A Gareth Bale Real Madrid

[O Fenomeno]

Messi has dominated the league that you man claim is the best and the champions league, knock out stages and finals for the past 6-7 years consistently.

Badded up the best defenders in the world over the last 6-7 years consistently

And he's only 27

Comfortably a GOAT

And his international career isn't anywhere near as bad as some make out

Apart from Olympic gold,friendlies,qualifiers.

Gone missing in Copa Americas(even on home soil)

Two horrible world Cups

He has had a very bad International career

He is a GOAT in terms of club football so is Cristiano Ronaldo easily

They are on the same level.

[O Fenomeno]

You cannot put Messi there and leave out Cristiano Ronaldo it makes no sense

I rank Messi higher than Cristi.

Scores at similar rates, assists at better rates, performed similar on international stage.

Is an all round better player for me.

Same level for me

Both club legends

[youcleanwepaint]

secretly portgual should have won euro 2004

[O Fenomeno]

If the kid stops at club level and does nothing on the international scene

Then he is clearly on the same levels

[Agony]

To be the best you have to perform against the best

Now back in the day this had to be done at a world cup because some of best players was playing in the Copa Libertadores and some in the European Cup so the world cup was one opportunity to get everyone together to see a player like South American based player like Pele prove himself against a Bobby Moore for example.

But today all of the best players play in the CL and Europe's top leagues.

[The Infamous]

As I've said before in 15/20 years there is gnna be a kid that scores 300 in 175 games, wins pure trophies and porchy will say he's not messi levels

Being nostalgic is easy

Same way music and films were better in the 90s

lmao trust

[O Fenomeno]

Nobody isn't saying Messi is the best

Because he is alongside Cristiano Ronaldo in this generation.

The greats did it in club level and somehow took their international teams to the next level.

I always use

Maradona

Pele

Ronaldo

Zidane

As prime examples

[The Infamous]

Messi>Zidane

Iniesta>Zidane

imo

[gattsu]

Same team which was narrowly beaten by Spain in two major tournaments yeah?

Same two games he went missing in

They still got beaten

Narrow or not they lost

[Yoshie]

Messi>Zidane

Iniesta>Zidane

imo

 

I agree.

The world cup isn't really levels.

The Champions league teams are much stronger and more gelled so if you're dominating against then then you've done it at the top level.

Just not the top 'stage'

[Seydou]

Shhsheushsh

Vip2>>>

I would get torn apart if I even suggested Iniesta is zidane levels

[Seth Rollins]

Iniesta is probably my favourite player of this generation but please don't let me read he's better than Zidane on here again.

[Heero Yuy]

it’s not outrageous to say he is as good or if not better than Zidane.

[Seth Rollins]

it’s not outrageous to say he is as good or if not better than Zidane.

It is.

 

/

 

Nor do I care for stats.

[O Fenomeno]

Zidane

Euro 2000 + WC 2006

Had a good game against Denmark

Scored the winner against Spain

Was out of this world against Portugal

Locked down against Italy

He was poor in group stages

Had a good game against Spain

Against Brazil put on a clinic(I have never seen someone dominated a big game like this ever)

Scored the winner against Portugal in SF

Scored in another final then got sent off

Iniesta

Hasn't dominated a tournament

2010 he wasn't that good apart from the winner

So Iniesta 2010=Zidane 1998

2012

He had one good game against Italy

Was dominated by Modric

Didnt even see him against France e Portugal

Zidane is a better footballer than Iniesta and could change big games but Iniesta has had a superior career in club level.

It's like Maradona y Messi

[darkman]

He isnt a good winger anymore.

He an inside forward so it would be natural for him to become CF(poacher)

I dont care if he isnt good with his back to goal

No CF in this era is touching him

 

 

 

Since when does being an inside forward make it natural to be a CF

 

How many great CF's have been inside forwards?

 

 

Iniesta is probably my favourite player of this generation but please don't let me read he's better than Zidane on here again.

 

!

 

lol @ comparing that sideman to the great Zidane

[O Fenomeno]

bale getting a lot of criticism for not being able to adapt to new roles and work for the team more especially against the bigger teams

 

justified?

They saying he is getting greedy and lazy becoming like Cristiano 2.0 

 

I haven't noticed this 

 

The Madrid media are being very silly and looking for second season syndrome to happen but it won't

[kerser]

[Lieutenant]

Shocking tek on the volley back

[Mame Biram Diouf]

7 games without a goal or an assist

[The Infamous]

Barca>>>