Lol @ new information, it's mad to think anyone can even question a 12 yr olds rational thinking vs 2 police officers.
Reaching for a gun is not the issue, seeing a kid with a gun who didn't shoot anyone with it in the park is already reason to find out what the kid was doing with the gun in the first place even if it was a real gun...... Not just turning up and asking him to show his hands while pointing guns at him.
Someone said this isn't about race? A university research centre in the U.S. Developed a game of a variety of incidents where the players had to respond to the ' real life' incidents and the players included many ex and serving Feds, the majority of white officers clicked to shoot when the suspect was black, and be more willing not to shoot suspect if white.
If this guy in this video was black he would be dead, and many of you would be blaming him.. Yet when whitey resists he gets to live
All in all it just comes down to terrible policing, they rolled up on the subject at point blank range, giving themselves as little opportunity as possible to assess the situation. If anything, for me that is gross negligence in the duty of your job.
Infact if the subject would've been a hostile with real intent, the officers would've been irresponsibly putting themselves at risk, which is also gross negligence.
What I don't understand this is you see in America's they got whole towns that are black
Even a city like atlanta I couldn't remember seeing more then 5 white people
So why are they not policed by black people ?
Probably a mix of the police being despised in the areas they police and the people in those areas having no trust in them= going into the police not being seen as cool.
nonsense like no snitching.
In a lot of places in the US it's created a lop sided effect like in Ferguson where all the cops bar three? are white and live in the 'good' side of town. So they see going into certain places almost like the US military would see themselves leaving the green zone in Iraq and going into enemy territory. These cops seem in that mindset whenever they leave 'home base'. Everyone not like 'them' is seen as a potential enemy.
It's impersonal policing and white flight and a lack of investment has made it worse. I guarantee if most of these cops actually lived in the areas they patrolled got to know people's names, and built up relationships with local people there would less of these shootings.
All in all it just comes down to terrible policing, they rolled up on the subject at point blank range, giving themselves as little opportunity as possible to assess the situation. If anything, for me that is gross negligence in the duty of your job.
Infact if the subject would've been a hostile with real intent, the officers would've been irresponsibly putting themselves at risk, which is also gross negligence.
All in all it just comes down to terrible policing, they rolled up on the subject at point blank range, giving themselves as little opportunity as possible to assess the situation. If anything, for me that is gross negligence in the duty of your job.
Infact if the subject would've been a hostile with real intent, the officers would've been irresponsibly putting themselves at risk, which is also gross negligence.
Agreed
What I said before doesn't apply to this video
you kind of get the sense they wanted to kill the kid. Nutjob police put themselves in dangerous situations just so they can get an excuse to use their toys.
Cleveland releases full video of Tamir Rice shooting incident
Faith Boone, Nikki Ferrell
8:03 AM, Jan 8, 2015
3:18 PM, Jan 8, 2015
New video shows what happened after Tamir Rice was shot
WEWS
CLEVELAND - Cleveland Police have released the full video of theNovember 22 shooting of 12-year-old Tamir Rice.
The video is the extended version of the recording from the security camera at the Cudell Rec Center. The original shortened version was available for viewing in late November.
A minute and a half after 12 year old Tamir Rice was shot by Cleveland Police officer Timothy Loehmann,
Tamir's family said his 14 year old sister, who was at the park with him, tried to run to her brother's side.
Officers force her to the ground.
After another minute and a half, she's placed in the back of a police car, her family says she was handcuffed.
Tamir was on the ground for four minutes, when an FBI agent, working a case nearby, shows up and begins first aid.Eight minutes after Tamir was shot paramedics arrive and walk up to administer first aid
12 minutes after Tamir was shot, a stretcher is brought out. A minute and a half later Tamir is taken to an ambulance. 14 minutes after he was shot. Tamir was pronounced dead at the hospital 9 hours later at 12:34AM.
Attorney Walter Madison, who represents the family, told newsnet5.com that he is "shocked and outraged" after watching the video. "The indifference is really the most chilling aspect of the video," he added. "I've never seen anything so cruel."
"The indifference to a child lying there fighting for his life and it's compounded by the daughter who's arrested and criminalized by being placed in the back of the cruiser just feet from her brother, helplessly there to watch him die," he said.
"She's there to render aid to her brother, which is more than we can say for any member of the Cleveland Police Department," said Madison. "They completely ignored their caregiving function."
The officers involved in the shooting were identified as Timothy Loehmann and Frank Garmback. The officers responded to a call about a man with a gun, which led to Rice's death. The officers were not told that the 911 caller said the gun, which was later learned to be an airsoft gun, was possibly a fake. Since the incident, theofficers have been placed on administrative leave.
Listen to the 911 call here.
The investigation into the death of Rice is being handed over to the Cuyahoga County Sheriff’s Office, according to the City of Cleveland.
Since the incident, Rice's family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit in Federal court against Loehmann, Garmback and the City of Cleveland.
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What I don't understand this is you see in America's they got whole towns that are black
Even a city like atlanta I couldn't remember seeing more then 5 white people
So why are they not policed by black people ?
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Lol @ new information, it's mad to think anyone can even question a 12 yr olds rational thinking vs 2 police officers.
Reaching for a gun is not the issue, seeing a kid with a gun who didn't shoot anyone with it in the park is already reason to find out what the kid was doing with the gun in the first place even if it was a real gun...... Not just turning up and asking him to show his hands while pointing guns at him.
Someone said this isn't about race? A university research centre in the U.S. Developed a game of a variety of incidents where the players had to respond to the ' real life' incidents and the players included many ex and serving Feds, the majority of white officers clicked to shoot when the suspect was black, and be more willing not to shoot suspect if white.
If this guy in this video was black he would be dead, and many of you would be blaming him.. Yet when whitey resists he gets to live
It May not embed..
http://www.atlnightspots.com/white-guy-fights-white-cops-shots-fired-video/
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All in all it just comes down to terrible policing, they rolled up on the subject at point blank range, giving themselves as little opportunity as possible to assess the situation. If anything, for me that is gross negligence in the duty of your job.
Infact if the subject would've been a hostile with real intent, the officers would've been irresponsibly putting themselves at risk, which is also gross negligence.
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Probably a mix of the police being despised in the areas they police and the people in those areas having no trust in them= going into the police not being seen as cool.
nonsense like no snitching.
In a lot of places in the US it's created a lop sided effect like in Ferguson where all the cops bar three? are white and live in the 'good' side of town. So they see going into certain places almost like the US military would see themselves leaving the green zone in Iraq and going into enemy territory. These cops seem in that mindset whenever they leave 'home base'. Everyone not like 'them' is seen as a potential enemy.
It's impersonal policing and white flight and a lack of investment has made it worse. I guarantee if most of these cops actually lived in the areas they patrolled got to know people's names, and built up relationships with local people there would less of these shootings.
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What I said before doesn't apply to this video
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America is a myth... shambles of a nation
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Niall Ferguson
FUCKING WHITE PEOPLE MAN, ALL THEY DO IS SHOOT US
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you kind of get the sense they wanted to kill the kid. Nutjob police put themselves in dangerous situations just so they can get an excuse to use their toys.
Either that or their IQ's are two digits.
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Bruno Di Gradi
reg…they onsighted him. swear they laced him with bullets as soon as they pulled up…no questioning…nothing.
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first 50 secs
just look at how they are STILL holding the gun and pointing it towards him even though hes on the floor dead
first 10 secs they just roll up and then shoot him
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Niall Ferguson
Smh, he walks towards them with a gun by the looks of things.
What do you want em to do?
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