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disgusting
reminds me of when paulo wanchope land fresh and started doing kick ups
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kompressor chats shit
moyes was a bait bring on from fergie like... yo ive eaten well off this your time
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Agony
Raymond Verheijen>>>>>>
Can always count on him to free the realness about Jurassic Park FC.
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Davicious X
Blaming Moyes is only part of the problem. Its not secret you have needed to plan for the next stage of your team. Scholes is gone, Giggs is, well his rating goes down every year, and where the hell are their replacements?
2 most influential players in your team for the last decade have been on their way to retirement and nothing was done about it. Who exactly do you blame for the joke that is the manchester midfield now?
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Agony
Sir Alex "there's no value in the market" Ferguson, Moyes and the board are all to blame but the reality is even if we had 3 or 4 world class CMs in the squad Moyes would only play 2 of them in his favoured 4-4-2 formation and we'd still be dealing with same problem.
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Horatio Caine
we wud play much better but yeah he wud def play 442.....
i cant stand out n out wingers anymore...time to change up
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gattsu
Did Moyes not have an entire summer to find midfield players? united being weak centrally isn't some secret, yet he ends up paying 27 mill for Fellani on deadline day
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Marly Mar
Cleverly is shite
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Lieutenant
A foot shoulda been put in one of them mans chest
Fuck about
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Kompressor
If there's so much shit it should be easy to tear apart everything and make me look stupid.
Until then continue to only focus on the tangibles ignoring the underlying issues that have led to these tangibles. Chicken or the egg situation. Did Manchester United's problems start with Moyes or have we all been questioning tactics, quality of the squad and lack of signings for 3/4 years. Remember Moyes inherited the problems. His fault is he is not good enough to sort or mask these problems in the short term (like Fergie was) this isn't a surprise to anyone, so the question has to be asked why someone who had that ability wasnt employed.
I await your dissection of my points of view over the last few days. Remember this is a forum where you can argue the toss and offer opposing oppinions. Lets not make every room into the Matchday thread, (a place where people neg and make short sharp disparaging comments without actual discussing anything,
Lets up the levels here.
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JOHN DOE
so then you agree he should go then pmsl
so whats all this classy. give him time talk
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Kompressor
Based on what? During his time at Everton was 442 his preferred formation, might it be the case that he is so underwhelmed by the resources in Midfiekd he chosen to ignore the negatives and focus on the positives and has tried to utilise a "strong" attack.
When this squad is his own, hopefully after a few moves in January we will have a better grasp on what his longer terms aims are.
Him going 442 and persisting with Wingers also smacks of him pandering to the crowd. Just like Yesterday, "if I had taken RVP off"'s line.
He wanted 2 midfielders in the summer, I imagine had he got them things would look a little different.
This is a case of understanding Manchester United's way if doing things. Manager highlights the players he wants Chief exec goes out to secure those targets, anyone think the only name in Moyes' list was Fellani? Some would even argue that he wasn't on the list till a few other deals were fucked up. Maybe Gambino can tell us a bit more about this type of thing I reckon based on what he was saying he heard the same rumours for most of last season and then summer and so might have heard rumours as to how certain deals didn't take off.
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Kompressor
Mourinho- same.
Pep was sounded out and wanted no part of it right now.
I said a few weeks ago. People would have a better grasp of things if it was made public what the criteria for appointing him was and what the short/mid/long term aims were/are.
If he's not good enough, first of why was he given the job, what do the suits expect to happen now. Why wasn't he given heavyweight backing in the summer, why wasnt an experienced chief exec appointed to replace the best in the business?
People laugh at Cardiff for appointing someone in a similar role coz he'd never completed or even negotiated a transfer deal. Well They were only following United's lead.
Sacking Moyes now would only serve to paper over cracks. There are underlying issues that need addressing. His may well be a case of the right manager at the wrong time, there are people who are unstable inexperienced and learning the ropes at all levels.
I'll ask again how did it come to pass that the two men who ran a Manchester United as a whole, playing side and business side allowed to leave at the same time. Was this a coincidence?
Read Woodward's interview on this to gain better clarity on what could be a slightly underhand bit of business.
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Benicio del Toney
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25282245
I ain't played FM for a hot minute but even I know statements like this in form like that result in even worse morale.
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Mame Biram Diouf
From reading Peps book
I honestly do not think he was sounding out about it
Good team around him
Good academy
History
Family club
Culture
Some players who could fit his philosophy
I think Bayern just got there first tbh
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Kompressor
You may well be right, but had United and Bayern gone in for him at exactly the same time. (Hypothetically speaking)
Who would he have chosen and why?
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