hiphop Jay-Z Vs. Nas - Album for album

[Natty]

WTT was garbage 

[Yeshua]

Nas is not a better lyricist than Jay Z today

 

i'm a Nas fan but come on son

 

LOL

[Wavant]

LOL

Today?!

LOL

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Song for song Nas wins against Jay (Quality + Quantity) not even close after a while

[Guest Chelsea Jack]

Nas is not a better lyricist than Jay Z today

 

i'm a Nas fan but come on son

 

 

 

Illmatic (1994) >>> Reasonable Doubt (1996)

It Was Written (1996) >>> In My Lifetime, Vol. 1 (1997)

I Am... (1999) >>> Vol. 2... Hard Knock Life (1998)

Vol. 3... Life and Times of S. Carter (1999) >>> Nastradamus (1999)

Stillmatic (2001) >>> The Blueprint (2001)

God's Son (2002) >>> The Blueprint2: The Gift & The Curse (2002)

The Black Album (2003) >>> Street's Disciple (2004)

Hip Hop Is Dead (2006) >>> Kingdom Come (2006)

American Gangster (2007) >>> Untitled (2008)

What do you think?

 

And

 

Life is Good > Blueprint 3/MCHG 

 

 

contradiction?

[Flat Eric]

no

 

lyricism isnt the only thing that makes a good album

[i5_PRODUCER]

I'm NaS thru n thru but I'm more likely to look out 4 a new jay than Nas tbh

 

RARELY Nas goes off nowadays. Last bars i thought were nice was on Rich & Black with Rae

 

 

Still ,NaS' whole discography >> Jay-Z's not by far though

[Flojo]

I'm NaS thru n thru but I'm more likely to look out 4 a new jay than Nas tbh

 

RARELY Nas goes off nowadays. Last bars i thought were nice was on Rich & Black with Rae

 

 

Still ,NaS' whole discography >> Jay-Z's not by far though

 

 

 

A project minded individual, criminal taAnnotatectics

Us black kids born with birth defects, we hyperactive

Mentally sex-crazed, dysfunctional they describe us

They liars, at the end of the day, we f*ckin survivors

I remember watching Scarface the first time

Look at that big house, that Porsche paid for by crime

How could I sell this poison to my peoples in my mind?

They dumb and destroy themselves is how I rationalize

In a bastardized nation, magnum .45 carrying

Where I'm from ain't far from Washington Heights to cop Aryan

A rookie boy, the cookie didn't make no profit

A stranger to the block, I damn near had to make them cop it

It only took a fiend to taste it once to say it's garbage

I brought it back to papi, ain't trying to take no losses

He focuses on my emotionless young dealer face then pauses

He gives me powder, he has faith in Nas' ambitions to distribute coke

Had addictions to gold chains, Mercedes Benz hopes, but I'm again broke

This sh*t ain't cut for me, other dealers, they up their orders

Barely at 62s, they already up to quarters

They out there every day, some true hustlers for you

I'm at it half way, none of my customers are loyal

Picturing piping out the seats of a Pathfinder

Powerful pursuit for p*ssy, cash to flash diamonds

My junior high school class, wish I stayed there

Illegal entrepreneur, I got my grades there

Blaming society, mad, it wasn't made fair

I would be Ivy League if America played fair

Poor excuse, and so I was

Throwing rocks at the pen just for the love

Before the evil, the secret life of G's

You seeing my blurry, triple beam dreams

 

[Yeshua]

When does Jay go off?

[Bruno Di Gradi]

Don't let beats twang you to think Jay is better than Nas

 

Jay-z got a good ear for beats...one thing i would say Nas isn't tooooo great at. Guys lyrically miles ahead of jay

[Mame Biram Diouf]

When does Jay go off?

 

 

I just want a Picasso in my casa, no, my castle

 

 

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[The Infamous]

Lmaooooo

Braaaaaveheaaaart

Braaaaavehearrrrrt

[Flat Eric]

i take back what i said about jay vs nas lyrically today

[Seth Rollins]

Wowser.

 

Reasonable Doubt vs. Illmatic is debatable, Jigga takes that one for me.

 

And go and listen to Ether now. Track is full of sh*t. Takeover and Blueprint crushes Ether. At the time as a teen I was gassed. Now, I appreciate HOV's response a hell of a lot more.

[Seth Rollins]

Illmatic (1994) >>> Reasonable Doubt (1996)

It Was Written (1996) >>> In My Lifetime, Vol. 1 (1997)

I Am... (1999) >>> Vol. 2... Hard Knock Life (1998)

Vol. 3... Life and Times of S. Carter (1999) >>> Nastradamus (1999)

Stillmatic (2001) >>> The Blueprint (2001)

God's Son (2002) >>> The Blueprint2: The Gift & The Curse (2002)

The Black Album (2003) >>> Street's Disciple (2004)

Hip Hop Is Dead (2006) >>> Kingdom Come (2006)

American Gangster (2007) >>> Untitled (2008)

What do you think?

 

Jesus Christ Almighty

[Afroman]

Wowser.

 

Reasonable Doubt vs. Illmatic is debatable, Jigga takes that one for me.

 

And go and listen to Ether now. Track is full of sh*t. Takeover and Blueprint crushes Ether. At the time as a teen I was gassed. Now, I appreciate HOV's response a hell of a lot more.

Well if you have this opinion according to some purists on here you are considered clueless. 

[Thizz]

Only according to Nas fans though.

Always noticed that they believe it's some sort of fact.

Jay fans understand opinions that just about sums up the divide to me.

[Flojo]

Illmatic and RD aren't even close to being in the same bracket.

 

The former was a classic then, is a classic now and always will be whilst the latter only got classic status after 10 years of lobbying. Please believe that if Jay Z hadn't developed into an artist that transcended the hip hop genre Reasonable Doubt wouldn't be seen as anything but a good album of that era.

[Wam]

Considering his peak Jay is a horrible artist nowadays, he fell off much worse then Nas. Funnily I'd check for a new Jay album before Nas though just because his music is more accessible/ easier to listen to and I can just fling it on in the background nod to the beat and focus on what am doing. Nas on the other hand requires attention to appreciate which I do t have time for nowadays.

Looking back now I think Nas's catalogue has stood the test of time better then jiggas his classics I can play today n feel them like back in the day whereas a lot of jays were banging at the time but don't resonate the same way years down the line.

[Wavant]

Illmatic and RD aren't even close to being in the same bracket.

 

The former was a classic then, is a classic now and always will be whilst the latter only got classic status after 10 years of lobbying. Please believe that if Jay Z hadn't developed into an artist that transcended the hip hop genre Reasonable Doubt wouldn't be seen as anything but a good album of that era.

 

Fucking hell, thank you bro! FFS

 

RD is the HH revisionists wet dream. 

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Only according to Nas fans though.

Always noticed that they believe it's some sort of fact.

Jay fans understand opinions that just about sums up the divide to me.

 

Nas is arguably my favourite rapper

 

Of course it is down to opinions

 

Everything is an opinion

 

I personally feel that as an album, track for track, lyric for lyric, 

 

Illmatic >>>> Reasonable Doubt

 

RD doesnt even make my top 5 rap albums

 

illmatic

7 day theory

Only Built for Cuban Linx

Liquid Swords

Infamous

 

Then you got albums like Doe or Die, Lets get Free, Capital Punishment, Ready to Die, Enter the Wu, Aquemini, The Diary, Stillmatic, The Realness, 

 

Thats just off my head, have probably missed out some obvious ones too

 

C/S Jay stans tend to put Jay Z before the music rather than taking the bias out of it

[ag.]

digressin from di topic but this was a big tune

[ag.]

liquid swords is that album>>>>

[Mame Biram Diouf]

 

Voices in my head from choices that I dreaded choosin
Cautions I shoulda took heed, lost in my weed, steady losin
Thug stripes, badges of honor, forces to succeed
Whores on they knees, fuckin with millionaires, killers and thieves
I fuck until there's no feelin where, I bust and I pee
I lusted cars but I suffered and my scars run deep
I stay to myself, one deep, pray to my God cause he
Say when it's hard get on one knee, and ask Thy for forgiveness
Fuck the cash, the ice, the Ferrari's
With two-twenty on the dash when your life ain't right
See niggas smile up in your face and stick a knife in your back
Snakes shake your hand and got his d*ck up in your wife back
Why's it like that? It's life black, this is the game
The way I see it both bitches and niggas, is the same
I trust myself, I can't fuck myself
When hoes leave and no weed I still know me, just myself
Fear is weakness learn from what experience teaches
Beware of leeches, the vampires, my secret's
Never follow, cause most niggas is straight up cowards
Take care of my body's the temple my mind is the power

 

 

One of my favourite Nas verses

[G.Lox]

Wowser.

 

Reasonable Doubt vs. Illmatic is debatable, Jigga takes that one for me.

 

And go and listen to Ether now. Track is full of sh*t. Takeover and Blueprint crushes Ether. At the time as a teen I was gassed. Now, I appreciate HOV's response a hell of a lot more.

!!

 

Considering his peak Jay is a horrible artist nowadays, he fell off much worse then Nas. Funnily I'd check for a new Jay album before Nas though just because his music is more accessible/ easier to listen to and I can just fling it on in the background nod to the beat and focus on what am doing. Nas on the other hand requires attention to appreciate which I do t have time for nowadays.

Looking back now I think Nas's catalogue has stood the test of time better then jiggas his classics I can play today n feel them like back in the day whereas a lot of jays were banging at the time but don't resonate the same way years down the line.

 

Can defo agree with the test of time when talking about certain Jay material, especially after Black Album.

Blueprint 3, Magna Carta and WTT to an extent, me and my boy agreed were good for that point in time but after a year or so doubt it they were spun that much by most.

But still, I see it as him showing he can keep up with whats going on in rap at a time, suttin Nas can't do, and man is 44 years of age….