Gambino Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 So Cameron has managed to get his watered down deal with Europe and the date has been set for a vote. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zizouz Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Fucking Farage If he pulls this off, def going down in history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino Posted February 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 The ball has to be in the Out campaigns court now. He didn't even manage to stop child benefits being sent overseas. Watered down to it being paid at the same rate as the home nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seydou Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Someone break this down for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zizouz Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Someone break this down for me. There aint gonna be an impartial breakdown So much conflicting information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino Posted February 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Someone break this down for me.  Basically Cameron said he was gonna do this and that to stop a bunch of shit. European Dons got worried at the prospect of not being able to dictate to you, they scoffed at what Cameron was asking and watered it down to offer him some lighter deals and he claimed a victory on it.  That's my view on it anyways but with regards to fairness allow someone Pro Dictatorship to give you their Pro EU Views on it.  According to Sky.  Things like keeping the Pound which was pretty much how it was either ways. British Tax Payers not having to bail out EU Countries...... Which is how it always should of been anwyays. British Businesses can no longer be discriminated against........ Which is how it always should of been. Child Benefits he wanted to stop being paid to children who live in their home countries, he failed to get it done and instead it's being watered down to being paid at the home countries rates instead. New powers to stop criminals entering the UK and being able to deport ones who commit crimes here. Should of been a no brainer and already easy to do but the fact this needed to be worked on in a new deal tells you what a farce this cartel is. The idea of an ever closer Union does not not apply to the UK. All these deals put on the table which were 'meant to benefit the other countries as well' will only come into effect if Britain votes to remain in the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seydou Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Would it be fair to say that we want to dictate things in the EU but don't want the EU anywhere near us? Why is Norway always cited in these arguments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino Posted February 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 No I don't think that would be fair to say. I think it's fair that Cameron tried to talk a good deal to represent what his people want since they voted him in to represent them, and nobody gets to pick and choose who runs the EU.  I think Norway are not part of the EU but have their free trade agreement with them. Something which Pro EU scaremongerers will constantly try to tell you Britain cannot have if we leave. They use the argument that oh if you quit the EU, The EU won't wanna do deals or buy your products anymore.... Which is absolute bullshit, and since the UK by far buys more from the EU than sells to them it's in their best interest to keep that free trade deal going. It's I think what we originally signed up to when the EU was first started back in the 60s/70s. But they have gradually took it as being some kinda unelected superstate rather than what it was meant to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thun Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Being dictated by unelected EU bureaucracy is more damaging for England then any invading army We would be a stronger nation getting out as can make our own deals and laws, this myth of we need Europe to negotiate our decisions is ludicrous This unlimited immigration policy from Europe has driven down wages and putting pressure on public services downgrading people way of life Get out now before it's too late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino Posted February 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 I'm genuinely waiting for someone Pro EU who loves that whole set up to come in here and share their opinions on it besides the 'It makes it easier for me to travel around' talk. I've never heard any positives to it on here besides that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Luv Doc Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Don't mind either way tbh. Â Only massive positive is we can travel anywhere within the EU. Â Saying that though, when I went Finland, the cunts at the boarder all asking me questions about my stay, do I know anyone here, why am I visiting, do I intend to live/stay.....They can fuuck off! I can go, live and work any fucking where I want in the EU and bang your women too! Â Disclaimer: Out of all countries where white people are the indigenous people, Finland women have the best bums compared to other white chicks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermalt Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 In. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VENOM Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Everyone is pulling out "facts" out of their arse I'm on the fence for now. On the day I'll do ini mini. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum50 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 But real talk paying for children living in Poland is quite bonkers  I had no idea this was even happening until today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 But real talk paying for children living in Poland is quite bonkersYou're a fascist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino Posted February 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Forum seems quite divided on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino Posted February 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2016  But real talk paying for children living in Poland is quite bonkers  I had no idea this was even happening until today   lol You must of missed stories like this as well http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2864952/My-14-000-benefits-helped-build-house-Romanian-migrant-boasts-handouts-UK-helped-construct-home-wife-children-homeland.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james00 Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016   But real talk paying for children living in Poland is quite bonkers  I had no idea this was even happening until today   lol You must of missed stories like this as well http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2864952/My-14-000-benefits-helped-build-house-Romanian-migrant-boasts-handouts-UK-helped-construct-home-wife-children-homeland.html  lovely story to be honest, should make a film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zizouz Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Mr.Lazar, glad we could have been of help, I still have a mortgage to pay off so must press on! UKIP for me come May 2015    /  UKIP guys are vocal  reminds me of   (yeah yeah I know you had a couple mil votes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
local Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 wow  i aint read the topic fully but the poll is even atm  whats goin on vip2?  bloody kkk nazi shits  fuck the motherland  open the borders  im fully backing staying in, no offence grandad  more dumb shit consumers for me  n it aint jus about being able to travel justin, we can actually migrate easy to europe  thats the big clincher for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
local Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016  Mr.Lazar, glad we could have been of help, I still have a mortgage to pay off so must press on! UKIP for me come May 2015    /  UKIP guys are vocal  reminds me of   (yeah yeah I know you had a couple mil votes)   so thats where that meme comes from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 5-10 years post-Brexit, do people think living standards and job opportunities will have increased? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
local Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 the question should be worded more, how much would they have decreased in comparison  i dont think there's any upward movement coming for the masses  its about damage limitation really  /  do you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VENOM Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 This unlimited immigration policy from Europe has driven down wages ...... Fact check: Only in the construction industry..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Forum seems quite divided on it.
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lol You must of missed stories like this as well http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2864952/My-14-000-benefits-helped-build-house-Romanian-migrant-boasts-handouts-UK-helped-construct-home-wife-children-homeland.html
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lovely story to be honest, should make a film.
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so thats where that meme comes from
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5-10 years post-Brexit, do people think living standards and job opportunities will have increased?
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Fact check: Only in the construction industry.....
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