Police Shoot Dead 12-Year-Old Holding Fake Gun

[Heero Yuy]

Smfh

[Supermalt]

There are plenty of unjustifiable police killings you can talk about if you care to refer to google

From the information we have to hand this is not one of them this kid was 12 not 2

Police tell you "put your hands in the air, or we will shoot".

f*ck are you doing anything BUT putting your hands in the air for?

 

is this still a viable argument now with the footage? 

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Nah someone tell me that ain't it?

Those police rode up to kill.

Smfh

What excuses will the toms use now

[SLEAZE BALL]

Eeesh

I said from the information we have to hand

This is new information

Which means there are about 7 reasons why that was a fucking liberty

[Agony]

Police made a catalogue of errors from not stopping the car from a distance and using the megaphone to the kid to the officer that called the incident in saying the kid was 20.

Reaching for your waist near your pellet gun when a police car rolls up on you was one of the biggest errors in this tragic incident and regardless of his age and whether he panicked or not it will unfortunately be the error that will see the police get away with this.

[Supermalt]

Ohio is also an open carry state, you would think that with such a law police wouldnt roll up so easily like a gun is rare out there

 

Would any sane person just roll up right next to a potential mad gunman? Why didnt they use their mega phone from a distance and assess the situation since no one was around?

 

fucking daemons.

[Vertigo]

Police made a catalogue of errors from not stopping the car from a distance and using the megaphone to the kid to the officer that called the incident in saying the kid was 20.

Reaching for your waist near your pellet gun when a police car rolls up on you was one of the biggest errors in this tragic incident and regardless of his age and whether he panicked or not it will unfortunately be the error that will see the police get away with this.

 

The police and their little helpers are already trying to smear his parents,so the get off scot free playbook is already in full effect.

[Agony]

Tamir Rice: video shows boy, 12, shot 'seconds' after police confronted child

Cleveland police release video of fatal shooting at family’s request which shows boy with pistol-sized gun before police arrive with guns drawn

Tamir Rice

A rosary hangs from a memorial arranged by mourners for 12-year old Tamir Rice at the Cudell Commons Park in Cleveland. Photograph: Angelo Merendino/Corbis

Tom McCarthy in New York

Wednesday 26 November 2014 19.55 GMT

Video released by Cleveland police on Wednesday shows that officers shot a 12-year-old boy in a park on Saturday “one-and-a-half to two seconds” after police drove into the park and confronted the child, deputy chief Edward Tomba said.

Tamir Rice, who had been holding a pellet gun, died of his wounds the next day. He was killed after a 911 caller reported “a guy” in the park was pointing a “probably fake” gun at people.

Police also released audio recordings of the 911 call from the park. One of the officers involved in the shooting, Timothy Loehmann, 26, had joined the police force in March. “Tim was new to the Cleveland division of police,” Tomba said. He was working with Frank Garmack, 46, who had been with the force for six years.

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The low-resolution video, apparently footage from a nearby surveillance camera, shows Rice walking on a sidewalk and pulling a pistol-sized gun, later identified as an airsoft pellet gun missing an orange safety feature meant to signify that it is not a real firearm, out of his pants and playing with it. The boy, wearing a gray sweatshirt and hat, walks in and out of the frame, disappearing for minutes at a time, and at one point appears to pack and throw a snowball.

Rice is shown standing next to a gazebo when a police cruiser suddenly arrives, driving across snow-covered grass to within feet of him. Rice can be seen moving the gun at his waist. Two officers get out of the car, guns drawn, and the boy falls, disappearing behind the cruiser hood.

The video was released at the request of Rice’s family, who had viewed it, police said. “This is not an effort to exonerate anyone,” Tomba said. “This is an obvious tragic event where a young member of our community lost their life.”

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At an afternoon news conference, police also released audio recordings of a 911 call relating to the incident, a subsequent police dispatcher call and a call from officers after the shooting. In none of the calls is Rice identified as a probable minor.

“Shots fired, male down, black male, maybe 20,” said the officer who called in the incident.

The confrontation began with a 911 call from Cudell Commons Park. “Hi, how are you?” the caller asks the 911 operator. He refers to Tamir Rice throughout as “a guy”.

“I’m sitting in the park ... There’s a guy here with a pistol pointing it at everybody,” the caller says. “The guy keeps pulling it in and out of his pants, it’s probably fake but you know what, he’s scaring the sh*t out of people.”

“Is he black or white?” the operator asked three times.

“Black,” says the caller. “He’s sitting on the swings now. But he’s pulling it in and out of his pants and pointing it at people.”

Tomba was asked why the notion that the gun was “probably fake” was never communicated to the responding officers. “We need to get that information to that zone car,” Tomba said. “That is part of our investigation.”

The officers did not use a megaphone to warn the boy to drop the gun as they pulled up, Tomba said. “[Loehmann’s] door was open as they pulled up and he yelled three times as they pulled up,” the deputy chief said.

Tomba was asked why the officers drove so close to the child before getting out. Garmack was the driver. “That’s a legitimate question and we do have a process for that,” Tomba said.

“This case will continue to be investigated,” Tomba said, adding that the findings would be turned over to the county prosecutor.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/26/tamir-rice-video-shows-boy-shot-police-cleveland

It's bait the rookie with only 8 months experience did it

Smh @ "maybe 20"

[Mame Biram Diouf]

 

Getting closer and closer

[Kuffir]

Well here's the surveillance video of the incidence. They didn't even give little man a chance... 

 

 

 

biggest gang in the world

[Mame Biram Diouf]

In the perfect world the shooter would get charged with murder, the other officer and the phone operator who didn't pass on the fake gun information with joint enterprise

[Mame Biram Diouf]

And they still had to shoot to kill yea?

If you can't wound someone from that distance you shouldn't be carrying around a badge and a gun imo

Fuck what you are trained to do, common sense ffs

[VENOM]

Lol @ new information, it's mad to think anyone can even question a 12 yr olds rational thinking vs 2 police officers.

Reaching for a gun is not the issue, seeing a kid with a gun who didn't shoot anyone with it in the park is already reason to find out what the kid was doing with the gun in the first place even if it was a real gun...... Not just turning up and asking him to show his hands while pointing guns at him.

Someone said this isn't about race? A university research centre in the U.S. Developed a game of a variety of incidents where the players had to respond to the ' real life' incidents and the players included many ex and serving Feds, the majority of white officers clicked to shoot when the suspect was black, and be more willing not to shoot suspect if white.

If this guy in this video was black he would be dead, and many of you would be blaming him.. Yet when whitey resists he gets to live

It May not embed..

http://www.atlnightspots.com/white-guy-fights-white-cops-shots-fired-video/

[Heero Yuy]

All in all it just comes down to terrible policing, they rolled up on the subject at point blank range, giving themselves as little opportunity as possible to assess the situation. If anything, for me that is gross negligence in the duty of your job.

 

Infact if the subject would've been a hostile with real intent, the officers would've been irresponsibly putting themselves at risk, which is also gross negligence. 

 

[Vertigo]

What I don't understand this is you see in America's they got whole towns that are black

Even a city like atlanta I couldn't remember seeing more then 5 white people

So why are they not policed by black people ?

 

Probably a mix of the police being despised in the areas they police and the people in those areas having no trust in them= going into the police not being seen as cool.

 

nonsense like no snitching. 

 

In a lot of places in the US it's created a lop sided effect like in Ferguson where all the cops bar three? are white and live in the 'good' side of town. So they see going into certain places almost like the US military would see themselves leaving the green zone in Iraq and going into enemy territory. These cops seem in that mindset whenever they leave 'home base'. Everyone not like 'them' is seen as a potential enemy.

 

It's impersonal policing and white flight and a lack of investment has made it worse. I guarantee if most of these cops actually lived in the areas they patrolled got to know people's names, and built up relationships with local people there would less of these shootings. 

[Yuri]

All in all it just comes down to terrible policing, they rolled up on the subject at point blank range, giving themselves as little opportunity as possible to assess the situation. If anything, for me that is gross negligence in the duty of your job.

Infact if the subject would've been a hostile with real intent, the officers would've been irresponsibly putting themselves at risk, which is also gross negligence.

Agreed

What I said before doesn't apply to this video

[Drift]

America is a myth... shambles of a nation

[Niall Ferguson]

FUCKING WHITE PEOPLE MAN, ALL THEY DO IS SHOOT US

[james00]

 

All in all it just comes down to terrible policing, they rolled up on the subject at point blank range, giving themselves as little opportunity as possible to assess the situation. If anything, for me that is gross negligence in the duty of your job.

Infact if the subject would've been a hostile with real intent, the officers would've been irresponsibly putting themselves at risk, which is also gross negligence.

Agreed

What I said before doesn't apply to this video

 

you kind of get the sense they wanted to kill the kid. Nutjob police put themselves in dangerous situations just so they can get an excuse to use their toys.

 

Either that or their IQ's are two digits.

[Pro]

we don't know the circumstances yet but facts are US cops are very trigger happy

[Agony]

Cleveland releases full video of Tamir Rice shooting incident

Faith Boone, Nikki Ferrell

8:03 AM, Jan 8, 2015

3:18 PM, Jan 8, 2015

New video shows what happened after Tamir Rice was shot

WEWS

CLEVELAND - Cleveland Police have released the full video of theNovember 22 shooting of 12-year-old Tamir Rice.

The video is the extended version of the recording from the security camera at the Cudell Rec Center. The original shortened version was available for viewing in late November.

A minute and a half after 12 year old Tamir Rice was shot by Cleveland Police officer Timothy Loehmann,

Tamir's family said his 14 year old sister, who was at the park with him, tried to run to her brother's side.

Officers force her to the ground.

After another minute and a half, she's placed in the back of a police car, her family says she was handcuffed.

Tamir was on the ground for four minutes, when an FBI agent, working a case nearby, shows up and begins first aid.Eight minutes after Tamir was shot paramedics arrive and walk up to administer first aid

12 minutes after Tamir was shot, a stretcher is brought out. A minute and a half later Tamir is taken to an ambulance. 14 minutes after he was shot. Tamir was pronounced dead at the hospital 9 hours later at 12:34AM.

Attorney Walter Madison, who represents the family, told newsnet5.com that he is "shocked and outraged" after watching the video. "The indifference is really the most chilling aspect of the video," he added. "I've never seen anything so cruel."

"The indifference to a child lying there fighting for his life and it's compounded by the daughter who's arrested and criminalized by being placed in the back of the cruiser just feet from her brother, helplessly there to watch him die," he said. 

"She's there to render aid to her brother, which is more than we can say for any member of the Cleveland Police Department," said Madison. "They completely ignored their caregiving function."

The officers involved in the shooting were identified as Timothy Loehmann and Frank Garmback. The officers responded to a call about a man with a gun, which led to Rice's death. The officers were not told that the 911 caller said the gun, which was later learned to be an airsoft gun, was possibly a fake. Since the incident, theofficers have been placed on administrative leave.

Listen to the 911 call here.

The investigation into the death of Rice is being handed over to the Cuyahoga County Sheriff’s Office, according to the City of Cleveland.

Since the incident, Rice's family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit in Federal court against Loehmann, Garmback and the City of Cleveland.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/cleveland-releases-full-video-of-tamir-rice-shooting-incident

[Bruno Di Gradi]

reg…they onsighted him. swear they laced him with bullets as soon as they pulled up…no questioning…nothing.

[underwriter]

first 50 secs

 

just look at how they are STILL holding the gun and pointing it towards him even though hes on the floor dead

 

first 10 secs they just roll up and then shoot him

[Niall Ferguson]

Smh, he walks towards them with a gun by the looks of things.

 

What do you want em to do?