The Official Manchester United Thread

[JOHN DOE]

very surreal seeing mata like that 

 

keep em coming

[Horatio Caine]

instead of valencia id like to see young,  reason, is  if some1 behind rooney isnt gettin enough joy,young can swap etc,all 3 inter changeable 

 

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2mrw shud b good

[Kompressor]

Here's a question, If Moyes had been able to paper over the cracks and seen the team in 3rd/4th, would the talk of transfers be so positive/exciting? 

 

in 3 or 4 years could this "crisis period" be seen as a blessing in disguise?

[Kompressor]

Lingard has just equalised against City.

 

http://tykestv.eu/streams/xtra/xtra9/

[Fresh]

Cole on stuff

[Agony]

Juan Mata’s move to Manchester United has left fans a bit speechless given the magnitude of what his arrival could mean for the club.

The 25-year-old made the move from Chelsea for a record £37.1 million and there is a real buzz about hopefully seeing him in a United shirt against Cardiff on Tuesday, but he might be just as excited to play as we are to see him.

Croatian journalist Antonio Bevanda has recollected a brilliant anecdote for 24Sata from when he met Mata in Croatia back in 2010 and found out he was a United fan.

“The young Spanish team won 3-0. Ivan Rakitic lost his teeth and after I went to the dressing room to speak to Bojan Krkic and Juan Mata.

“There was a Spanish journalist who was with Mata and Krkic for an exclusive interview. His idea was that the pair discussed the upcoming derby between Barcelona and Valencia which was to be played a few days later at the Nou Camp.

“Mata came out of the locker room and the reporter took a red shirt from his bag and gave it to Juan who threw it in his bag.

“It seemed to me that this jersey was Eric Cantona of Manchester United but I wanted to check with Juan. ‘I saw that you put in the bag jersey, is that a Manchester United shirt’, I asked.

“Mata laughed and replied: ‘Yes, this is United’s jersey. I’m a big fan of theirs. I hope that one day I can play at Old Trafford.’”

Mata has always been a red!

http://thepeoplesperson.com/proof-that-juan-mata-has-always-been-a-manchester-united-fan/

http://m.24sata.hr/#nogomet/mata-nam-je-2010-priznao-da-veliki-sam-navijac-man-uniteda-350469

[Kompressor]

And our archaic scouting system has led us to have to pay a record fee and only secure him due to him being out of favour at his last club.

Magnier & McManus should've put scrutiny on Martin Ferguson's role at United and not just Jason's.

Hopefully the realisation that Fergie's method weren't all laced in goal will see a reform in the way we Scout and identify players.

Chief scout who never uncovered any gems and only successfully recommended the glaringly obvious options.

[Agony]

All i got from that is that Woodward is scared to talk to another big team in case they ask for a player. This is the man who has to do Moyes' bidding in the transfer market. This is the man who replaced the best in the business (even if Gill is c*nt) 

 

We know why he was employed as it was made clear before he got the job but seriously. couldn't they have him shadow Gill for a year or so before Gill resigned? ohh yeah it came by surprise didn't it.

He was initially given a financial planning role, before taking on responsibility for United's commercial and media operations in 2007 and becoming a director in 2012.

Woodward had no experience of working in sport before he joined United, but began attending Premier League shareholder meetings alongside Gill in 2012 in an attempt to increase his understanding of football politics.

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Woodward was nowhere near the right choice to replace Gill but the Glazers owed him seeing as he was the one that advised them on how to takeover United.

P.s. I don't want no trouble #LUHG

[Agony]

Heard Martin Ferguson scouted Isco and said he was "too slow" and "unable to influence the game" so fuck Martin.

[Creed Diskenth]

[Tee]

Heard Martin Ferguson scouted Isco and said he was "too slow" and "unable to influence the game" so f*ck Martin.

Wow smh

[Kompressor]

All i got from that is that Woodward is scared to talk to another big team in case they ask for a player. This is the man who has to do Moyes' bidding in the transfer market. This is the man who replaced the best in the business (even if Gill is c*nt) 

 

We know why he was employed as it was made clear before he got the job but seriously. couldn't they have him shadow Gill for a year or so before Gill resigned? ohh yeah it came by surprise didn't it.

He was initially given a financial planning role, before taking on responsibility for United's commercial and media operations in 2007 and becoming a director in 2012.Woodward had no experience of working in sport before he joined United, but began attending Premier League shareholder meetings alongside Gill in 2012 in an attempt to increase his understanding of football politics.

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Woodward was nowhere near the right choice to replace Gill but the Glazers owed him seeing as he was the one that advised them on how to takeover United.

P.s. I don't want no trouble #LUHG

It's all depressing tbh

Woodward by his own admission is a novice. He was put in charge to primarily protect Glazer family interests.

As I've said you don't employ a guy who's job has always been to make money and put him in charge of spending it,

Shareholders meetings is all fair enough but when his job entails signing players I'd imagine sitting in on a few transfer and contract negotiations were just as if not more important.

Woodward + Fergie

Gill + Moyes Could've worked the current partnership has led to Fergie and Gill having to come back and negotiate a deal.

Biggest club in the world people. This is the model everyone should follow.

Bring back Peter Kenyon! FFS

[Kompressor]

Heard Martin Ferguson scouted Isco and said he was "too slow" and "unable to influence the game" so f*ck Martin.

Wow smh

There's countless stories like this. I guess all those wine tasting parties/ Booze sessions with his brother and other dignitaries from other clubs clouded his judgements.

I rate Fergie for bringing in his closest and dearest I'm just surprised he didn't get Cathy a job in the kitchen at Carrington.

[Young £]

Who remembers lol

Funny re reading this back now I'm older and understand a hella of alot more

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2004/feb/01/newsstory.sport5

99 Damning Questions: Part 1

Charles Sale Daily Mail January 30th 2004

Exclusive: Exactly what the Coolmore Mafia demanded to know from Manchester United.

One day after Sir Alex Ferguson signed his new £4.5 million contract, Sportsmail reveals the 99 questions which could wreck his hopes of continuing as manager of Manchester United.

United’s complete board of directors must also be in danger, such is the strength of concern shown by major shareholders John Magnier and JP McManus about the running of Old Trafford.

The nuclear row between Magnier and Ferguson that began as a private spat over the breeding rights to stallion Rock of Gibraltar now covers every aspect of the worlds most famous football club, especially the way they conduct their transfer business.

The 99 questions, and an equally damning covering letter, were sent by lawyers acting for Cubic Expression, the company through which Magnier and McManus own 25.49 per cent of United, to the club’s chairman Sir Roy Gardner, with copies going to chief executive David Gill.

The documents on Cubic Expression notepaper contain a forensic-style dissection of the club’s ability, as a plc company, to provide the necessary information on every aspect of the buying and selling business.

Even the unconditional worship that Ferguson enjoys from United fans, and the full support of the board, might not now be enough to secure his future at Old Trafford.

The main focus of the questions, and the letter that accompanies them, is United’s transfer dealings and the club’s use of agents. These have caused great controversy recently, in particular the alleged involvement of Ferguson’s son Jason and his Elite agency in a number of high-profile transfers of United players.

Neither Jason Ferguson nor Elite are mentioned by name in any of the correspondence, but it’s highly critical of the secretive way transfers are conducted by agents and of the failure to fully disclose the amounts paid to them.

At one point it specifically calls for: “The prohibition of payments for player transfers to agents or agencies whose members or directors have a close personal connection with the Company or any officer or employee of the Company.’

The Coolmore Mafia, so styled after Magnier’s Coolmore Stud in Co. Tipperary, speaking with the authority of their huge shareholding, want a code of conduct that would ban any future football relationship between manager father and agent son.

But the mountain of information already in possession of Cubic, who have employed corporate detectives Kroll to look into every aspect of the manager’s business affairs, suggest enough in the past to warrant action.

The complaints from Coolmore, despite suggestions yesterday that Ferguson might be wiling to settle his legal dispute over the horse, are now so extensive, and in the public domain, that an Extraordinary General Meeting and a shareholders’ vote on the future of manager and board looks inevitable.

It is more than a coincidence that the Irish want more information about moves either in or out of Old Trafford concerning Juan Sebastián Verón, Rio Ferdinand, Diego Forlan, Jonathan Greening, Mark Wilson, Jaap Stam, Tim Howard, Kleberson, Cristiano Ronaldo, Roy Carroll, Laurent Blanc, David Bellion and Massimo Taibi.

Many of these moves are suspected to have had some connection with Jason Ferguson’s Elite agency, either directly or through associates.

United finance director Nick Humby, leading the in-house probe into the club’s recent transfer dealing – one concession which the Irish have already dismissed as a whitewash – will now have to provide an answer to his most important shareholders to 99 separate issues, several involving the use of agents.

The forensic Irish questioning goes to the epicentre of the bung culture that currently infects football. And it will not go unnoticed that it has taken a racing operation, famed for its approach, to demand the sort of action that the football authorities should have instigated ages ago.

The letter from Ireland states: ‘In particular, we wish to draw the Board’s attention to areas where we consider the supervision of the Company’s affairs appears to be falling short of best practice in corporate governance and accepted industry standards.’

And it ends: ‘We also enclose with this letterer an attached schedule of questions, which relate to particular transactions with which we are concerned.’

Magnier and McManus cannot understand the need for secrecy about agents’ involvement and the ‘astonishing’ fees paid to them.

[Fresh]

 

[Benicio del Toney]

Heard Martin Ferguson scouted Isco and said he was "too slow" and "unable to influence the game" so fuck Martin.

 

lol

 

This is why the GB National teams don't stand a chance in hell of competing.

[stacksbranning]

Hes gonna ruin the lad .

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[kerser]

Is there any way you could play these guys all at the same time?

rvp

rooney

welbeck

mata

januzai

kagawa

[i5_PRODUCER]

4-1-4-1

                     VP

KAGS ROONEY MATA ADNAN

                  FELLI

EVRA SMALLING EVANS RAFA

 

 

Rooney will have to do a job

 

sorry welbs 

[Fresh]

                RVP

Januzaj Kagawa Welbeck

           Mata Rooney

Evra Evans Smalling Rafael

[Yoshie]

[Horatio Caine]

lool ffs

[Agony]

EXCLUSIVE: Sportswear giants Nike and adidas battle it out for United's mega £70m-a-year kit deal

By Ian Ladyman

19:10 28 Jan 2014, updated 20:28 28 Jan 2014

A bidding war between sportswear giants Nike and adidas is set to push the value of Manchester United’s next kit deal beyond the £70m-a-year mark, it emerged on Tuesday evening.

Just a day after Arsenal signed a British record deal with Puma of £35m-a-year, Sportsmail can reveal that the battle for United’s next kit reached fever pitch this week with rival companies adidas, Warrior and Puma all attending meetings with commercial director Richard Arnold to pitch for the deal.

United’s current suppliers Nike are favourites to renew the present contract that runs at £23.5m-a-year and expires in 2015.

However a period of exclusivity – during which United could talk only to them about a new contract – ran out at the end of last July and United are now free to speak to rival bidders.

adidas were first through the door at Old Trafford this week, spending Monday outlining their plans to Arnold and his team. Officials from up and coming US firm Warrior – who pay £25m-a-year to supply Liverpool’s kit – spent all day at the club yesterday while Puma are expected to attend meetings on Wednesday.

It is understood that United and Nike have had some serious disagreements over the way a new contract would be structured in the last two weeks and it is this that has opened the door for Adidas and others.

The winner from the whole thing will be United, of course, as serious competition from other brands will only serve to drive up the price over and above the £65m-a-year mark experts originally thought it would come in at.

One industry expert said: 'This is great news for United as the more serious interest they attract from rival competitors, the higher the numbers they will manage to eventually get on the contract.'

The new deal is expected to run over five years and come in at over £350m in total. It serves to indicate just how powerful the Barclays Premier League champions are, regardless of their recent difficulties on the field under new manager David Moyes.

The deal will dwarf not only Arsenal’s recent Puma contract but also Chelsea’s £20m-a-year contract with Adidas and Manchester City’s £12m-a-year arrangement with Nike.

Another number to look out for in the coming weeks is that attached to Barcelona’s forthcoming new deal with Nike. It is understood that Nike are contractually bound to match that at least when dealing with United.

A club spokesman said: 'We currently are in discussions with multiple parties regarding our Global Retail, Apparel & Product Licensing business starting in the 2015/16 Season.

'This process is a routine practice used for our global and regional sponsorship deals and helps us maximize the value/structure of the Club’s partnerships.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2546635/Nike-adidas-battle-Manchester-Uniteds-new-70m-year-kit-deal.html

[Benicio del Toney]

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2012/10/08/exclusive-manchester-united-and-real-madrid-top-global-shirt-sale-charts-081001/

 

It's saying Man U sell an average of 1.4 mill shirts a year.

 

 

Quick sums

 

£55 x 1.4mill = £77mill

 

 

I don't see how it can go too high above 70mill if the new supplier wants to make a profit.