No, at that point their results would've proved to the Glazers that Fergie was wrong.Interesting take,British, less likely to get stolen by Bayern, Barca or Madrid and someone that shares the same characteristics as Fergie.Well that'd involve actually putting together a short list. From the sounds of things even that wasn't done last year.I'd have more faith in the Glazers and Woodward putting together a shortlist based on a Google search of 'best managers in football' or 'most successful football managers' vs Fergie hand picking another British manager that shares a few personality traits with him.I've asked the question all season, if Moyes is sacked now, who picks his successor?Bayern are run by club legends who aren't shook to ghost managers and criticise under performing players.
Also do you think if Bayern were 3rd let alone 7th in the table the likes of Effenberg,Kahn would say back the manager etc etc?
When I said Bayern were bigger/better ran than Man Utd it was laughed at.
Imagine if Ruminegge,Beckenbauer,Hoeness let Heynckes handpick his own successor it would of been Klinsmann all over again(failure).
United's board is full of lawyers accountants and Glazer's the only "football people" on it are Charlton and Fergie.
I'll say it again who wants Woodward or Brian Glazer picking the new manager?
This is why Fergie was giving the reigns of naming the new man in the first place, the others on the board wouldn't know where to start, Conpare the process to when Fergie said he was retiring in. 02
Then he was asked an oppinion which was then discarded. Now we're meant to believe he was given complete control of who the new manager is?
Lest we forget "Other names were mentioned mainly to rule them out" "David Moyes was the outstanding choice"
Based on him being the "outstanding" choice I will ask again, what was the criteria he had to meet?
With the backlash the Glazers have received from the fans over the years they wouldn't dare go against the pied piper of Manchester, Fergie whose stand by Moyes comment still has the sheep in United’s fanbase believing in Moyes even after this dreadful season.
This time around with a large section of fans disagreeing with Fergie and Moyes' appointment, the drop in share prices and big sponsorship deals hanging in the balance I would expect them to go for someone with a lot of titles on their cv and/or someone the fans are very vocal about wanting e.g. Klopp.
I'd ask what backlash they've received over the years but that'd be a rhetorical question, the green and Gold campaign is still in affect and it's been effective to the level that no difference has been made. The Glazer family don't care what the fans think ( evidently)
You really think a few comments from Fergie lamenting the board over why they appointed Klopp or Jose over Moyes would've led to mass protests or boycotts this season?
I'm talking about during the discussion stage when Fergie had already decided Moyes was one and had half the room on his side. At this stage the fans didn’t even know he was retiring and the Glazers didn’t know any better in terms of how the fans would react to Moyes.
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Got a feeling united will announce some incoming players
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Scudamore saying that if united don't sack moyes it could be the end of the prem league as united almost single handedly keep the money rolling in for them and they need them in the top 2
Unlck fergie
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Probably just to announce Scholes return as a coach
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I'd have more faith in the Glazers and Woodward putting together a shortlist based on a Google search of 'best managers in football' or 'most successful football managers' vs Fergie hand picking another British manager that shares a few personality traits with him.
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Well that'd involve actually putting together a short list. From the sounds of things even that wasn't done last year.
Lest we forget "Other names were mentioned mainly to rule them out" "David Moyes was the outstanding choice"
Based on him being the "outstanding" choice I will ask again, what was the criteria he had to meet?
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Kompressor we all know that Moyes was a shit and nonsensical appointment, you keep asking that question knowing full well there's no logical answer to it.
Apart from giving people like me a laugh by reminding us how spectacularly you fucked up
, I don't see what you're doing by asking it again and again.
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Roy Keane comments yesterday
Roy Keane again says David Moyes needs time (and new signings)
“I don’t know where you start. They need a number of players. Defensively, there are players leaving and I don’t think it helps Nemanja Vidic is going, people are talking about Patrice Evra and obviously Rio and Giggsy are coming to an end. They are lacking a few leaders at the moment and I don’t think they have that type of player in the group. But I think United will be all right and David Moyes will get plenty of time. The man deserves it.”
Roy Keane says the senior players need to do more
“He’s got vast experience, but his staff – Steve Round and Phil Neville – and a couple of senior players, Rio and Giggsy, they have to step up to the plate. One or two of the new players are getting criticism, but it’s up to the players who have been there a few years who know what United are about. We had tough days. We ground out results, we survived a few times, we got lucky breaks. When we won the league in 1996, at Newcastle we could have been five nil down at half-time, yet we ended up winning with Eric Cantona nicking a goal. You need defining moments, but this team will not find it because they don’t have it in the group.”
Roy Keane says United lack passion
“You have got to have that passion. There's no problem losing football matches, but you can lose in a good way. The way United have lost the last few games has been more upsetting than anything else. They have to get certain players in, certain characters to make sure they battle for every minute of every game. There are players leaving. I don't think that helps. When I played at United very rarely did a player leave the club. We're seeing that with Vidic, there's talk about Evra and obviously Rio and Giggsy are coming to an end."
Roy Keane expects more pain on Tuesday
"It's not going to get any easier in next couple of months with a bit more pain to come, against Bayern Munich next Tuesday.”
Roy Keane on why David Moyes deserves time
“I think the game is changing. We see it at all levels. People don't have patience. They get bogged down by a lot of the supporters sometimes. I think United will be all right and David Moyes will get plenty of time. The man deserves it. Sometimes a manager has to go, but with David Moyes, get him to the summer to get some players in and give a chance. Hopefully he'll get a bit of time because anyone who has got any idea about football will know this was the biggest job, to follow Alex Ferguson. The clever people were saying you want to follow the manager after Alex Ferguson. That's why, David Moyes, you've got to give the man time, give him a chance."
Roy Keane - United need to win the big games
“Forget about beating the West Hams, and the Olympiakoses and Crystal Palaces, that’s not what playing for Manchester United is about. It’s about doing it against the big teams. If they play against Bayern like they have in the last two weeks, then they will be in massive, massive trouble. It’s not a lack of effort. I’ve seen a few of United’s games and they have lost a bit of confidence. They are human beings. It is not going to get any easier in the next couple of months and there is more pain to come with Bayern next Tuesday. In defence of David Moyes, he cannot believe how tough it’s been.”
Roy Keane - I am still fond of United and sit in the cheap seats
“It’s easy sitting in the studio or sitting in the fancy seats eating prawn sandwiches. But I am still fond of United. I left on bad terms, particularly with the manager and David Gill, but I want them to do well. I go the games as a fan sometimes. Sir Alex? Yeah, he sits in the nice seats, but I sit in the cheap seats with my young fella. A couple of people know me, but they leave me alone. I enjoy going to games and not to analyse.”
Roy Keane on United just not turning up
“There’s a bit more pain to come. If they play against Bayern Munich like they have in the last two weeks then they’ll be in massive, massive trouble. At the Liverpool game, I thought United would be okay but they never turned up. Against City, I thought they’d be alright and they never turned up — my God they better turn up next Tuesday night.”
Roy Keane on the importance of Manchester United fans supporting
“We’ve been saying for years what great support Man Utd have got and we need to see that over the next few months. It’s very, very easy to support a winning team but they need to support a team that’s struggling. But hopefully they get to the summer, get one or two players in and be ready for next year.
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With the backlash the Glazers have received from the fans over the years they wouldn't dare go against the pied piper of Manchester, Fergie whose stand by Moyes comment still has the sheep in United’s fanbase believing in Moyes even after this dreadful season.
This time around with a large section of fans disagreeing with Fergie and Moyes' appointment, the drop in share prices and big sponsorship deals hanging in the balance I would expect them to go for someone with a lot of titles on their cv and/or someone the fans are very vocal about wanting e.g. Klopp.
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For the same reason the people who think "Moyes is the main problem" keep repeating their stance tbh.
That and I'm legitimately shocked at how far the club has fallen structurally over the years whilst most people were happy to ignore for the most part.
The question is still if Moyes was the outstanding candidate last year who'd be deemed the outstanding candidate now and why?
What confidence is there in the current regime to sort it out.
It's a question yet to be answered and we are getting closer and closer to seeing this scenario played out.
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Captain save-a-Moyes
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Interesting take,
I'd ask what backlash they've received over the years but that'd be a rhetorical question, the green and Gold campaign is still in affect and it's been effective to the level that no difference has been made. The Glazer family don't care what the fans think ( evidently)
You really think a few comments from Fergie lamenting the board over why they appointed Klopp or Jose over Moyes would've led to mass protests or boycotts this season?
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Whilst in more pro Moyes than anyone else on here I wouldn't say I was pro Moyes. Just interested extending the debate to other areas.
Said on the last page, Symptom not disease. If your doctors giving you headache tablets for a brain tumor you'll feel better for a whole and say thank you but your still dying. What you want is the doctor to diagnose the root of the headache and book you in for surgery.
Moyes is merely the headache.
I'm not a fan of headaches. But is prefer one of those to a brain tumor.
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I think it's fairly obvious that Ferguson won't be given carte blanche to pick who he likes next time around, you talk about the driving force for the Glazer's being profits and as a result I think they will no doubt view the current situation as an indication that putting their trust in Ferguson to pick his successor was a huge mistake.
The state of the club is one issue that needs addressing but it was massively compounded by the appointment of a manager who doesn't have the credentials to be the manager of Manchester Untied and whilst there are a few of us who look beyond the team and manager as an indication of where things are going wrong, the vast majority don't.
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