being touted to play the likes of James Bond, but there are black roles being overlooked, like the formerly mentioned "Shaft". I'm learning that too many black people simply don't want the responsibility of bringing economic stability. There's too much selfishness. And as for BET? There could easily be a black owned network to rival it tomorrow if a little bit of group economics were practiced. lenny henry started comic relief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuffir Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 nigga relieves comedy everytime he touches mic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thizz Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 / Wouldn't cause enough outrage Muslim Bond would be perfect. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermalt Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 rate lenny henry tbh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwriter Posted December 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 even tho hes the uks household negro and a coon and a coconut all in one u cant deny his acumen for starting comic relief he must have made killings over those 20 years... what nearly 1billion pounds raised faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Crack Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 Black people give MILLIONS of dollars to rappers and athletes for shoes; folks who CANNOT HELP YOU in real life. But we don't spend a DIME on candidates to run for judge or prosecutor where it REALLY counts. This is the very definition of "mixed up priorities." There are only 3 things you can do with a dollar: purchase thing, give it away . . . or invest it. That's it. If you can't tell us HOW that dollar you spent is COMING BACK then you have NOT invested it. Only COONS defend these actions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Crack Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 Back to the Subject Actually race DOES matter in historical context. I'm not a fan of Hollywood altering the racial makeup of characters. What if they turned BA Baracus from The A-Team into a white character making it an all white cast? I don't think we'd approve. The PROBLEM is that they only become racial strict constructionists when you want to alter THEM. But they have NO PROBLEM with altering our ENTIRE CONTINENT and REPLACING us with themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davicious X Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 Black people give MILLIONS of dollars to rappers and athletes for shoes; folks who CANNOT HELP YOU in real life. But we don't spend a DIME on candidates to run for judge or prosecutor where it REALLY counts. This is the very definition of "mixed up priorities." There are only 3 things you can do with a dollar: purchase thing, give it away . . . or invest it. That's it. If you can't tell us HOW that dollar you spent is COMING BACK then you have NOT invested it. Only COONS defend these actions Don why not use your own words? Yes I know exactly who you copy pasted from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Crack Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 Black people give MILLIONS of dollars to rappers and athletes for shoes; folks who CANNOT HELP YOU in real life. But we don't spend a DIME on candidates to run for judge or prosecutor where it REALLY counts. This is the very definition of "mixed up priorities." There are only 3 things you can do with a dollar: purchase thing, give it away . . . or invest it. That's it. If you can't tell us HOW that dollar you spent is COMING BACK then you have NOT invested it. Only COONS defend these actions Don why not use your own words? Yes I know exactly who you copy pasted from. Yes that was the highlight of Jason blacks argument I saw on his page. That had to be said! Ive used my own words many times. But back to the Subject. What about Christian Bale playing Moses? It goes to show you how Hollywood tolerates white people in specific roles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Luv Doc Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Should we replace Samuel L Jackson with a white guy for Nick Fury's character? SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwriter Posted December 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 a fictional character... did you think ian fleming had a guy in mind? if so, and the guy in mind was someone BRITISH, SLIM, TALL DARK AND HANDSOME then tbh that is the line the bond films should go with and go down... if there is no where in his memoirs of such description... its anyones role then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafter Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Idris is British tho and tall and dark and handsome etc An wasnt nick fury always depicted from his inception rather than just described? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwriter Posted December 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 we all no white people say tall dark n handsome as a white man (i always got this misconstrued when i was younger) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Tall dark and handsome is to describe someone who looks like me. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhymer-2 Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Nick Fury was white back in the day. I remember David hassalhoff played him in some film before the avengers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwriter Posted December 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Tall dark and handsome is to describe someone who looks like me. u fucking russian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Luv Doc Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Tall dark and handsome is to describe someone who looks like me. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brem Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 Speaking as a fellow ethnic. I can see why people would make a fuss. Going so far as to boycott and make overt racist comments is out of order but I tend to agree on the fundamental argument that James Bond is a fundamentally white character. 007 has existed for over 50 years in thus form. It's nothing to get too bent out of shape about, if this is your biggest problem then you have it good. That being said it is weird. To counter my own argument, people saying the character is not true to Ian Fleming's portrayal... The last Fleming written bond plot was played by Dalton in the 80's. Everything since has been the work of script writers. The Craig films are as far a departure from Fleming's bond as you could get... It's gritty and realistic. I didn't see much hoo hah when it turned out moneypenny was black. Then again she is bit part. All in all I am presenting a balanced argument. I don't know what other British actor can play to role after Craig. I don't want to see Elba in the role really but if he is the best man then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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