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[ShadyOne]

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[Haze-e]

Feel like going to instagram just to double tap it Kmt.

And that article. Smh.

"Sadly, it appears that our priority is to not lose games rather than to win them and it’s simply not good enough. We see your after match interviews and you constantly tell us that we have played well when it’s clear for all to see that we have not only not played well, but we’ve been absolutely woeful week after week."

[JOHN DOE]

 

An open letter to David Moyes

in Fan Articles —

Dear Mr Moyes,

I have a very simple question for you: how long are you going to have the nerve to remain as manager of Everton FC?

I have watched Everton for 50 years and I can honestly say that the football we are currently being subjected to is the worst I have ever seen us play. This isn’t a new problem; we’ve been gradually on the slide since we lost the FA Cup final. You have sold any flair players we’ve had and have claimed it has been your decision to do so. Pienaar, Arteta, Yakubu (who apparently could have gone to West Ham for a reported 6 million pounds and then was sold for peanuts a few months later).

A reported 14 million pound bid for Jagielka was rejected but you deemed 10 million to be enough for our best player. Beckford was moved on after a decent first season yet Anichebe who has never looked like a Premier League player is awarded a long contract. Denis and Drenthe were brought in but hardly get any game time while Saha and Cahill plod on looking well past their sell by dates.

We hear that Barkley is something special but never see him. The style of football is so negative it is beyond belief. This club has a proud history and a reputation for playing attractive football. We didn’t get the nickname of ‘School of Science’ for no reason. The greatest centre forward that ever played the game played for Everton and we built a reputation around that position.The number nine shirt at Everton means something to fans of this club, we expect to have top class centre forwards on the pitch every week and not sat on the bench while we attempt to eke out a one nil win or even a nil nil draw. Nil Satis seems to have been thrown in the bin nowadays at Everton.

We play games with no strikers on the pitch, something we don’t see from any other team. I remember you saying that if you ever lose the fans you would leave the club. Well believe me, Mr Moyes, you are seriously losing the fans as the dwindling attendances show.

If Everton played football worth watching the ground would be full every game. We constantly hear that David Moyes has worked wonders with little money. Sorry but that doesn’t wash: when you have had money it’s been wasted. Kroldrup, Heitinga, Bilyaletdino all spring to mind. Paul Lambert at Norwich and Brendan Rodgers at Swansea are living proof that you don’t need bags of money to compete at this level; it’s not the players you have on the pitch but it’s the way you tell them to play the game.

Every team can play passing, attacking football no matter how much money they’ve spent; the two teams I mentioned prove it and believe me, they are both far more exciting to watch than David Moyes’ Everton. You have turned strikers like Beattie, Johnson and Yakubu from being top class goalscorers into ordinary players by asking them to play wide chasing hopeful long punts from the back. Sorry but that’s not a centre forwards job, you provide service to any striker and they will score goals.And the place where they are most effective is in the penalty area, not by the corner flag. It appears that you have decided that the Moyes way is the way Everton are going to play even though it’s clearly not working, over half the season gone and not a single performance to get excited about.

There’s a saying that if something isnt broken then don’t fix it, well the fact is that Everton is broken almost beyond repair and it needs major surgery, and that involves change. The system we adopt doesn’t work and needs to be altered. There are talented players at the club who don’t get enough game time. Saha isn’t scoring goals yet keeps his place but Denis gets 4 or 5 minutes at the end of games. Give him a run of 10 games and then we’ll see if he’s going to be good enough.

Lets see Drenthe given a regular start because he clearly has the ability and is a naturally attacking player. It’s pointless starting him one in every four games, that isn’t doing him or the team any favours. I’ve heard that he has to learn to develop his game and up his work ethic and learn to defend more because that’s the Everton way. Well I beg to differ, the Everton way is not to have your attack minded players turn into workrate zombies, if Drenthe is attack minded then leave him attack minded because thats how you win football matches.

Sadly, it appears that our priority is to not lose games rather than to win them and it’s simply not good enough. We see your after match interviews and you constantly tell us that we have played well when it’s clear for all to see that we have not only not played well, but we’ve been absolutely woeful week after week. That is treating the fans that work hard to pay your wages like fools and they deserve better. How can you seriously expect people to keep putting their hands in their pockets to watch the dreadful anti football that you have Everton serving up every week?

The fans aren’t fools and they wont be treated that way as you are seeing by the numbers that are staying away. Even in our dark days when we were in relegation fights we did the one thing that your team doesn’t do, we played attacking football. It seems the only option we have for getting the ball forward now is the big hoof up the pitch and it’s not acceptable. Fans would accept results going against us if they were watching good football but take it from me, as much as it pains me to say it, Everton play the most awful football to watch in the league without a shadow of a doubt.

I honestly dont know how you have the nerve to stay at the club being paid an enormous salary and making no apparent effort to put things right or change the way we play. I can assure you that I take no pleasure whatsoever in writing this letter but it’s the only way I can let off steam because I’m watching your tactics slowly destroy my club and it hurts.

Ten years at the club and no trophies whatsoever says to me that you have outstayed your welcome. Please do the decent thing and make way for somebody who wants to give the fans good football and some hope. We don’t want our teams ambition to be to finish anywhere above 17th every year but that’s the impression that you give now. We’re sinking fast and its time for change…….please.

Les Olsen

The views expressed in Fan Articles on SOS1878 do not necessarily reflect the viewpoint of the SOS1878 owners.

http://www.sos1878.co.uk/everton-fans/an-open-letter-to-david-moyes/

 

Deja vu

 

look at the comments

 

 

i could not have said it any better myself, we could sign the best striker in the world and moyes would ruin him in a mtter of weeks, dithering dave and his style of play is a far cry from the way we play, i read that moyes might go to spurs as manager if harry left, what a load of crap does anyone really believe the spurs fans would put up with the negativety of moyes as we have for the last 5 years, they would be calling for him to go in weeks and they would be right

 

 

 

Brilliant article and 100% correct. I am finding this season to be the most depressing I have experienced as an Everton fan. I can hardly bear to watch us play these days. If it wasn’t for Baines, I doubt we would manage to get the ball in the oppositions penalty area for the entire 90 minutes.

 

 

 

 

An excellent article and plenty that I agree with there. I am constantly surprised by those so called Evertonians who back Moyes irrespective of how poor our football is and how negative and tactically inept he actually is. It would be interesting to know how many of those people are actually old enough to remember when we played decent football. The last time that happened was 1995 when Joe Royle assembled a team of hard working players who could counter attack with real speed and panache (remember how we won the cup final that year?). In fact, I would honestly prefer to see Moyes go and Royle come back. At least there would be some passion from a genuine Evertonian and former centre forward. It’s also worth remembering that he didn’t spend too much to save us from relegation, win the cup and then get us to sixth place. He also got little Oldham into the top flight and kept them there for a while without spending anything.

What annoys me most though is comments like Dan’s….that stats show that we have the highest percentage of substitutes scoring goals. Is that a good thing? To me that just says that our clueless manager doesn’t even manage to put out his best eleven at the start of a game.

 

 

For me the EFC management team have lost the plot, the combination of Moyes and Round is disastrous for our club, they are too defensive minded , cautious, negative, stubborn, their tactics and style of play are so predictable.

The team spirit seems to have drained away from the players, but even worse is the visible decline in the passion from us the fans, Everton don’t entertain the fans, don’t score, don’t attack enough, don’t even put in the crunching tackle or chase down a lost cause, give us something to get excited about, the whole club is stale and in decline.

 

[The Infamous]

Highest percentage of substitute goals is that a good thing?

Moysey for life

[Lieutenant]

Just clocked why Toney don't fuck with Moyes

It's due to his treatment of Beckford

Makes sense now

[JOHN DOE]

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Mexico boss Miguel Herrera has claimed that Manchester United striker Javier Hernandez is frustrated with a lack of opportunities at Old Trafford.

 

The 25-year-old has featured 16 times in the Premier League so far this season but he has mainly been used off the bench, making just four starts.

 

Hernandez has been linked with an exit in recent months, although his agent claimed that the striker had turned down offers from a number of European sides during the January transfer window.

 

The Mexico star has two years remaining on his current deal with United but Herrera says Hernandez is unhappy after speaking with him on a recent tour of Europe.

 

"He seemed well but he is a bit frustrated because he doesn't play despite training well and the truth is that when he does play, he makes a huge effort on the pitch," he told Raza Deportiva.

 

"He is a bit frustrated because the current manager doesn't give him many chances, but he is committed and doing what he can to become a starter.

 

"He likes to work and likes to show determination to achieve his goal."

 

[Mame Biram Diouf]

RIO FERDINAND has been left out of Manchester United’s squad for a warm-weather training camp in Dubai — and is set to announce he will retire this summer.

 

United will make a statement on Thursday explaining the defender’s exclusion from the five-day trip to the Middle East.

 

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Tom Cleverley determined to prove critics wrong after being made a 'scapegoat' at Manchester United

 

“When I first started getting singled out, it stung,” the midfielder tells Oliver Holt. "But it’s something you have got to learn to take"

 

Tom Cleverley sat on the edge of his sofa in the front room of his house in south Manchester on Monday.

 

He was being told about questions put to Manchester United team-mate Michael Carrick during a Twitter forum organised by the club programme last week.

 

The first #askCarrick: “If you could drop one player from the team, how do you tell Cleverley?”

 

The second #askCarrick:  “Do you watch Cleverley train to feel good about yourself?”

 

The third #askCarrick:  “You can travel back in time. Do you kill Hitler or stop Cleverley being born?”

 

Cleverley laughed. Not a bitter laugh. Not the laugh of someone who’s been beaten down by the criticism. Just the laugh of someone who knows the territory and who is learning to cope with it.

 

It has not been an easy season for any of the United players as the club struggles to adapt to the departure of Sir Alex Ferguson.

 

The criticism of them redoubled after a home draw with bottom club Fulham left them marooned nine points adrift of fourth-placed Liverpool. Almost to a man, their commitment has been questioned and their ability traduced. But it has been worst of all for Cleverley.

 

Somewhere along the line, as it became evident that United were not the force of old, Cleverley was made the scapegoat. The young England player, the 24-year-old who has supported United since the age of 10, suddenly found himself being blamed when they fell from the summit.

 

“When I first started getting singled out, it stung, yeah,” Cleverley says, “but it’s something you have got to learn to take when the team is not doing well.

 

“My job goes under the radar at times. I am not a player who’s going to beat three or four people and stick it in the top corner or go round tackling people like Roy Keane.

 

“I would like the fans on my side and it hurts a little bit when you have grown up at the club and love the club every bit as much as the supporters.

 

“But there are other people in the current United squad who have been through this kind of thing and they have made sure their quality shone through.

 

“I have got to look at those people. I have learned to take it with a pinch of salt and I’m sure it will make me stronger for the rest of my career.

 

“I feel I’ve been made a scapegoat a little bit. A few people in the media certainly seem to have a perception of me not doing much in the team.

 

“Don’t get me wrong, I know I can do better but people are making a big thing about how I don’t score enough goals when that is not necessarily my first job in the team.”

 

There is a bitter irony attached to the scapegoating of Cleverley: English fans clamoured for a young player who keeps possession and moves the ball quickly and efficiently in transition and then, when they got one, they have tried to run him out of town.

 

It is no surprise that England boss Roy Hodgson remains a fan and the England boss knows that Cleverley’s technical ability will serve England well in the heat of Brazil where carelessness in possession will be punished.

 

United fans might want to see Cleverley in a box-to-box role, bursting forward, getting ahead of the ball. But that is not the role David Moyes has asked him to play.

 

Moyes wants him in a disciplined position as one of two holding midfielders and Cleverley has worked hard to adapt his game to follow his manager’s instructions.

 

'What Is The Point of Tom Cleverley?' is another common refrain on social media. Well, put it this way, if Cleverley had been on the pitch, Steve Sidwell would not have been allowed to drift unmarked into the box and score Fulham’s first goal on Sunday evening.

 

“I watch Spanish football a lot,” Cleverley says. “If they pass the ball sideways but keep possession, the fans clap them.

 

“Their attitude is that as long as you have got the ball, the other team can’t hurt you.

 

“I know the mentality is different here and that is what makes our game the best in the world because it is so intense.

 

“But sometimes I have got to not listen and play my game because I feel I’m doing the best thing for the team.”

 

This may surprise his critics but the statistics tell you that the Red Devils’ win ratio this season is significantly better with Cleverley in the side.

 

It has become easy and fashionable to make the Cleverley the face of United’s decline because he is being asked to do an unglamorous job. The reality is that, as

 

United attract criticism for the predictability of their play, Cleverley’s energy and speed of transition, is exactly what they need.

 

“My confidence has been a little bit low at times this season,” Cleverley admitted. “There is not much worse for a player than getting it off his own fans.

 

“I don’t mind hearing stick off 19 of 20 Premier League clubs. But when it comes from your own fans, it hurts a little bit more.

 

“The fans at Old Trafford have been magnificent. It’s just background noise you can’t help hearing when you’re a United player.

 

“You have got to learn not to take it on board. You have to remind yourself you got yourself in this position through talent and hard work.

 

“My skin is a lot thicker now. I go into every game with a clearer head. You have just got to ride out the hard times.

 

“The history of this club is all about fighting back and I am absolutely determined that my future is here and that I will fight back with it.”

 

 

 

Our Tom >>>>>

 

If only we had a good manager in charge who knew how to use players like him

[Mame Biram Diouf]

 

 

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Man United: Where Jose Inspires His Team, Moyes Only Belittles His Players

 

David Moyes would have us believe that the gods are against him, and have been since the day he walked through the doors of Old Trafford to take over one of the footballing world’s biggest and most prestigious posts.

 

The rub of the green; injuries; incompetent referees; nasty computers that cackle as they spew forth their fixture lists. All of these things, and more, have apparently conspired against the Manchester United manager, making his first season in charge of the champions ‘much worse’ than he expected it to be.

 

During desperate times, when someone feels that the whole world is against them, and all their best laid plans lie in ruins at their feet, it is a perfectly understandable, human reaction to try to find something, or someone, other than themselves, to blame.

 

David Moyes has generally pointed the finger squarely at that precious commodity, luck, or a lack of it, to explain United’s catastrophic demise since he took charge last summer.

 

In so doing, he is insulting the intelligence of a set of supporters who have been suckled on success over many years, and who have grown so accustomed to, not just winning, but winning in style, that they now demand it as their divine right.

 

Another disappointing display against dire opposition, in front of a home crowd starved of the sustenance they have taken for granted for so long, was followed by yet more pathetic platitudes from the mouth of a manager tripping himself up over the wool he is trying to pull over eyes that cannot be blinded.

 

Moyes could do worse than to take a leaf out of Ernest Hemingway’s book, ‘The Old Man and the Sea,’ in which Hemingway’s old man says “It is better to be lucky. But I would rather be exact.” For great managers do not rely on luck. They rely on their own greatness, and their ability to get the best from the players at their disposal.

 

Rarely do we hear the likes of Ferguson, Mourinho or Guardiola decrying the hand they have been dealt. Yet Moyes has made misfortune his mistress over the last six months.

 

Manchester United should never have to rely on luck and, if after pounding your opponents’ penalty box with nigh on a century of aimless crosses has reaped scant reward, is it really so much to ask that your manager try getting lucky by some other means?

 

Moyes is making a fool of himself, and alienating a crowd who have, thus far, given him the benefit of the doubt since he took charge. Are we really to believe that Ferguson’s achievement in his final year at the helm was based solely on a few rolls of the dice? Would Jose Mourinho have found such a dearth of talent in the Old Trafford dressing room as to be constantly harping on about the urgent need to re-build?

 

It is extremely doubtful. Mourinho, while identifying areas in need of strengthening, would have inspired the very best out of the talent that Moyes sees fit to belittle at every turn. Not only that, but in complaining about the squad bequeathed to him by his predecessor, Moyes is attempting to pass any responsibility for United’s current plight onto Ferguson himself.

 

There is no doubt that the players cannot be blameless in bringing about this ongoing farce, yet their inability to reach anything approaching the heights of previous seasons says more about their new manager than it does about them. It is abundantly clear that they do not believe in the Scot, and that their creativity and self-belief has been sapped with staggering speed.

 

Moyes complains of a ‘mental softness’ that has overcome his players. Yet if the same players whose collective mantelpiece is bowed down under the weight of their medal-haul are now beset by fear, then there is one man, and one man alone, to blame.

 

That man is David Moyes, who admitted to having ‘no idea’ how his team lost at the weekend, after conceding a ‘diabolical’ second goal. If the gods really are against him, it may be time for Moyes to take a trip to the crossroads and strike a deal with the devil instead. Few other options remain.

 

[Mame Biram Diouf]

 

[Mame Biram Diouf]

What We Learned: Manchester United 2-2 Fulham

 

For anyone questioning if things could get any worse for Manchester United under David Moyes, lest we be reminded that there’s still the small matter of the Manchester derby to navigate before the season’s end. So yes, the situation could undoubtedly worsen. But a shocking, dispiriting and crushing 2-2 draw against Fulham having dominated against the Premier League’s bottom club is certainly as low as United have sunk under Moyes’ stewardship. 81 crosses, a share of possession fit for a pack of lions and another late goal conceded; it did not make for pretty viewing, and it leaves many wondering if a push for fourth place is unrealistic as early as February. Here’s what we made of it.

 

Rene Meulensteen had every right to be besides himself with glee at the end of yesterday’s match. How many teams have escaped Old Trafford with a result like this having spent the best part of three quarters of the game without the ball? It was a possessional, territorial hammering but they still left Manchester with a point. Is that down solely to those 81 crosses? Nope, but they certainly helped.

 

Fulham were committed, determined and showed valiant effort yesterday, but the truth is that United made it far too easy for them by repeatedly crossing the ball into a heavily guarded box. To Meulensteen’s credit, he kept his side composed in the face of United’s almost unending pressure but it wasn’t nearly as difficult for Fulham to defend as it should have been. Crosses frequently either missed their intended targets or were flighted into the area in the vain hope that someone would reach them.

 

Yet this was not a strategy that has reaped dividends for United all season, with its failings exposed even further after United scored twice from central positions after, wait for it, passing the football to each other.

 

If David Moyes is stuck for things to do before United’s next home game in twelve days, a relocation of the black hole that appears to have inexplicably moved from the Stretford End to behind the East Stand goal would be a start. Darren Bent’s late header was yet another late goal conceded in a season that has seen Everton,

Southampton, Swansea and now Fulham leave Old Trafford with something to shout about due to a last-gasp strike. There is a sense of karmic justice to it given the frequency with which United used to steal victories late on, but almost every goal has come from a defensive lapse or hopeful probing as opposed to any sort of sustained pressure. Not that the teams haven’t deserved their results or their moment of glory, they were just incredibly avoidable.

 

Yesterday’s goal wasn’t an exception; Nemanja Vidic and Michael Carrick were sleeping and David De Gea’s wild parry from Richardson’s shot allowed the ball to fall into Bent’s path. These lapses  are causing United a huge amount grief, doubly so when considering that every single game they play continues to feature such tight scorelines. Scoring belated winners isn’t a priority at this point; shutting down such a surprising, undermining trend is.

 

The transfer of Juan Mata for a club record £37.1m last month was an exciting moment in an increasingly disappointing season, offering a feel-good factor and potentially invigorating both the club and its fans. Still, there was a niggling sense that perhaps Mata wasn’t completely aware of quite what he was getting himself into. Three stuttering games into the Spaniard’s United career that have provided just one victory against struggling opposition should give him a decent idea, however.

 

t’s not as if Mata has underperformed since his move. Far from it; he’s laid on three assists already, most recently crossing for Van Persie’s equaliser yesterday but he began the game on the right wing. The problem appears to be that David Moyes isn’t quite sure how best to utilise his star signing, with another rigid use of 4-4-2 practically nullifying his talents. Plenty were quick to appropriate a joke comparing Mata’s treatment to an old man being given a smartphone. The joke’s originator has a point, though and prolonged exposure to positions that don’t involve a decent role behind the striker will not help matters at all.

 

At present, Wayne Rooney holds all of the cards in regards to his contract situation. He might have been told that he won’t be sold under any circumstance; nevermind. He’ll run out his contract and move on next year. United, of course, want to make him the highest paid player in the club’s history in order to retain his services, regardless of how many games it takes for him to get back up to a decent level of form. Rooney has, of course, only just returned from a lay-off and typically takes some time to get his performances back up to scratch. This isn’t a damning indictment of a player that has frequently shown more passion and desire to keep United ticking over than those deemed loyal to the club, more a point at the club’s desperation to placate a player who now has all of the power in a rather unconventional relationship. He doesn’t need to worry about playing close to his peak, or rushing back to form; he can simply do as he wants because he knows the club wants to keep him. That, at a time when United needs its players to be pulling together should be noted.

 

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Japanese football has really come alive over the last 5 or so years. What once was a country that produced an occasional top league player has seen Keisuke Honda, Shinji Kagawa, Yuto Nagatomo and many others become very well-known names within the footballing circles since 2010.

 

It is Kagawa who is the cream of the crop, a player who signed with Borussia Dortmund in 2010 as a virtual nobody for European football fans. In Japan he was known, having played for the national team already by that time. He took no time to win over the Borussia Dortmund faithful and soon whole footballing world followed.

 

His debut season was wonderful, but he is showing this season that he can take his game even further. His form in 2012 has been nothing short of fantastic and he has really been able to step up when Dortmund needed him during Mario Götze's injury.

 

Kagawa who'll turn 23 next month, is someone who most top clubs in Europe have their eye on and his situation at the moment is a bit complicated. He has announced that he wants to extend his deal lasting until 2013, but considering the fact that there is just a little more than a year remaining of his contract, Dortmund will have to take into account the possibility that some big team could make Kagawa change his mind and he might move in the summer.

 

 

Analysis of Kagawa's Performances:

 

2012 has been a great year for Kagawa and so were the three games I watched him play in. He started all those games as a central attacking midfielder behind Robert Lewandowski.

 

He seems to have a relative amount of freedom in the Jürgen Klopp team as he sometimes exchanges positions with Lewandowski even while at times also dropping deeper than the two central midfielders behind him. He also drifts freely from one side of the pitch to another.

 

He scored three goals in those games, including a double against Hoffenheim. His impressive performances made him the man of the match in my eyes in all of those games where he was clearly the most talented player on show.

 

Messi-esque dribbler

 

Kagawa is small player and this gives him an advantage when it comes to balance and he uses his this very well.

 

His dribbling and movement is very similar to Argentine superstar Leo Messi who he has also be compared with. He has shrugged off those comparisons himself, but they are not far off. He needs to show far more consistency, but in a single game he is very capable of being almost unplayable.

 

He is able to shrug off a lot of challenges, the ball sticks to his feet, he has a fast turn and his acceleration is superb, all those things apply even in the later stages of the game when you'd forgive him for being a bit tired.

 

It was this acceleration and brilliant close control that played a part in his goals. For his first goal against Hoffenheim, he left one defender for dead with a few steps in the box and for the goal against Leverkusen, he got the ball 25-30 yards from goal, sprinted past one defender and then stopped suddenly in the box to take out another defender before finishing with left foot.

 

Opponent defenders simply could not handle his acceleration as he constantly left them chasing shadows with or without the ball. He was always looking to get free and find as much free space as possible. His determination and work-rate also seems to confirm the stereotypes about hard-working and disciplined Japanese once again.

 

Coming back to physical side, the small stature does create a few problems. When he loses his concentration, he sometimes lets the defenders closer than he should and then he is weak against the incoming challenge. Playing in a league where defenders go through the back more often than in Germany could require some adapting time.

 

Another thing on the negative side is that he should challenge opponents with the ball more often. At times it is better that he chooses to stand off and look to block the passing opportunity, but there are moments when you'd want him to challenge for the ball and get closer to the opponent. He is fast enough to nick the ball away from an opponent if the opponent miscontrols the ball even slightly.

 

Good passing and vision

 

Kagawa is also an intelligent player. While he does an occasional dribble, he only does it when he has calculated the situation. You don't really see him trying to get through a wall of 3 players, in such a situation he calmly tries to find a way to pass the ball to someone, even if it means going back.

 

There were at least two occasions in the box where he had a ball in a reasonable shooting position but with lot of opponents ahead of him. Many players would have blocked their brain from receiving any new information and tried to get the shot away, but he calmly understood what was going around him and rather than trying to squeeze the ball through the tiniest crack in the wall of players ahead, he passed the ball to a completely free player who opponents had forgotten about as they all chased down Kagawa.

 

His passing is top quality, especially quick short passing. He is also capable of seeing and executing the more difficult passes. He played a few incredibly well-executed through balls that split the opponent defence and were also perfect for the players chasing them down as they could take the ball in their stride.

 

Kagawa is capable of playing with both his feet, but when dribbling he tends to use his right foot quite excessively. For his size, he also has good heading technique.

 

He might not jump very high, but he is not afraid to play with his head, giving precise flick-on's or heading down the ball perfectly for a team-mate.

 

Kagawa's constant movement and determination to get rid of defenders sees him get a lot of chances in the box and luckily for Dortmund, he is also a good shooter.

 

He doesn't have a rifle on his right, let alone left foot, but he gets his shots on target and doesn't snatch at them.

 

What level do I think he is:

 

I think Kagawa is a top class player who, in this time with top teams lacking quality, could walk into starting line-up of all teams expect the two Spanish giants. But even in there he wouldn't look out-of-place.

 

[Frank.]

Iv said it before and ill say it again..

 

Sir alex >>>>>>>

 

kept united at the top by himself

[Mame Biram Diouf]

It is only going to get worse once Fellaini is back

 

Our #10

 

Cross into the box

 

He heads down onto RVP/Rooney

 

Repeat x82

 

[Agony]

[Gambino]

I'm starting to become a little nervous about what his summer transfer plans are now. I know some guys don't rate the current squad but it bemuses me that Moyes seems to think a team that the Sir Alex built isn't up to David Moyes standards. He's gonna get rid of a load of guys which will only upset the apple cart even more and could cause us long term problems which last further than his time as manager.

 

What is this bullshit about Wesley Sniejder as well? How the hell could we still be in for him.

[Mame Biram Diouf]

He is going to offload any player with a hint of flair

 

Can see RVP, Kagawa, Zaha, Nani, Anderson all going and the Rafael rumours won't go away either

 

On top of that Hernandez will go

 

Its all a big joke

[Jam]

 

 

 

This is what is killing it. Every game I watch this happens...

 

Evans picking up the ball, looking up and seeing no options ahead of him

 

We all know who should be there

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This is what is killing it. Every game I watch this happens...

 

Evans picking up the ball, looking up and seeing no options ahead of him

 

We all know who should be there

 

 

They learnt not to bother, they get bypassed regardless