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[Young £]

lol source?

 

probably from your dad aswell

 

agawa is not good enough to wing it at United... and he is understudy to Rooney for No 10 role

By NEIL ASHTON

PUBLISHED: 23:06, 23 October 2013 | UPDATED: 09:19, 24 October 2013

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Each week a Japanese television crew turn up at Old Trafford in the hope that Shinji Kagawa starts for Manchester United.

Around an hour before kick-off there are usually forlorn looks and sad faces when the team sheets are distributed: No Shinji, no footage to send back home.

On Wednesday night it was different, with genuine delight on their faces when the forgotten man of Manchester United was handed a rare start. Tokyo was put on stand-by for something special.

 

Chance to shine: Shinji Kagawa was handed a rare start - but failed to impress

He was in the team to face Real Sociedad in the Champions League, picked to play on the left in only his fourth start of the season.

The Japan international prefers the role in the hole, the No 10 position behind the main striker, but he will take anything right now.

It was a rare chance to shine in a big Champions League group game; an opportunity to be involved in the action from the very beginning. He comes with pedigree after a stellar career with Borussia Dortmund but he has struggled to adapt to the physical demands of English football.

Fluffing his lines: Kagawa was played out on the wing and did not impress

 

Out wide: Kagawa was played out on the wing

 

Manager David Moyes wants durable athletes; robust players who can tackle first and send the sweet touches towards Wayne Rooney second. That’s his way.

Kagawa’s a luxury item, expendable the moment Moyes convinces himself that this team will need to dig in for a result.

He is committed to a second season at United, determined to force his way into the team and flourish the moment he gets a run in the side. On Saturday, when they play Stoke, he can expect to be among the substitutes again.

This was not his night, not even with excitable TV cameras from home trained on his every touch. He didn’t get nearly enough.

David Moyes is smiling after 1-0 victory over Real Sociedad

 

 Ryan Giggs

Andrei Kanchelskis

Steve Coppell

Wing wizards: Ryan Giggs, Andrei Kanchelskis and Steve Coppell all made their name out wide

 

Kagawa wants to play in Rooney’s position, but he doesn’t have the work-rate of his rival for a place in the team. Rooney was excellent.

Kagawa remains the first reserve for Rooney: on the fringes of a team that is still settling into their rhythm under a new manager.

The fixture had rotation written all over it; a night for the squad players to get a run-out against this struggling Sociedad side.

 

Out of position: Kagawa prefers to play in the No 10 role, but Wayne Rooney is first choice the

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They have a long tradition of top-class wingers at United, something that is stitched into the heritage of the club.

George Best, Steve Coppell, Andrei Kanchelskis and Ryan Giggs are among some of the greatest names in United history to race down either wing at Old Trafford. Kagawa is nowhere near their class.

He wasn’t involved nearly enough in United’s good moves and when he had the chance to score, he fluffed his lines.

In top form: Wayne Rooney was involved all over the pitch

 

The No 10 was everywhere: Rooney's heat map shows his touches of the ball and illustrates a high work-rate

 

There was a moment of brilliance in the second half when he managed to pull off Zinedine Zidane’s ‘roulette’ trick in the centre of the pitch.

It was a magical move, ending only when Claudio Bravo saved well from Rooney’s drive.

Sadly for Kagawa, he’s still out of focus.

 

 

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its actually sad, too many agendas for him to succeed.. I hope he gets his head down and makes it, but part of me genuinely wants him to leave, comeback and score a hat trick at Old Trafford and celebrate in front of Moyes

[Young £]

 

just for you Darkman

[Yoshie]

Read the first few lines, won't be reading the rest.

Glad the comments disagree.

[darkman]

Why did you post that? I watched the whole game last night

[Young £]

Why did you post that? I watched the whole game last night

 

lol you did!?

[Lieutenant]

Darkman is a very underrated troll

[darkman]

The whole Arsenal room hated me years cos they didn't like truth I was talking. Truth hurts as they say

 

I proved myself right then and I'm right now. You'll soon wake up

[darkman]

Arsenal team/manager not being good enough to win anything

[darkman]

The problems with Manchester Utd:

 

Defense:

RB - Rafeal - Has a lot of heart and determination but lacks as a defender

CB - Rio is on his last legs and Vidic looks on the wane too. Phil Jones is too clumsy to be a top CB and not sure Evans will ever be top class

LB - Evra - Past his best and probably leaving at then end of the season. Buttner is really bad

 

Midfield:

Valencia-  Reliable performer but lacks in ability

Nani - Lots of ability but not consistent and doesn't work hard enough

Young - Not good enough to play for Man U

Cleverley - See Young

Fellani - See Young

Anderson - See Young

Giggs - 39 Years old

Carrick - Good player but not exceptional. Not brave or mobile enough. Found out against the top teams

Kagawa - Unproven

 

Strikers:

Rooney - Still not at his best form but getting there

Van Persie - Supremely talented and great finisher but doesn't play the roll of a CF well

Hernadez - Appalling outside the box

 

To be frank, the team needs a complete overhaul.

 

 

 

[stacksbranning]

Hes got my  backing for now .

If we dont win at stoke then  that will change of course but for now ill be positive .

Only 5 points behind city and spuds and 8 behind le arse .

I know for a fact that  spuds and le arse will drop  points somewhere down the line .

[Thizz]

"I keep looking out for the Moyes's job under threat headlines.  11 points in 8 games is outrageous. 

Fulham have a point less and are 14th.


Especially when 6 of those points came from Sunderland and Palace who have just 4 points* between them and are clearly the Derby Countys of this season.  This season has 34 games plus 12 free points,
Ignoring the pushovers:

Arsenal have 16 from 7 games
Chelsea have 17 from 8
City   have 16 from 8
United have 5 from 6


United are in serious trouble.  Moyes too I reckon.

*1 point if you ignore the game between them."

 

Perspective.

[Kompressor]

If Moyes gets a champions league place his job is safe,

It could even be the case that if he gets close to it he'll be safe.,

The question was asked before, if Moyes wasn't chosen who would've been, it's even less clear who's be brought in to replace him.

The 3/4 year cycle will be completed and if standards aren't what they should be and serious progress not on the horizon a new man will be brought Without the overbearing spectre of Fergie.

[JOHN DOE]

i want klopp

[Mame Biram Diouf]

i wanted/want klopp

 

He just has that eccentric and angry Fergie persona

 

If I put in a bad performance send me to Moyes over Klopp any day

 

Guy looks fucking nuts

[stacksbranning]

Ill settle for 4th place this season .

Anything else he should and probably would get the sack .

 

@ Thizzle lets put things into perspective  we  have played chelsea,liverpool and city . Apart from us  you haven't played anyone credible,same goes for  arsenal,liverpool and city

[Thizz]

@ Thizzle lets put things into perspective  we  have played chelsea,liverpool and city . Apart from us  you haven't played anyone credible,same goes for  arsenal,liverpool and city

 

We're calm buddy.

[TF S4DK]

Darkman is very under rated. Trolls rooms at a time when fans are at their lowest ebb

[Kompressor]

Well Champions league qualification is in the budgets/forecast so if it wasn't achieved it could be squeaky bum time.

The current regime want somebody they can handle. Not sure the crazy man at Dortmund fits that bill entirely.

[Kompressor]

Great news about the new kit deal, even more money to go towards paying of the debt and not signing players.

[darkman]

What did you use to buy Fellani? I assumed it was money

[Zizouz]

now you're being deliberately obtuse

 

according to this their net transfer spend since 09/10's been round about 67 mil - that's an average of 13mil a season

 

take into account all that extra TV money from this year as well

 

top of the page you assessed United as not good enough, no?

 

To be frank, the team needs a complete overhaul.

 

 

[darkman]

I think the team needs an overhaul but I don't think the lack of quality is purely down to funds

 

You paid 15 million for a teenager who's only proved himself in the Championship

 

You bid 30 odd million for Hazard, Herrera and Fabregas in recent times only to be rejected

 

If rumours are to be believed you matched Real's fee for Bale too

 

Money is there